New NCL Casino Rules

[coffeebean]

41 minutes ago, chipmaster said:

 

I guess all those people who handle our food it's a waste, sorry that is not correct.

I would feel much better if food handlers were trained in gloves protocol like health care workers. Wearing contaminated gloves is worse because the wearer does not think of the gloves as being contaminated when they actually are. Washing hands is more sanitary.

 

Health care professionals, change gloves every single time they come in contact with a new patient. The gloves protect the wearer but the amount of times changing gloves is pretty much constant. And.....when the gloves come off, the hands must be washed......every single time. I would only hope food preparers are trained like health care professionals. The general public is not.

[chipmaster]

1 hour ago, coffeebean said:

I would feel much better if food handlers were trained in gloves protocol like health care workers. Wearing contaminated gloves is worse because the wearer does not think of the gloves as being contaminated when they actually are. Washing hands is more sanitary.

 

Health care professionals, change gloves every single time they come in contact with a new patient. The gloves protect the wearer but the amount of times changing gloves is pretty much constant. And.....when the gloves come off, the hands must be washed......every single time. I would only hope food preparers are trained like health care professionals. The general public is not.

 

Health care and food prep are different risk/education and complexity and impact.    Not saying what you put in your mouth isn't as important as people who might put something directly into your body, but those difference directly highlight the difference in risk and also pay/skill level.  To expect the same is to be a bit missing in expectation on what you expect for people.

[Casino Comp Chick]

7 hours ago, coffeebean said:

You said you would gamble where ever smoking was allowed. So, I would guess you would quit gambling if all casinos in the entire world were non smoking. Right?

Right!

Asked and answered already but yes that is correct. 
Online gambling ensures I will always have a place to gamble & smoke.

 

[Casino Comp Chick]

8 hours ago, coffeebean said:

I quit smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day for 35 years and did it cold turkey. The reason I quit? I was tired of having to go somewhere else to smoke a cigarette and what you said (in bold text) is the reason I quit. No more addiction and I'm a happy camper now since 2005.

I would still pick the 2.5 hour drive over the local as the local falls under NY Lottery rules. 

[Lou33]

We just returned from a trip to Nevada.  It was very disappointing to visit a casino and see so many people who had total disregard for mask requirements and social distancing.  A week ago, Nevada (finally) mandated that you must wear a mask in any public building, including casinos.  But I found that 10% of the patrons refused to wear a mask.  And for the people who did, 30% of those wore their mask down around their neck.  The casino staff is reluctant to confront them.  The hotel was at first selling only 50% of their rooms, but when we checked in, the clerk admitted that they are now selling every room.  I saw no attempt to limit or distance people on the casino floor.  The worst part was the elevators.  They have signs that the limit is 3 people at a time.   But we had more people just crowd on before the door closed and one guy didn't wear a mask.  When I asked why he couldn't do his part to help with the pandemic he just stood there with a dumb look on his face. 

 

When we go to stores and other public places, people are very respectful and compliant but it is different in the casinos.  We plan to get COVID tests this week just in case.  

[Oceangal711]

On 5/28/2020 at 12:08 AM, fastpitchdad said:

 

But that is the point. Smokers will still gamble just like they still went to bars and drank and the net effect was an overall increase in business. If I owned a Casino and the rule was that Casino's would not allow smoking then I would be very confident my business would increase. 

Some will but some won't. I have never gambled in my home state of NY no smoking means I won't spend my money there. As far as the bars here are concerned when they implemented no smoking many went to private clubs as to skirt the rules. You pay a small membership dues for the privilege of  drinking and smoking in peace.

[Oceangal711]

On 5/28/2020 at 4:37 AM, Casino Comp Chick said:

Not true. I live 15-20 minutes from a non smoking casino that I do not go to. I would rather drive 2.5 hours and go to a casino I can smoke in. 
Same thing with restaurants, if they do not have an outdoor deck I can smoke on, I do not go there either.

Don't make blanket assumptions due to your own bias as people who assume............

You must be my neighbor. Resorts world. Never stepped foot in the place. Actually never went to any NY casino because of the smoking laws.

