CL/SL future when cruising returns.

[John&LaLa]

19 minutes ago, Seville2Cabo said:

Did not mean to “insult” pins in inside cabins.  Just that in the long term, without Covid, they are less profitable than one time cruisers in suites. 

 

Sorry, but the inside joke around here is all Pins travel on the cheap.

Personally, I'm over it and will challenge that stereotype at every corner.

 

 

[Ashland]

9 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

I did, and here is your original question

 

Which makes someone more loyal, spending more dollars on one cruise or spending more dollars by taking multiple cruises?

 

This question really can't be answered because it's ambiguous. Seriously, what's the difference between spending $10,000 on one cruise or five $2,000 cruises. Suite passengers can be easily as rabid as the upper C&A types. They might just not have the available time to float aimlessly around the oceans. But at the end of the day they speak with their wallets and come back to their favorite line. So I see loyalty as willing to drop big bucks for their favorite product

 

And the airlines definitely consider their business customers traveling up front to be their most loyal and valuable customers

 

I guess my previous answer was more how Royal would judge or need loyalty in the near term

Going forward the airlines might start to reconsider those business customers as their most valuable. Time will tell.

[Milwaukee Eight]

6 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Sorry, but the inside joke around here is all Pins travel on the cheap.

Personally, I'm over it and will challenge that stereotype at every corner.

 

 

I don’t believe that either. Some do, some don’t. 

[Ashland]

13 minutes ago, Seville2Cabo said:

Did not mean to offend.  Just don’t believe PhD’s should use the Dr title.  I am a PhD - Organic Chemistry - yes, ,very boring - but never say I’m a doctor 

Our youngest DS also has a PhD and the only time any of us called him Dr. was the day he graduated and he deserved it.

[reallyitsmema]

1 minute ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I don’t believe that either. Some do, some don’t. 

 

Some do and some don't, but many are sailing on free casino offers and upgrading for cheap.  No one, including those posting on this thread, know exactly what everyone is doing.  Lots of assumptions being made.

[Ocean Boy]

20 minutes ago, Seville2Cabo said:

Did not mean to offend.  Just don’t believe PhD’s should use the Dr title.  I am a PhD - Organic Chemistry - yes, ,very boring - but never say I’m a doctor 

No offense taken at all.

[Ocean Boy]

32 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 I see loyalty as willing to drop big bucks for their favorite product

 

 

The last non RCI cruise I took was in 2002 and that was with Celebrity. I had plenty of opportunities to book less expensive cruise on other lines. I didn't want to risk it. Maybe that is my odd vision of loyalty.

 

However, if the post Covid product turns out to be something that I don't appreciate my vision of loyalty may change.😉

[John&LaLa]

24 minutes ago, Ashland said:

Going forward the airlines might start to reconsider those business customers as their most valuable. Time will tell.

 

Who do you think has filled the seats during all of this😉😂😂

[xpcdoojk]

I have cheated on RCI... sailed Carnival in 1998, X in 1999 and 2000, HAL in 2005 princess in 2011, Avalon in 2014 and 2015.  Then there is the stuff I did off ships...  Have visited about 1/2 the planet on airplanes, cars buses and trains.  Have bought two cars in Europe just to drive them around there.  I am not loyal.  I have visited almost every state in the union.... actually I have visited every state in the Union, many of which can not be accessed by a cruiseship....

 

I suck!

 

jc

[John&LaLa]

8 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

The last non RCI cruise I took was in 2002 and that was with Celebrity. I had plenty of opportunities to book less expensive cruise on other lines. I didn't want to risk it. Maybe that is my odd vision of loyalty.

 

However, if the post Covid product turns out to be something that I don't appreciate my vision of loyalty may change.😉

 

What didn't you want to risk? 

[John&LaLa]

21 minutes ago, reallyitsmema said:

 

Some do and some don't, but many are sailing on free casino offers and upgrading for cheap.  No one, including those posting on this thread, know exactly what everyone is doing.  Lots of assumptions being made.

 

Anybody getting 'free' casino offers is paying for them in the casino. They just don't like to admit it. 😉

 

The casino isn't a charitable organization

[John&LaLa]

3 minutes ago, xpcdoojk said:

I have cheated on RCI... sailed Carnival in 1998, X in 1999 and 2000, HAL in 2005 princess in 2011, Avalon in 2014 and 2015.  Then there is the stuff I did off ships...  Have visited about 1/2 the planet on airplanes, cars buses and trains.  Have bought two cars in Europe just to drive them around there.  I am not loyal.  I have visited almost every state in the union.... actually I have visited every state in the Union, many of which can not be accessed by a cruiseship....

 

I suck!

 

jc

 

I am at 48. Have not been to Alaska and Rhode Island. 

