crzndeb Posted January 21, 2021 #1651 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, ZoeyVictoria said: My sister (retired RN) told me she read that we should not take ibuprofen after the shot, but Tylenol is okay. I researched that and she had it wrong. What I read is to not take either before the shot, as they can make the vaccine less effective by blunting the body’s immune response. Afterwards is apparently okay. I had my first shot this morning and have a sore arm plus both legs, pain in my elbow and wrist, headache, and fatigue. I am going to forego the meds, just in case. It might be worth googling this question prior to taking the OTC meds. Interesting. My daughter is an NP, so I will run it by her to see what she has heard or read. It’s been about 6 hrs now and not even a sore arm yet, although that could be different in the morning. It’s been about 5 hrs since I took the ibuprofen, and I won’t take anymore, since not having symptoms. I hope you feel better in the morning. Edit: I just read up on it, and I definitely won’t be taking anything before 2nd dose. It makes sense. Edited January 21, 2021 by crzndeb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzyluvs2cruise Posted January 21, 2021 #1652 Share Posted January 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, ZoeyVictoria said: My sister (retired RN) told me she read that we should not take ibuprofen after the shot, but Tylenol is okay. I researched that and she had it wrong. What I read is to not take either before the shot, as they can make the vaccine less effective by blunting the body’s immune response. Afterwards is apparently okay. I had my first shot this morning and have a sore arm plus both legs, pain in my elbow and wrist, headache, and fatigue. I am going to forego the meds, just in case. It might be worth googling this question prior to taking the OTC meds. I dose #1 of Moderna last Thursday. Mild sore arm overnight and the next day. After that nothing. Didn't take any meds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindivan Posted January 21, 2021 #1653 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, lenquixote66 said: Well,I took the vaccine Jan.13 and still have a headache that I left the hospital with.Yesterday my blood pressure spiked to 210/100.While high blood pressure is not a side effect of the vaccine ,a very painful headache can cause the BP to raise. I went to a hospital ER and the doctor treating me did not take the vaccine,neither did the nurse.I am wondering if they know something we do not know. Doubt it. Not sure anyone knows the answers. Maybe they recently had it and feel secure. Who knows. I have multiple family members who are medical and have had both doses and are fine. And my 84 and 87yo parents are anxiously awaiting to get it. As am I but it will be a while for me. I’m sorry your are having problems and hope they resolve. Edited January 21, 2021 by cindivan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted January 21, 2021 #1654 Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 hours ago, BSocial said: oh, no. So sorry to hear this. Sure hope your headache goes away soon! Was this the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine? Pfizer.One of my daughters took the Moderna Saturday and is fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted January 21, 2021 #1655 Share Posted January 21, 2021 3 hours ago, crzndeb said: From your other postings, you have mentioned you have several medical issues. Do you think this could have played a part in the reaction you had? Thousands have gotten the vaccine with no side affects. I got my first dose today, and so far, so good. I also took a couple of ibuprofen when I got home. I plan to take it before my second dose, since that when I have read most people have side affects. But it’s a good sign, because it’s your immune system kicking in. I’m excited...today is a good day! Well,I have Parkinson’s and I am going to my Neurologist on Tuesday My Oncologist urged me to get the vaccine so I do not believe it is related to what he is treating me for.I believe I can rule out my other ailments. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted January 21, 2021 #1656 Share Posted January 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, lenquixote66 said: Well,I have Parkinson’s and I am going to my Neurologist on Tuesday My Oncologist urged me to get the vaccine so I do not believe it is related to what he is treating me for.I believe I can rule out my other ailments. Sorry to hear you have problems. I had a little bit of all the listed effects but they went away. Hope your doctor helps. That would be tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crzndeb Posted January 21, 2021 #1657 Share Posted January 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, lenquixote66 said: Well,I have Parkinson’s and I am going to my Neurologist on Tuesday My Oncologist urged me to get the vaccine so I do not believe it is related to what he is treating me for.I believe I can rule out my other ailments. My friend has Parkinson’s also, and she just got her first dose of Moderna today. So far she is good, but I will definitely report back if she has any side affects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSocial Posted January 21, 2021 #1658 Share Posted January 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, lenquixote66 said: Well,I have Parkinson’s and I am going to my Neurologist on Tuesday My Oncologist urged me to get the vaccine so I do not believe it is related to what he is treating me for.I believe I can rule out my other ailments. Praying they find out the cause, to stop your pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted January 21, 2021 #1659 Share Posted January 21, 2021 27 minutes ago, cindivan said: Doubt it. Not sure anyone knows the answers. Maybe they recently had it and feel secure. Who knows. I have multiple family members who are medical and have had both doses and are fine. And my 84 and 87yo parents are anxiously awaiting to get it. As am I but it will be a while for me. I’m sorry your are having problems and hope they resolve. Thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coralc Posted January 21, 2021 #1660 Share Posted January 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, crzndeb said: Edit: I just read up on it, and I definitely won’t be taking anything before 2nd dose. It makes sense. I read the same thing and there have been several articles about not taking anything prior. I guess, just let the vaccine do it's thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted January 21, 2021 #1661 Share Posted January 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, firefly333 said: Sorry to hear you have problems. I had a little bit of all the listed effects but they went away. Hope your doctor helps. That would be tough. