DennisNV Posted September 13, 2020 #51 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I wish we could go back to complaining about butter! 9 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted September 13, 2020 #52 Share Posted September 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, voljeep said: #ustoo with a couple of changes - me and my wife - do like to go out on our own in ports if we are just going to walk around the port area - we have no problem with Princess excursions, and yes they are more expensive and generic, but we accept that we are ship people, not cabin people - as we like to people watch as much as anything else it's OB or higher for us now, where before we were happy with an inside stay safe stay hydrated We usually do go out on our own in ports but, sometimes, we also just stay on the ship or take a Princess excursion. In Alaska, a balcony is the only excursion we need to really enjoy ourselves. We just tell our room steward to take the mornings off ... and we to get food or order room service and open a bottle of bubbly, we are set!! We usually book Obstructed OV cabins ... may have to reconsider springing for a balcony for our next sailing, though. While I don't mind OV cabins with a decent view, I don't think my DH would ever step foot back on a cruise if he had to be quarantined without a balcony. However, not sure they are even quarantining a whole ship of people as they did in the past ... in general, we don't know how it is going to work when cruising resumes. I just don't think that quarantining a whole group of noninfected people for two weeks or more after the end of a cruise will happen again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneharborlady Posted September 13, 2020 #53 Share Posted September 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, DennisNV said: I wish we could go back to complaining about butter! Isnt that the truth! We didnt know how well off we were. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohnonotmeagain Posted September 13, 2020 #54 Share Posted September 13, 2020 21 hours ago, Roger88 said: I keep hearing news that we are getting the vaccine by the end of this year. As soon as the vaccine will be around, there wont be any limitations and this covid thing will be considered as just another type of flue that can be easily curred Ha ha, very good wind up. Unless, of course you're serious....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coastie Posted September 13, 2020 #55 Share Posted September 13, 2020 OK, so a vaccine becomes available. It will take some time to get wide distribution and then additional time to ensure it’s effectiveness on a worldwide basis. I would guess that any “normal” cruising will not take place until, at least, 2022. Regardless of how long it takes to get, some cruising changes will also be necessary, including, verification that each passenger has been inoculated (the good old “shot” card), elimination of the buffet as we know it, much more spacing between tables in dinning rooms, and improved ship and cabin ventilation systems. Also the mandatory warning of masks, at least when going ashore in some 3rd world countries. We have a long way to go before cruising is a safe vacation bet, and I really hope the cruise lines will step up and start implementing these changes quickly because, like all of you, I want to get back to cruising as soon as it’s safe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted September 13, 2020 #56 Share Posted September 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Old Coastie said: I would guess that any “normal” cruising will not take place until, at least, 2022 so what about the 'abnormal' cruises going on now ? are they OK ? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted September 13, 2020 #57 Share Posted September 13, 2020 34 minutes ago, voljeep said: so what about the 'abnormal' cruises going on now ? are they OK ? And ... I kind of love the idea of reduced capacity on a ship, even if it does mean wearing a mask. If that is abnormal, bring it on!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2wheelin Posted September 13, 2020 #58 Share Posted September 13, 2020 3 hours ago, skynight said: Minus 4 F (-20C) is dry ice shipping. Freezers are available for storage at these temperatures. Minus 94F (-35C) is still in the dry ice range, but probably requires special low temperature freezers for storage. In both cases the distribution logistic issues are massive. Minus 35C is -31F. I think you meant -70C which is a common lab freezer. Dry ice and liquid N are common transporter mediums. Minus 20C is just your normal Sears home freezer. Nothing special about that. People tend to read C and think it must be super cold. All pharmacies and laboratories have such freezers and most labs have -60C or -80C freezers. My institution has thousands of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phred119s Posted September 13, 2020 #59 Share Posted September 13, 2020 like some others have mentioned, I'd have no problems with boarding a ship today if we could! Also, like others, we aren't "social" cruisers so we don't feel the need to meet new people. We began traveling again in May, and to be honest, I hate we took March and