Radiioman46 Posted June 28, 2020 #51 Share Posted June 28, 2020 How about Carnival is looking out for their crew members, and helping them to recover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick93 Posted June 28, 2020 #52 Share Posted June 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Radiioman46 said: How about Carnival is looking out for their crew members, and helping them to recover? Have you been watching them trying to get their staff home?? I hope these gratuities help them better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted June 28, 2020 #53 Share Posted June 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Stick93 said: Have you been watching them trying to get their staff home?? I hope these gratuities help them better than that. If they wish to help the crew by increasing gratuities, they will not need to jump through any obstacles put in their path by the CDC. So, yes, I am aware of the problems getting crew home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young_ens Posted June 28, 2020 #54 Share Posted June 28, 2020 @Organized Chaos. I didn't know cruise lines opened their books to the web detailing everything. I'll look around later. Fact of the matter still is ships will likely not sail full and so far 1\2 year of bookings (don't know the proportion of FCCs to refunds) that need to rebook in the next year and a half to 2 years and still no idea when things may start up. Maybe there is a surge of cash paying people. I know I am not going to book even though I love the vacation. Way too much uncertaintyn in when sailing will happen (keeps getting pushed), which ports may open (same, pushed), air travel, if the company will still be in business, Florida is fairly messed up now, where I usually depart from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organized Chaos Posted June 28, 2020 #55 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I didn't say they "open their books" to the web. They don't have to for this information to be available to the web-surfing public. Similarly, there's data out there to show, for example, hotel bookings going up & down during this period. Are they opening their books to the public? As I said, there's a lot of people who come on here to accuse Carnival of all kinds of wrongdoings. Unfortunately, no matter how much information you throw at them to show otherwise, they're not going to listen or believe it. They have a narrative to push and they're not going to let things like facts & truth get in the way of that. Some people are looking for Carnival to do bad things. So much so, that they'll just make stuff up and refuse to listen to reason. It's getting ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organized Chaos Posted June 28, 2020 #56 Share Posted June 28, 2020 9 hours ago, Radiioman46 said: How about Carnival is looking out for their crew members, and helping them to recover? I think that would be a legitimate reason to raise them. But if Carnival felt like they wanted to help their crew members recover financially, I also believe that they should just raise their contract wages instead of raising daily tips. Because that would amount to relying on passengers to do it for them. When the OP asked this question, some of us related a (hypothetical) increase in gratuities to lost revenue over the last few months. That's what I thought of, but only because the forum has been filled with accusations against Carnival that they're cheating people out of more money to help recover. So because of all that kind of talk going around, when someone asks if they'll raise gratuities, I wonder if it's another jab at Carnival as a means to recover lost revenue. Then I realized, gratuities go to the crew, not to Carnival. It doesn't help their bottom line. So I was just looking for a little clarification and elaboration on the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ontheweb Posted June 28, 2020 #57 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Organized Chaos said: I think that would be a legitimate reason to raise them. But if Carnival felt like they wanted to help their crew members recover financially, I also believe that they should just raise their contract wages instead of raising daily tips. Because that would amount to relying on passengers to do it for them. When the OP asked this question, some of us related a (hypothetical) increase in gratuities to lost revenue over the last few months. That's what I thought of, but only because the forum has been filled with accusations against Carnival that they're cheating people out of more money to help recover. So because of all that kind of talk going around, when someone asks if they'll raise gratuities, I wonder if it's another jab at Carnival as a means to recover lost revenue. Then I realized, gratuities go to the crew, not to Carnival. It doesn't help their bottom line. So I was just looking for a little clarification and elaboration on the question. And the folks who see wrongdoing whenever Carnival (or for that matter any of the other cruise lines) do something, they will immediately say (and probably quite vociferously) that the crew is not really getting the extra tips. They will accuse the cruise lines of pocketing the increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stick93 Posted June 28, 2020 #58 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I think this will be a legitimate question but I am sure a disagreeable one - It’s possible if they raise gratuities people will could take them off. In truth we all know when they post gratuities the lines to the front desk are the longest. You may not agree but there has to be is a relationship to the level gratuities are to the number of people who remove them?? They can raise them to whatever they like but they have to know some and maybe even a higher percentage may remove them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterbean1000 Posted June 28, 2020 #59 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Radiioman46 said: How about Carnival is looking out for their crew members, and helping them to recover? I work for a major high end department store. We were furloughed for a couple months. The company has an emergency fund, funded by employees. Yearly, when a major clearing house for charities comes around, we have the option to have money go to this middle man or donate to an employee relief fund. The majority of employees donate to the fund. All the furloughed employees got a piece of this fund. I would like to think Carnival is taking care of their employees similarly. Edited June 28, 2020 by Butterbean1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaAnna Posted June 29, 2020 #60 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) On 6/26/2020 at 3:52 PM, shof515 said: some restaurants is charging people a covid-19 surcharge on their bill My dentist's office charged me an extra $10 Covid fee on a recent visit. Edited June 29, 2020 by BananaAnna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviela Posted June 29, 2020 #61 Share Posted June 29, 2020 On 6/27/2020 at 8:28 PM, Organized Chaos said: So until someone can prove otherwise, none of it helps Carnival recover lost revenue. So why would they raise them? The reason they might raise them is to retain crew. If a crew member can earn more from another employer, they might follow the money. Carnival like many travel and leisure companies gives 100% of gratuities to the crew. they divide it so even non-guest facing crew get something. Carnival also pays the points charged by credit card companies so the crew gets 100% of tips paid by credit/debit card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skridge Posted June 29, 2020 #62 Share Posted June 29, 2020 On 6/27/2020 at 11:00 PM, Organized Chaos said: Why is it so hard to believe demand is up? Why's it so hard to believe that people are ready to get back to cruising? After 3 1/2 months, plus at least 3 more to go, don't you think cruisers are itching to get back to it? Do a simple web search, it's no secret. Just because a small percentage of people on CC come here day after day to push a bleak narrative that no one wants to cruise, that doesn't make it true. Despite their negativity, there have been plenty of CC users who say they're ready. And CC is only a small sampling of cruisers overall. If you're going to accuse them of lying about it, then feel free to elaborate. You can't stop can you. You can't help yourself taking swipes at people that don't share your opinion. There have been plenty of people on here who have taken the more realistic and correct opinion. Almost every time you post on here you take a virtual swing at them. SMH. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsfan58 Posted June 29, 2020 #63 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Initially I would not think that Carnival would raise them. This action would appear to be "holding the passengers" accountable for their financial and Covid woes. Maybe later on that action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess1963 Posted June 29, 2020 #64 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I think they would that's one reason I went ahead and are pre paying my tips ahead of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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