CL/SL future when cruising returns.

[island lady]

2 minutes ago, molly361 said:

And not looking good for our December Harmony one either

 

Yeah...I am feeling numb from all these hopes .....that are then dashed.  😞  

 

Spending my extra time buying interesting masks on Amazon...getting quite a collection together 😉 .  Figure this stuff is sure not going away any time soon. 😕

[davekathy]

1 hour ago, Lionesss said:

If you want I will play the flutophone for the band.....

Can you play Aqualung on it?  

[island lady]

5 minutes ago, yogimax said:

OH MY!!!  Yes, we were on that cruise... Majesty of the Seas, departing May 29th.  We were the couple whose last name began with an "H."  My wife would have the picture.  I'll have to look for it.

 

OMG!!  That is sooo funny!  We are the couple second from the left.  Bucky standing behind me wearing white shirt and tie.  (He did not bring sport coat or tux on that short cruise).  BTW... Bucky is his nickname.  Formal name is Allen.  

Edited July 23, 2020 by island lady

[island lady]

5 minutes ago, davekathy said:

Can you play Aqualung on it?  

 

Hmmm...definitely not a guy I would want to meet.  Creepy Aqualung.  😵😜

[SRF]

On 7/21/2020 at 4:32 PM, Ashland said:

I do, but that shouldn't be a requirement...Loyalty apparently is lost on you.

 

No, you don't understand.

 

I did an 8 night solo in an ocean view.  16 points for about $100.  Doing that, it would cost about $11,000 to make D+

 

I normally book GS.  TWO cruises will be in the $11,000 range.  I do 4 cruises, I have paid twice what you might have paid to make D+.  And still would not be D.

 

As a business, which customer do you want to pamper??????

 

If I were in charge, loyalty would either have a dollars spent component, or would be based solely on dollars spent.

[Milwaukee Eight]

25 minutes ago, island lady said:

 

Hmmm...definitely not a guy I would want to meet.  Creepy Aqualung.  😵😜

Jethro Tull was amazing and a great flutist too. IMHO

[Milwaukee Eight]

10 minutes ago, SRF said:

 

No, you don't understand.

 

I did an 8 night solo in an ocean view.  16 points for about $100.  Doing that, it would cost about $11,000 to make D+

 

I normally book GS.  TWO cruises will be in the $11,000 range.  I do 4 cruises, I have paid twice what you might have paid to make D+.  And still would not be D.

 

As a business, which customer do you want to pamper??????

 

If I were in charge, loyalty would either have a dollars spent component, or would be based solely on dollars spent.

Bravo!!!

 

M8

[island lady]

As in the car business.  It's not the sale of the new car that the dealership is making money on...it's the "extras".  

 

Financing, extended warranty, warranty service work (big one), extra features, undercoat, clear coat...etc.  

 

In that frame of thinking...the cruise lines (IMHO) make their big profits on the "extras".  Drinks and Drink packages, shore excursions, internet, laundry, specialty restaurants, Starbucks, spa treatments, gift shops, casino (big one there),  etc...etc.   

 

So if you spend X amount for the fare on a just couple of cruises in a suite...versus same X of fare amount on numerous cruises in a cheaper cabin (more actual time on the ship).... which one is spending more on those extras?  

Edited July 23, 2020 by island lady

[yogimax]

11 minutes ago, SRF said:

 

If I were in charge, loyalty would either have a dollars spent component, or would be based solely on dollars spent.

Ah, but consider there are things more important than $$$ spent.  My experience is that those with D status and above are the best ambassadors for bringing in new business.  They will share the great benefits and urge others (as I have done) to stick with Royal to gain the lounge experience and other benefits.

[davekathy]

11 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

Jethro Tull was amazing and a great flutist too. IMHO

Agree the band "Jethro Tull" was good and Ian Anderson can still play the flute well.  I believe Pat was referring to the homeless person Ian Anderson (lead singer and played the flute) was singing about in the song Aqualung. Not sure if he is a card carrying C&A member.🤣

Edited July 23, 2020 by davekathy

[Milwaukee Eight]

8 minutes ago, davekathy said:

Agree the band "Jethro Tull" was good and Ian Anderson can still play the flute well.  I believe Pat was referring to the homeless person Ian Anderson (lead singer and played the flute) was singing about in the song Aqualung. Not sure if he is a card carrying C&A member.🤣

Thanks. I mess up the band with the individual. Thanks for the reminder. 
 

M8

[island lady]

10 minutes ago, davekathy said:

Agree the band "Jethro Tull" was good and Ian Anderson can still play the flute well.  I believe Pat was referring to the homeless person Ian Anderson (lead singer and played the flute) was singing about in the song Aqualung. Not sure if he is a card carrying C&A member.🤣

 

LOL...exactly my friend...thought that was obvious when I said Aqualung (indeed the character in the song) was creepy.  😉   Doesn't get much creepier than this:  

 

Aqualung

Jethro Tull

 

Sitting on a park bench
Eying little girls with bad intent
Snots running down his nose
Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes, hey, Aqualung

Drying in the cold sun
Watching as the frilly panties run, hey, Aqualung
Feeling like a dead duck
Spitting out pieces of his broken luck, oh, Aqualung

 

 

 

 

[davekathy]

14 minutes ago, island lady said:

 

LOL...exactly my friend...thought that was obvious when I said Aqualung (indeed the character in the song) was creepy.  😉   Doesn't get much creepier than this:  

And lets not forget "Crossed Eyed Marry". Oops I got off subject.  Looking forward to when cruising starts back up. Didn't you say you liked the DL location on the Rhapsody? 