[Oceangal711]

On 5/29/2020 at 1:13 PM, fastpitchdad said:

 

So if every Casino was non-smoking you would quit gambling? 

Casinos aren't the only place to gamble. Our Knights of Columbus halls have slot machines and poker nights. Of course if you went in and asked them they would deny it. I'm sure if all casinos were smoke free they would be cheering.

[BirdTravels]

The casinos and the ship  may enforce their mask requirements, but social distancing is non existent. Which means you have neighbors (sitting/standing around you)  who may be asymptomatic. 

From the CDC:

 

You have a mask and your asymptomatic COVID neighbor has a mask - 6% probability of transmission. That’s right, even with masks enforced, being around a COVID person runs a risk of you catching the virus. 

 

You have a mask and your asymptomatic COVID neighbor without a mask worn constantly or not fitted well - 33% probability of transmission 

 

You have a have a lot of time without a mask/lose mask and your asymptomatic COVID Neighbor without a mask worn constantly/lose mask - 67% probability of transmission 

[graphicguy]

15 hours ago, Lou33 said:

We just returned from a trip to Nevada.  It was very disappointing to visit a casino and see so many people who had total disregard for mask requirements and social distancing.  A week ago, Nevada (finally) mandated that you must wear a mask in any public building, including casinos.  But I found that 10% of the patrons refused to wear a mask.  And for the people who did, 30% of those wore their mask down around their neck.  The casino staff is reluctant to confront them.  The hotel was at first selling only 50% of their rooms, but when we checked in, the clerk admitted that they are now selling every room.  I saw no attempt to limit or distance people on the casino floor.  The worst part was the elevators.  They have signs that the limit is 3 people at a time.   But we had more people just crowd on before the door closed and one guy didn't wear a mask.  When I asked why he couldn't do his part to help with the pandemic he just stood there with a dumb look on his face. 

 

When we go to stores and other public places, people are very respectful and compliant but it is different in the casinos.  We plan to get COVID tests this week just in case.  

Curious...which casino did you stay.  A friend of mine just returned from a wedding anniversary where they stayed on the strip.  He said they had every other slot closed and were implementing their mask rules.  This was at Bellagio.

[Hearthosesteeldrumsplayin]

45 minutes ago, graphicguy said:

Curious...which casino did you stay.  A friend of mine just returned from a wedding anniversary where they stayed on the strip.  He said they had every other slot closed and were implementing their mask rules.  This was at Bellagio.

At Cherokee, NC, they are adamant about masks.  I heard an employee tell a patron who was wearing theirs around their mouth, but not covering their nose to cover both or they would be asked to leave.  Temps taken when you enter.  Lots of cleaning going on.  The craps tables had every other space closed off, and they wiped down between guests, as well as periodically during play.  Elevators limited, people didn't crowd on, but I did see groups enter that would exceed the recommendation by 1 person.  Overall, I thought they were doing a good job.....but of course, there is so much we don't yet know.

[Sand and Seas]

We stayed at Paris Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago.  We felt safer there than when we visit some of our local businesses.   Our room had a sticker over the door saying it had been sanitized and no one else had entered.   There was not regular house-keeping but we did grab some extra towels from a housekeeper in the hall one day. 

 

The slot machines were space out from each other.  No one crowded in closer to us.  Many machines had been moved to form 4 sided squares so that they could each be used without being close to the next one.  (A ship wouldn't have room for that spacing without removing many machines😟)

 

Paris also had large buckets of sanitizer wipes so you could ensure your machine and chair were clean before you started to play.  Hand-sanitizer dispensers (like on ships) were everywhere.   They also had employees everywhere with buffet-type tongs to hand you a mask if you needed one.   The employees seemed to be keeping a good eye on those walking in off the strip.    A day or so after we left the Governor of Nevada mandated mask wearing, but Paris & CET properties were mandating before that.  Temperatures were checked when you went to check-in area, but I didn't notice the scanners anywhere else.   