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted January 21, 2021 #1662 Share Posted January 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, crzndeb said: My friend has Parkinson’s also, and she just got her first dose of Moderna today. So far she is good, but I will definitely report back if she has any side affects. Hopefully she will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted January 21, 2021 #1663 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, BSocial said: Praying they find out the cause, to stop your pain. I am praying too,more than I ever have. Thank you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firefly333 Posted January 21, 2021 #1664 Share Posted January 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Coralc said: I read the same thing and there have been several articles about not taking anything prior. I guess, just let the vaccine do it's thing. They asked if we had any blood thinners like aspirin or if we had taken any other vaccines in the last 2 weeks. Dont even take a flu shot if you might get it soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted January 21, 2021 #1665 Share Posted January 21, 2021 My DW gets her shot Friday. As a health care worker I figured she would have gotten it sooner, but because she doesn’t work for the hospitals, but for the public utility, the hospitals skipped her and her co-worker RN and went to the next level of patients. Even though both of our local hospitals and the docs suck up to them because of all the patients they feed into the system with really good health care benefits. O well. On the upside I get to give blood Friday... I hope I can take off the mask for the hour.... but am guessing not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coralc Posted January 21, 2021 #1666 Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) Nope thanks. Flu shot was back in October. Hopefully we will all be vaccinated before next season's flu shot is due. My age group (50-64) has a while to wait. Edited January 21, 2021 by Coralc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atgood Posted January 21, 2021 #1667 Share Posted January 21, 2021 We’re way down on the list to get the vaccine so it won’t be happening for us anytime soon. On a positive note though, the WHO announced revised guidance today regarding interpreting PCR test results, essentially saying that high cycle rates result in high false positive rates. “WHO guidance Diagnostic testing for SARS-CoV-2 states that careful interpretation of weak positive results is needed (1). The cycle threshold (Ct) needed to detect virus is inversely proportional to the patient’s viral load. Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different NAT technology. WHO reminds IVD users that disease prevalence alters the predictive value of test results; as disease prevalence decreases, the risk of false positive increases (2). This means that the probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as prevalence decreases, irrespective of the claimed specificity.” https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05 If PCR cycle rates are lowered, then the # of positive cases will drop. Also, with the focus on administering the vaccine now, testing will go down and so will the # of CV cases too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare vacationlover_mn Posted January 23, 2021 #1668 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Post deleted because I can’t properly articulate my thought 🙂 Edited January 23, 2021 by vacationlover_mn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formula280SS Posted January 23, 2021 #1669 Share Posted January 23, 2021 On 1/21/2021 at 12:03 AM, atgood said: We’re way down on the list to get the vaccine so it won’t be happening for us anytime soon. On a positive note though, the WHO announced revised guidance today regarding interpreting PCR test results, essentially saying that high cycle rates result in high false positive rates. “WHO guidance Diagnostic testing for SARS-CoV-2 states that careful interpretation of weak positive results is needed (1). The cycle threshold (Ct) needed to detect virus is inversely proportional to the patient’s viral load. Where test results do not correspond with the clinical presentation, a new specimen should be taken and retested using the same or different NAT technology. WHO reminds IVD users that disease prevalence alters the predictive value of test results; as disease prevalence decreases, the risk of false positive increases (2). This means that the probability that a person who has a positive result (SARS-CoV-2 detected) is truly infected with SARS-CoV-2 decreases as prevalence decreases, irrespective of the claimed specificity.” https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05 If PCR cycle rates are lowered, then the # of positive cases will drop. Also, with the focus on administering the vaccine now, testing will go down and so will the # of CV cases too. Of course, especially on the day it was announced. Not a surprise at all. The CDC is also contemplating recommending that states only us Covid as the "cause of death" not for "deaths of people that also had Covid" (especially without symptoms). In our largest cities, previously locked down, at the current highest weekly rates of infection, cases, hospitalizations and deaths, such impositions are being lifted for restaurants, bars, gyms, etc. Again, no surprise at all to a reasonably and independently informed person. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted January 23, 2021 #1670 Share Posted January 23, 2021 55 minutes ago, Formula280SS said: Of course, especially on the day it was announced. Not a surprise at all. The CDC is also contemplating recommending that states only us Covid as the "cause of death" not for "deaths of people that also had Covid" (especially without symptoms). In our largest cities, previously locked down, at the current highest weekly rates of infection, cases, hospitalizations and deaths, such impositions are being lifted for restaurants, bars, gyms, etc. Again, no surprise at all to a reasonably and independently informed person. Not only not surprising, but completely predictable 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted January 23, 2021 #1671 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Formula280SS said: The CDC is also contemplating recommending that states only us Covid as the "cause of death" not for "deaths of people that also had Covid" (especially without symptoms). Where did you see this? This would remove about 3/4 of all covid deaths if they changed this. Edited January 23, 2021 by smokeybandit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atgood Posted January 23, 2021 #1672 Share Posted January 23, 2021 There needs to be a distinction between “dying from CV19” and “dying with CV19.” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted January 23, 2021 #1673 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, atgood said: There needs to be a distinction between “dying from CV19” and “dying with CV19.” Also "dying with covid symptoms but not confirmed covid" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThirstyCruiser Posted January 23, 2021 #1674 Share Posted January 23, 2021 4 hours ago, smokeybandit said: Where did you see this? This would remove about 3/4 of all covid deaths if they changed this. Highly unlikely they would go back pre mid-January to lower the numbers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted January 23, 2021 #1675 Share Posted January 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, ThirstyCruiser said: Highly unlikely they would go back pre mid-January to lower the numbers. Definitely not. I'm just saying that if that was the criteria from the start, then we are all cruising right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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