Class action lawsuit filed against HAL alleges COVID negligence

[cruisemom42]

31 minutes ago, Lois R said:

Hi, thanks for the reply and posting the rest of what he said.....he had another thing to say today and it does not

look good at all.  Right now we are increasing by 40,000 cases per day.  He said if we don't do more NOW,  he thinks

it will increase to 100,000 per day.😲

 

It is certainly a bleak outlook if we all don't take it seriously (and put health above politics).

[ilikeanswers]

6 hours ago, mammajamma2013 said:

Please don't think I'm being argumentative, I agree with all you've said. I have to wonder, though, shouldn't individuals also bear some responsibility for putting themselves in that situation? They had they same information available to them that the cruise lines did.

 

I did read about an Argentinean couple who said they contacted the cruise line asking if it is safe to travel. The said the person they talked to told them because it was a South American cruise they had nothing to worry about. Whenever anyone travels in some type of escorted travel you rely on what you perceive is the expertise of that who is escorting you. It lowers your sense of risk because you believe there is system up to minimise any chance of harm. They world assume HAL knows more than the average passenger about the COVID19 situation since that is their livelihood. It is easy to say the passengers should have known better but if they are being told by those who they think should be in the know that everything is fine then naturally the passengers would think HAL wouldn't run this cruise if they didn't think it was safe. 

[K32682]

18 hours ago, mammajamma2013 said:

Please don't think I'm being argumentative, I agree with all you've said. I have to wonder, though, shouldn't individuals also bear some responsibility for putting themselves in that situation? They had they same information available to them that the cruise lines did.

 

The cruise line would and should have had more information about the pandemic than a passenger just as the cruise line knows more about the anticipated sea conditions, passport requirements and ship operations than I would. 

 

Secondly, the cruise lines are reported to have misled passengers about the seriousness of the virus and were unwilling to refund fares for people on early March bookings who expressed concerns thereby creating a significant financial incentive not to cancel.

 

[ed01106]

Carnival faced almost no liability for their negligence in Triumph, this will be similar. 

[K32682]

37 minutes ago, ed01106 said:

Carnival faced almost no liability for their negligence in Triumph, this will be similar. 

 

Hardly comparable situations.  No one died.  Nevertheless, Carnival was ordered to pay damages although they were modest.  Courts regard negligence leading to illness and death more seriously than a few days of inconvenience. 

[ldubs]

On 6/30/2020 at 10:49 AM, cruisemom42 said:

 

Also, keep in mind that the cruise lines were actively reassuring people that they would be fine, that enhanced health screenings would be done prior to boarding (they weren't), and so on...

 

 

I don't want to be disbarred as a would be lawyer, but to me this seems very significant.  An intentionally false warranty about safety is not going to go over very well.   

 

(Thank you very much.  My standard rate is $240/hour) 😄

Edited July 2, 2020 by ldubs