[Lou33]

5 hours ago, graphicguy said:

Curious...which casino did you stay.  A friend of mine just returned from a wedding anniversary where they stayed on the strip.  He said they had every other slot closed and were implementing their mask rules.  This was at Bellagio.

 

We stayed at Atlantis, Reno, and we also went to Harrah's in Lake Tahoe.  Atlantis deactivated only a few machines, only at the bars.  Harrah's was better.  For the most part, they left social distancing to the patrons to sort out.  Most were wearing masks, but many had their mask down at their neck.  So their neck is protected from Coronavirus.  The casino staff told me that they are not limiting the number of patrons to the casino.  So crowds would gather, and it was difficult to avoid.  The worst problem was in the elevators.

[tombec1]

On 7/4/2020 at 6:47 PM, Lou33 said:

We just returned from a trip to Nevada.  It was very disappointing to visit a casino and see so many people who had total disregard for mask requirements and social distancing.

 

I just returned from Las Vegas on Friday night.   I stayed at Caesars Palace,  in the Palace towers.  Everywhere we went inside of Caesars , people wore masks - check in area (they took our temps too), casino floor, food court, on the way to the pool, etc.   They were limiting folks to 4 people in an elevator, and there were marks on each corner for people to stand.  Hand sanitizer stations were everywhere too.   I saw security staff 'reminding' people to put on their masks if they had them down.

 

It's kind of hard to 'socially distance' while walking through a casino , but folks were staggering slots and seats at the table games.

 

We ate at Hells Kitchen one night, and everyone was wearing masks unless they were eating.  All staff wore masks.

We also  hit several places on the strip for drinks, and everyone was wearing masks in the drinking establishments, and most were wearing them on the strip.

Edited July 6, 2020 by tombec1

[BirdTravels]

8 hours ago, Sand and Seas said:

We stayed at Paris Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago.  We felt safer there than when we visit some of our local businesses.   Our room had a sticker over the door saying it had been sanitized and no one else had entered.   There was not regular house-keeping but we did grab some extra towels from a housekeeper in the hall one day. 

Vegas has stepped up their mask policy since opening. We were there on re-opening weekend at Caesars and mask compliance was 25% or less with no social distancing. The non-housekeeping was the same then.

 

We were in Atlantic City for reopening this weekend and there was near 100% mask compliance. The current rules allow no food or drink on the casino floor, and no smoking (no reason to lower your  mask). And no indoor dining or bars. There was still little to no social distancing like Vegas, but like the MGM hotels in Vegas, there were lots of plexiglass separators at tables.  ACY lacked the buckets of wipes which we missed. Contrary to reports, no temperature checks.  

 

(BTW: Reopening weekends = enforced low occupancy levels, rooms have been cleaned and unoccupied for several months, dealers and staff have not been exposed to a wide population with less chance of infection, the highest compliance to sanitation rules).

[graphicguy]

I've always felt that RENO was the step child of Vegas.  Unfortunate that they aren't taking the same steps that Vegas has implemented.

[Viajera7]

On 7/5/2020 at 2:48 PM, Lou33 said:

 

On 7/5/2020 at 2:48 PM, Lou33 said:

 

We stayed at Atlantis, Reno, and we also went to Harrah's in Lake Tahoe.  Atlantis deactivated only a few machines, only at the bars.  Harrah's was better.  For the most part, they left social distancing to the patrons to sort out.  Most were wearing masks, but many had their mask down at their neck.  So their neck is protected from Coronavirus.  The casino staff told me that they are not limiting the number of patrons to the casino.  So crowds would gather, and it was difficult to avoid.  The worst problem was in the elevators.

Was this in June? I booked an offer that I received from Lake Tahoe today. The agent assured me that the casino and hotel are requiring guests to wear a face mask and security is telling people to wear one to enter the casino.

[Lou33]

1 hour ago, Viajera7 said:

 

Was this in June? I booked an offer that I received from Lake Tahoe today. The agent assured me that the casino and hotel are requiring guests to wear a face mask and security is telling people to wear one to enter the casino.