Edited July 23, 2020 by davekathy

[grapau27]

24 minutes ago, island lady said:

As in the car business.  It's not the sale of the new car that the dealership is making money on...it's the "extras".  

 

Financing, extended warranty, warranty service work (big one), extra features, undercoat, clear coat...etc.  

 

In that frame of thinking...the cruise lines (IMHO) make their big profits on the "extras".  Drinks and Drink packages, shore excursions, internet, laundry, specialty restaurants, Starbucks, spa treatments, gift shops, casino (big one there),  etc...etc.   

 

So if you spend X amount for the fare on a just couple of cruises in a suite...versus same X of fare amount on numerous cruises in a cheaper cabin (more actual time on the ship).... which one is spending more on those extras?  

Excellent points.

Some Suite customers might only cruise once in a lifetime or even given to them as a special gift.

We are a captive audience on board and the more we cruise the more we spend on board.

 

[Milwaukee Eight]

41 minutes ago, island lady said:

As in the car business.  It's not the sale of the new car that the dealership is making money on...it's the "extras".  

 

Financing, extended warranty, warranty service work (big one), extra features, undercoat, clear coat...etc.  

 

In that frame of thinking...the cruise lines (IMHO) make their big profits on the "extras".  Drinks and Drink packages, shore excursions, internet, laundry, specialty restaurants, Starbucks, spa treatments, gift shops, casino (big one there),  etc...etc.   

 

So if you spend X amount for the fare on a just couple of cruises in a suite...versus same X of fare amount on numerous cruises in a cheaper cabin (more actual time on the ship).... which one is spending more on those extras?  

You don’t think Suites are spending the same or more onboard in your “extras” description?  Drink Packages, Internet, Excursions (Royal), Speciality Restaurants, Park West, Casino, Spa and Gift Shops?

 

M8

[RFerrington]

11 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

You don’t think Suites are spending the same or more onboard in your “extras” description?  Drink Packages, Internet, Excursions (Royal), Speciality Restaurants, Park West, Casino, Spa and Gift Shops?

 

M8

+1 for all of this minus Park West and the Gift Shops.  Everything else.  Yep.

[Milwaukee Eight]

5 minutes ago, RFerrington said:

+1 for all of this minus Park West and the Gift Shops.  Everything else.  Yep.

If the description of extras is true, why not award loyalty points by dollars spent onboard?  
 

I’ve been in favor of points by $ for some time. What’s there to be afraid of. 
 

M8
 

 

[compman9]

1 hour ago, SRF said:

 

No, you don't understand.

 

I did an 8 night solo in an ocean view.  16 points for about $100.  Doing that, it would cost about $11,000 to make D+

 

I normally book GS.  TWO cruises will be in the $11,000 range.  I do 4 cruises, I have paid twice what you might have paid to make D+.  And still would not be D.

 

As a business, which customer do you want to pamper??????

 

If I were in charge, loyalty would either have a dollars spent component, or would be based solely on dollars spent.

 

I have some sympathy with suite guest beliefs about 'pampering'

 

However it falls down on a number of issues

1. Most Diamond Plussers would have used all manner of different types of cabin. This presumption that we have only reached that level by using Inside cabins is nonsense. Yet man believe it to be so.

2. Most businesses require knowable cashflow figures - Loyal guests provide this. They build new ships based on these known figures.

3. It is not an either or, so there is no real reason to make it one. 

 

 

[CSHS1979]

1 hour ago, yogimax said:

Ah, but consider there are things more important than $$$ spent.  My experience is that those with D status and above are the best ambassadors for bringing in new business.  They will share the great benefits and urge others (as I have done) to stick with Royal to gain the lounge experience and other benefits.

 

But lately, at least here, all you do is complain about not being special anymore.

[CSHS1979]

56 minutes ago, island lady said:

 

LOL...exactly my friend...thought that was obvious when I said Aqualung (indeed the character in the song) was creepy.  😉   Doesn't get much creepier than this:  

 

Aqualung

Jethro Tull

 

Sitting on a park bench
Eying little girls with bad intent
Snots running down his nose
Greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes, hey, Aqualung

Drying in the cold sun
Watching as the frilly panties run, hey, Aqualung
Feeling like a dead duck
Spitting out pieces of his broken luck, oh, Aqualung

 

[grapau27]

24 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

You don’t think Suites are spending the same or more onboard in your “extras” description?  Drink Packages, Internet, Excursions (Royal), Speciality Restaurants, Park West, Casino, Spa and Gift Shops?

 

M8

We know you do Rory and I'm sure Royal appreciate it but I would guess a lot of Suite passengers only cruise a few times and a lot of their budget has been taken up in the cost of their suite.

If Royal get the right products at the right price in their shops they could sell a lot more merchandise.

[RFerrington]

20 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

If the description of extras is true, why not award loyalty points by dollars spent onboard?  
 

I’ve been in favor of points by $ for some time. What’s there to be afraid of. 
 

M8
 

 

I have no problem with that.

[grapau27]

15 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

If the description of extras is true, why not award loyalty points by dollars spent onboard?  
 

I’ve been in favor of points by $ for some time. What’s there to be afraid of. 
 

M8
 

 

We would do well with that but obviously Royal don't think it would work or they would introduce it.

1 extra point for spending over $1000 per week during your cruise would be interesting.

The sheer number of Diamond and higher loyalty shows they have it right with C&A to get points its only the points per tier has overwhelmed them as 80 points to make Diamond has shown.

[zekekelso]

So, extra points for extra spending. Sounds good. I’d also like to see extra points for entertaining people with your impromptu band. 

[TYMAN]

It's been a few years since we've been on a HAL ship (have a casino comp one next April), but they would give an extra point for each $300 spent on board. I would get three points just in my bar tab. lol!