 

And based on this evening, I'm probably not welcome in Little Rhody.

[Ocean Boy]

5 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

What didn't you want to risk? 

A subpar experience. My vacation time is sparse. But without C&A, since that is part of the overall experience,  maybe I would have been a bit more open to experimenting.

[xpcdoojk]

OB would gladly have you in Little Rhody.  Was in Rhode Island about 20 years ago to go to a computer demo out on Massachusetts islands.. Quite a lovely little spot.  I was invited to the late last year Chiefs and Patriots game by a manufacturer out of Boston we would probably have flown thru Providence again for that trip, but my customer decided after a couple of months of dickering by the vendor that we would rather watch the Chiefs on TV... good decision on our part although it would have been priceless to have watched that game in the stadium in Red yellow and white. 😉

[Ocean Boy]

3 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

I am at 48. Have not been to Alaska and Rhode Island. 

 

And based on this evening, I'm probably not welcome in Little Rhody.

Totally untrue.🙂

[Ocean Boy]

1 minute ago, xpcdoojk said:

OB would gladly have you in Little Rhody.  Was in Rhode Island about 20 years ago to go to a computer demo out on Massachusetts islands.. 

Which island? I lived on Nantucket as a kid.

[John&LaLa]

5 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

A subpar experience. My vacation time is sparse. But without C&A, since that is part of the overall experience,  maybe I would have been a bit more open to experimenting.

 

Fair enough, but not sure that defines loyalty.

That's more like a comfort level or an appreciation of familiarity. 

 

I get brochures and emails from other lines on a daily basis. Some are part of the RCG family, others not. Some are from lines we sailed 10 years ago. But I last sailed a non Royal ship in 2007. So I am loyal, yes. I even cruise 10+ times a year. But I know suite people that cruise 3-4 times a year and are just as loyal as I am

[Ocean Boy]

49 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Sorry, but the inside joke around here is all Pins travel on the cheap.

Personally, I'm over it and will challenge that stereotype at every corner.

 

 

I am quite sure that RCI appreciates having every cabin booked and doesn't care if there is a newbe or a pinnical in it. I'm pretty sick and tired of people looking down their noses at people who book them.

[xpcdoojk]

The computer demo and education was in Yarmouth, but we went on our downtime for the week along the whole area.  I remember going to a bar in a small harbor where the Kennedy compound( Hyannisport I believe) was and they served lobsters for $5 while you were quaffing a beverage at the bar... and I thought what a country!  ‘This would have been 1998 or 1999, as we bought the software they were selling and installed in and went life April 1, 2000.  What a CF that was.  Lots of grey haired acquired.

 

jc

[Ocean Boy]

2 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Fair enough, but not sure that defines loyalty.

That's more like a comfort level or an appreciation of familiarity. 

 

I get brochures and emails from other lines on a daily basis. Some are part of the RCG family, others not. Some are from lines we sailed 10 years ago. But I last sailed a non Royal ship in 2007. So I am loyal, yes. I even cruise 10+ times a year. But I know suite people that cruise 3-4 times a year and are just as loyal as I am

Well I guess you are more loyal than I am.

[John&LaLa]

9 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

Totally untrue.🙂

 

I know, just being a smart-ass 

[xpcdoojk]

Live not life....  

[John&LaLa]

1 minute ago, Ocean Boy said:

Well I guess you are more loyal than I am.

 

Laura is 😉

[reallyitsmema]

1 minute ago, Ocean Boy said:

I am quite sure that RCI appreciates having every cabin booked and doesn't care if there is a newbe or a pinnical in it. I'm pretty sick and tired of people looking down their noses at people who book them.

 

I agree, people just need to worry about themselves.  We don't book insides because my DH wants a balcony and won't sail without one.  He only likes to sail Royal Caribbean because that is what he knows and likes, he isn't one to like change, so I get why you only sail Royal.  I have sailed NCL and had just convinced him to try NCL Haven or Celebrity, but the pandemic hit.  Now, I just hope we sail again sometime.  

[Ocean Boy]

9 minutes ago, reallyitsmema said:

 

I agree, people just need to worry about themselves.  We don't book insides because my DH wants a balcony and won't sail without one.  He only likes to sail Royal Caribbean because that is what he knows and likes, he isn't one to like change, so I get why you only sail Royal.  I have sailed NCL and had just convinced him to try NCL Haven or Celebrity, but the pandemic hit.  Now, I just hope we sail again sometime.  

I didn't used to care about balconies. But more and more I find myself enjoying having a retreat away from the commotion of the ship. I also love sitting out there for awhile before bed. So I guess that I have evolved (aged ?) to a point where it is now worth the extra money even if I don't spend a ton of time there or in the cabin.