April off. I haven't felt unsafe, and we haven't gotten sick. Sometimes we fly, sometimes we drive but either way we've encountered no problems. Like @Cruise Raider mentioned we take risks every day some of them are so routine that we don't even consider that it is a risk we are taking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abqmommyof4 Posted September 13, 2020 #60 Share Posted September 13, 2020 6 hours ago, geocruiser said: I am very sorry to hear about your daughter passing away. My sincere condolence. Maria thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abqmommyof4 Posted September 13, 2020 #61 Share Posted September 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Ombud said: I'm sorry for your loss. My son is forever 16 thank you, you understand how I feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abqmommyof4 Posted September 13, 2020 #62 Share Posted September 13, 2020 6 hours ago, memoak said: I have gotten really tired of the “if I die I die “ attitude. i don't live with the attitude of if I die I die, i'm just not afraid of death. I do what i need to keep myself and those around me safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcrcruiser Posted September 14, 2020 Author #63 Share Posted September 14, 2020 There have been some very intelligent posts on this thread ,backed up with current data on the covid 19 vaccine entries coming for initial distribution . We talk to cruise line personnel quite often /& have yet to hear about any protocols for health safety as yet . The cruise lines have some ships sailing in the european market but now the spread of Covid 19 has been increasing in a alarming rate We hope that out cruise for Jan 15 ,2022 will be a successful & safe way to travel once again .I do not see passenger cruising resuming much before a year or more from now for the general public . Cruise lines must have a certain number of pax on board to be profitable . Thus ,these huge ships will have to have quite a few people on board to sail & the health safety protocol must be in place . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ombud Posted September 14, 2020 #64 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, abqmommyof4 said: i don't live with the attitude of if I die I die, i'm just not afraid of death. I do what i need to keep myself and those around me safe. Fortunately they can't understand that not being afraid isn't the same as reckless But I digress ~~~~~ I'm ready to cruise NOW I state as I'm watching football all day while Sheltering in Place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisalta Posted September 14, 2020 #65 Share Posted September 14, 2020 7 hours ago, DennisNV said: I wish we could go back to complaining about butter! I prefer sweet butter as opposed to salted butter. I really dislike it when they put out salted butter with the bread. DennisNV does that complaint make you happy? 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npcl Posted September 14, 2020 #66 Share Posted September 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Cruise Raider said: We usually do go out on our own in ports but, sometimes, we also just stay on the ship or take a Princess excursion. In Alaska, a balcony is the only excursion we need to really enjoy ourselves. We just tell our room steward to take the mornings off ... and we to get food or order room service and open a bottle of bubbly, we are set!! We usually book Obstructed OV cabins ... may have to reconsider springing for a balcony for our next sailing, though. While I don't mind OV cabins with a decent view, I don't think my DH would ever step foot back on a cruise if he had to be quarantined without a balcony. However, not sure they are even quarantining a whole ship of people as they did in the past ... in general, we don't know how it is going to work when cruising resumes. I just don't think that quarantining a whole group of noninfected people for two weeks or more after the end of a cruise will happen again. hard to tell since the cruiselines have not submitted their plans to the CDC yet. the team rcl and nclh put together has not even completed their work yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksheehan16 Posted September 14, 2020 #67 Share Posted September 14, 2020 If you are afraid do not cruise. Let everyone else live like human beings. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outerdog Posted September 14, 2020 #68 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, ksheehan16 said: If you are afraid do not cruise. Let everyone else live like human beings. As has been stated many times in these threads, the consequences of the choices an individual makes with regards to covid are not limited to that individual. In other words, you spread that crap to others upon your return. You are not living like animals by not cruising for a year. Ease up on the drama. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisalta Posted September 14, 2020 #69 Share Posted September 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Cruise Raider said: In Alaska, a balcony is the only excursion we need to really enjoy ourselves. We just tell our room steward to take the mornings off ... and we to get food or order room service and open a bottle of bubbly, we are set!! I hope you give your room steward written instructions to show their supervisor as the supervisors perform random checks of the staterooms to make sure the work has been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare HappyInVan Posted September 14, 2020 #70 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Holy Smokes! Israel is first country to lockdown again. For a month. "All schools, hotels and shopping centres are to close; Supermarkets, pharmacies and restaurants can only open for delivery.. Israel was initially quick to curb the spread of the virus and sealed the country’s borders early on in the year during its first outbreak. But in an effort to kickstart the economy, schools were invited to reopen in May, which led to a surge in cases." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-coronavirus-lockdown-cases-second-wave-infections-b435513.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Paula_MacFan Posted September 14, 2020 #71 Share Posted September 14, 2020 12 hours ago, brisalta said: I hope you give your room steward written instructions to show their supervisor as the supervisors perform random checks of the staterooms to make sure the work has been done. Wouldn't that be the same as leaving the 'do not disturb' sign on the door? We regularly refuse steward service and leave out the sign. I've never had to provide 'written instructions'. That seems a little over the top. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Raider Posted September 14, 2020 #72 Share Posted September 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, Paula_MacFan said: Wouldn't that be the same as leaving the 'do not disturb' sign on the door? We regularly refuse steward service and leave out the sign. I've never had to provide 'written instructions'. That seems a little over the top. I agree! We oftentimes just ask them to provide us with fresh towels, TP, Kleenex, etc if we need it. They are always happy to oblige. We also keep the do not disturb sign out on the door so, the supervisor will know we did not want to be disturbed. If we happen to meet with the supervisor in the hallway, we make sure to let him/her know that we appreciate the room steward respects our wishes. We never reduce the tip, either, in case someone was going to jump to that conclusion. I really wouldn't even object to reducing the room steward's duties to only once a day. I think Carnival did that at one time ... maybe it still exists. I honestly don't know .. I just read about it being reduced to once a day. People could choose if they wanted morning or evening service. That would certainly work for me. However, I could see how that works out in the long run ... they will just reduce the number of room stewards, increase their number of rooms and then, there will always an entire block of passengers on a particular cruise that are more needy and then the room steward gets slammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Paula_MacFan Posted September 14, 2020 #73 Share Posted September 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, Cruise Raider said: I agree! We oftentimes just ask them to provide us with fresh towels, TP, Kleenex, etc if we need it. They are always happy to oblige. We also keep the do not disturb sign out on the door so, the supervisor will know we did not want to be disturbed. If we happen to meet with the supervisor in the hallway, we make sure to let him/her know that we appreciate the room steward respects our wishes. We never reduce the tip, either, in case someone was going to jump to that conclusion. I really wouldn't even object to reducing the room steward's duties to only once a day. I think Carnival did that at one time ... maybe it still exists. I honestly don't know .. I just read about it being reduced to once a day. People could choose if they wanted morning or evening service. That would certainly work for me. However, I could see how that works out in the long run ... they will just reduce the number of room stewards, increase their number of rooms and then, there will always an entire block of passengers on a particular cruise that are more needy and then the room steward gets slammed. We do same thing, just ask for things as needed and don't require total service 2x a day. And I didn't mention it in my original post either but obviously we have never reduced tips and leave the auto tips in place regardless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ombud Posted September 14, 2020 #74 Share Posted September 14, 2020 52 minutes ago, Paula_MacFan said: We do same thing, just ask for things as needed and don't require total service 2x a day. And I didn't mention it in my original post either but obviously we have never reduced tips and leave the auto tips in place regardless. I just have evening service. I make my own bed at home & onboard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRabbit Posted September 14, 2020 #75 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Ombud said: I just have evening service. I make my own bed at home & onboard My DW informed me it was full service or No Go. Fingers crossed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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