Kwaj girl Posted July 30, 2020 #26 Share Posted July 30, 2020 17 hours ago, mrlevin said: NCLH is being run as one 28 ship cruise line. No thought is being made as to the individual attributes of the three cruislines nor of the 28 ships. Why cancel the full South America (partial) circumnavigation without cancelling the future segments? Regent should immediately (or at least in the near future) state what is happening to the South America and World Cruise on Mariner. This month by month makes sense financially but does not make sense to the educated consumers of regent. We are used to extended cruises not one week eastern and one week western Caribbean. Just my two Texas centavos, Marc We are booked on the '21 WC...and noticed in recent RSSC webinars that this voyage was not even mentioned when noting 'where the ships were going' in '21 and '22. WC 22 was mentioned...but not '21. GRRRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwn Posted July 30, 2020 #27 Share Posted July 30, 2020 47 minutes ago, Kwaj girl said: We are booked on the '21 WC...and noticed in recent RSSC webinars that this voyage was not even mentioned when noting 'where the ships were going' in '21 and '22. WC 22 was mentioned...but not '21. GRRRR I noticed that too. Are your traveling companions getting as depressed ours are? Carolyn (2018 WC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiefrommd Posted July 31, 2020 #28 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Just heard from a friend that his holiday (December) cruise on Crystal was just cancelled. He indicated they cancelled all cruises in December. Please do not have a melt down that I mentioned another cruise line. It looks like they are being pro active. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted July 31, 2020 #29 Share Posted July 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, howiefrommd said: Just heard from a friend that his holiday (December) cruise on Crystal was just cancelled. He indicated they cancelled all cruises in December. Please do not have a melt down that I mentioned another cruise line. It looks like they are being pro active. That is good information - thank you for letting us know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellaggio Cruisers Posted July 31, 2020 #30 Share Posted July 31, 2020 We were booked on Crystal.. October 29th to November 12th. Crystal canceled last night. Full deposit will be returned. Or, 125% FCC. We opted for the refund. sheila and Herb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flossie009 Posted July 31, 2020 #31 Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 4:58 PM, Travelcat2 said: Do you have any bookings for next year? Yes, we are hoping that we will be able to sail on the Regent cruises that we have booked in 2021: Spring: Explorer Summer: Navigator Autumn: Mariner 2020 seems to have become a cruise sabbatical ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flossie009 Posted July 31, 2020 #32 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Kwaj girl said: We are booked on the '21 WC...and noticed in recent RSSC webinars that this voyage was not even mentioned when noting 'where the ships were going' in '21 and '22. WC 22 was mentioned...but not '21. GRRRR Glass half full: There is still 6 months until embarkation for things to turn more positive Glass half empty: A world cruise will need a lot of agreements with numerous countries & ports; most of whom have their own issues with the pandemic, including second waves. PS: My husband is an engineer so he just thinks the glass is too big 🤣 Edited July 31, 2020 by flossie009 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipahain Posted August 5, 2020 #33 Share Posted August 5, 2020 The way Covid is suddenly escalating across Europe is very worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Q Posted August 9, 2020 #34 Share Posted August 9, 2020 FDR is quoted in the last paragraph. https://thepointsguy.com/news/cruise-lines-cancel-into-2021/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guerncruising Posted August 9, 2020 #35 Share Posted August 9, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 7:55 PM, flossie009 said: PS: My husband is an engineer so he just thinks the glass is too big 🤣 I couldn’t agree more. It’s as if this thing should be put into the too difficult to deal with pile. I’m sure that it isn’t really. However, the recent resurgences throughout Europe aren’t the best news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlevin Posted August 11, 2020 #36 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Tomorrow 12 August is last day to request cash refund for October cruises canceled on 29 July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiefrommd Posted August 13, 2020 #37 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) Just saw that Viking cancelled all of their cruises for the rest of 2020. How thoughtful of them to update their customers. Holland has cancelled until mid December. Edited August 13, 2020 by howiefrommd Correction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pappy1022 Posted August 13, 2020 #38 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Crystal has also cancelled all Ocean and River cruises through the remainder of 2020 And all yacht cruises through Jan. 9, 2021. When will Regent follow the leaders? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Q Posted August 13, 2020 #39 Share Posted August 13, 2020 10 hours ago, howiefrommd said: Just saw that Viking cancelled all of their cruises for the rest of 2020. How thoughtful of them to update their customers. Holland has cancelled until mid December. Viking also attached an excellent video with their owner explaining their decision. It is very well done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiefrommd Posted August 13, 2020 #40 Share Posted August 13, 2020 The thing that I find truly baffling, that people are still giving final payments and in some cases deposits. The only thing I have to show for all this is a bunch of FCCs, which may have no value if things go bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallydave Posted August 13, 2020 #41 Share Posted August 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, howiefrommd said: The thing that I find truly baffling, that people are still giving final payments and in some cases deposits. The only thing I have to show for all this is a bunch of FCCs, which may have no value if things go bad. Really in some cases goes well beyond baffling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ2002 Posted August 13, 2020 #42 Share Posted August 13, 2020 We've not committed any 'new money' since this all started, but we have moved existing deposits to cruises later in 2021 - with the hope that cruising will have resumed by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrJ Berkshire Posted August 13, 2020 #43 Share Posted August 13, 2020 You have got to remain positive that cruises will restart. Our FCC's are from a cancelled Pacific cruise + Manchu Picchu which we have moved to 2021 South America and if necessary to the Pacific start of 2022 WC. We also have a European deposit on a Splendour cruise in and out of Southampton- near to us so no flights for May 21. At present with low interest rates the 125%FCC is a good deal, we want to do this trips as early 60's and retired, if Regent does go under the World will be in a mess, so much more likely that the mega ships of the basic lines are more at risk, as are most airlines!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrJ Berkshire Posted August 13, 2020 #44 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Sorry auto-correct has put Manchu Picchu not MACHU PICCHU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallydave Posted August 13, 2020 #45 Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, GrJ Berkshire said: Sorry auto-correct has put Manchu Picchu not MACHU PICCHU FYI, you have approx 20 minutes to edit your post for things like this. Simply go to your post and click the edit button to the right of the quote button and edit your post as you choose. Quick and easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiefrommd Posted August 13, 2020 #46 Share Posted August 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, GrJ Berkshire said: You have got to remain positive that cruises will restart. Our FCC's are from a cancelled Pacific cruise + Manchu Picchu which we have moved to 2021 South America and if necessary to the Pacific start of 2022 WC. We also have a European deposit on a Splendour cruise in and out of Southampton- near to us so no flights for May 21. At present with low interest rates the 125%FCC is a good deal, we want to do this trips as early 60's and retired, if Regent does go under the World will be in a mess, so much more likely that the mega ships of the basic lines are more at risk, as are most airlines!! Obviously we are in uncharted waters. Positivity is good, but one must be cautious. After 9/11, Renaissance cruise declared a liquidation bankruptcy. We were lucky to have insurance that covered the bankruptcy. Unfortunately, the insurance I have (Allianz) nor my credit card covers a loss from FCC. Airlines are in big trouble, and cruise lines need planes to get their customers to their ships. From what you read in the business pages, airlines will be a fraction of what they are today. I would imagine, Regent would have to end up with charter flights (similar to what Crystal did a few years ago). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ2002 Posted August 13, 2020 #47 Share Posted August 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, GrJ Berkshire said: You have got to remain positive that cruises will restart. Yes. None of us know when it will be, but it will probably be a different onboard experience - - initially and perhaps longer term as well. Capacity (guests onboard, and even number of ships sailing) will likely be less. But, I am hopeful and optimistic that cruising will return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiefrommd Posted August 13, 2020 #48 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, RJ2002 said: Yes. None of us know when it will be, but it will probably be a different onboard experience - - initially and perhaps longer term as well. Capacity (guests onboard, and even number of ships sailing) will likely be less. But, I am hopeful and optimistic that cruising will return. I enjoy cruising and certainly hope it returns. My original post dealt with the fact that it was baffling to me that someone would make a final payment or deposit at this time. As an example, people will have to make final payment on October, November and December cruises soon. Crystal, Viking and Holland America are to be commended that they announced cancelations through the end of the year. I am no economist nor expert on the travel industry, but my gut tells me those cruises (October, November and December) are not going to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcardad Posted August 13, 2020 #49 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I bet nothing before April....at the very earliest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ2002 Posted August 13, 2020 #50 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, howiefrommd said: I enjoy cruising and certainly hope it returns. My original post dealt with the fact that it was baffling to me that someone would make a final payment or deposit at this time. As an example, people will have to make final payment on October, November and December cruises soon. Crystal, Viking and Holland America are to be commended that they announced cancelations through the end of the year. I am no economist nor expert on the travel industry, but my gut tells me those cruises (October, November and December) are not going to happen. I hear you. As I've mentioned on other posts, the final payment on our November 2020 Explorer cruise (Dubai-Singapore) was due recently. Just didn't see any point in making the final payment, only to have the cruise ultimately cancelled and then have to wait for the refund (we would not have taken an FCC). So, we slid that deposit over to a totally different Explorer itinerary in December 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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