 

We were at Harrah's LT last week.  Since June 26 there has been a requirement in Nevada that masks must be worn inside any building, including casinos (about time).  We saw about 90% wearing masks,  but many who wore a mask pulled them down to their neck.  I didn't see anybody checking for masks when people entered the casino.  They took temperature only for people checking into the hotel, not for locals visiting the casino.  I didn't see anybody walking around trying to enforce the mask requirement and if they were, they were not doing a good job.  Harrahs has every other machine disabled. 

[Viajera7]

Thanks for the information. I’ll do the best I can to protect myself and others.

[mamkmm2]

On 5/28/2020 at 3:07 AM, Lou33 said:

 

And that's exactly why it's so important for "everybody" to wear a mask in a closed, crowded environment such as a casino.  They can wipe down the machines, sanitize surfaces all that they want.  But if this is primarily spread through droplets, then all it takes is one selfish person, who doesn't even know that they're infected, to spread it to hundreds in the matter of a few hours.  

Read the disclaimer on masks less than an unvented N95. Every single one of them state that they do not stop airborne bacteria and virus. This includes the surgical mask varieties that in reality only designed for Single use in sterile environments. Those masks are more permeable than you think and must be fitted properly. Once you touch the outside of them they are contaminated. If you don’t put them on and take them off the correct way and then dispose of them properly you’ve obliterated the little protection they did offer. 

[DinaS]

On 5/27/2020 at 9:06 PM, MrMike45 said:

Banning smoking would also severely cut into profits for an industry that has lost a ton of money over the past 2 months. 
 

Gambling (slots in particular) + drinking + smoking all go hand in hand at a casino 

 

whether you’re a smoker or not, arguing that point is silly if you’ve ever been in a casino 

 

Some cruise lines have banned smoking in casinos.  Celebrity still has full casinos - even without smoking.  

[Lou33]

3 hours ago, mamkmm2 said:

Read the disclaimer on masks less than an unvented N95. Every single one of them state that they do not stop airborne bacteria and virus. This includes the surgical mask varieties that in reality only designed for Single use in sterile environments. Those masks are more permeable than you think and must be fitted properly. Once you touch the outside of them they are contaminated. If you don’t put them on and take them off the correct way and then dispose of them properly you’ve obliterated the little protection they did offer. 

 

Masks are not very good at protecting the wearer from another person's droplets and airborne.  But they are excellent at containing droplets and stopping the wearer from spreading a virus to others.  That's why it's important that "everybody" should wear a mask inside a building.  

[MoCruiseFan]

On ‎5‎/‎27‎/‎2020 at 5:31 PM, MsTabbyKats said:

Yeah...but that's all cosmetic.  Covid is airborne and the virus doesn't live long on surfaces.  To be safe, you need to distance and wear masks.

 

Maybe they'll put the slots on the TV in the cabin!

 

 

Masks do absolutely NOTHING to keep you from getting the virus.  They MIGHT keep you from giving it to someone else though, but that is even questionable.

[MoCruiseFan]

On ‎7‎/‎5‎/‎2020 at 9:03 AM, BirdTravels said:

The casinos and the ship  may enforce their mask requirements, but social distancing is non existent. Which means you have neighbors (sitting/standing around you)  who may be asymptomatic. 

From the CDC:

 

You have a mask and your asymptomatic COVID neighbor has a mask - 6% probability of transmission. That’s right, even with masks enforced, being around a COVID person runs a risk of you catching the virus. 

 

You have a mask and your asymptomatic COVID neighbor without a mask worn constantly or not fitted well - 33% probability of transmission 

 

You have a have a lot of time without a mask/lose mask and your asymptomatic COVID Neighbor without a mask worn constantly/lose mask - 67% probability of transmission 

 

 

43.29% of statistics are made up.

[Lou33]

1 hour ago, MoCruiseFan said:

Masks do absolutely NOTHING to keep you from getting the virus.  They MIGHT keep you from giving it to someone else though, but that is even questionable.

 

Of course a mask will help you from giving a virus to somebody else.  It catches almost all droplets.  

 

In Asia, everybody wears a mask and nobody needs to ask them to do it.  The virus is under control there.  We need to do what works.