New vaccine

[jeanlyon]

I've just seen the Ortho doc about my knee.  After many tests,, he pronounced all ligaments are good, no torn meniscus.  Just a severe bone bruise just below the kneecap.  thankfully today I can walk normally, although not very far, climb up and down stairs OK.  It's been bloody awful, but quite relieved it's not a ligament.  poor old soul!!  Might help if I stopped tripping up, due to back surgery some years ago, giving me a slight foot drop. 

Edited November 22, 2020 by jeanlyon

[grapau27]

2 minutes ago, jeanlyon said:

I've just seen the Ortho doc about my knee.  After many tests,, he pronounced all ligaments are good, no torn meniscus.  Just a severe bone bruise just below the kneecap.  thankfully today I can walk normally, although not very far, climb up and down stairs OK.  It's been bloody awful, but quite relieved it's not a ligament.  poor old soul!!  Might help if I stopped tripping up, due to back surgery some years ago, giving me a slight foot drop. 

That's great news you have not torn any ligaments and hopefully with regular exercise you will regain full movement and get back to normal.

[jeanlyon]

Me?  Normal?  Doubt it.  However, I am able to use the Harbour Master's parking space at the office, cos he loves me dearly.  I've known him since he was 18 and now he's the HM. 

[Denarius]

I am age 73 and so am towards the front of the queue for vacination. I intend to take it. Whilst I have cruises booked for 2021 however, rearrangements of those booked and cancelled, I will not be booking any more unless and until some resemblance of normality returns to life onboard. I want a holiday not an ordeal.

[jeanlyon]

Yes couldn't agree more.  Our first one now is October 2021, so will make a decision by July when balance is due.  £50pp loss is not going to be a problem.

[purplesea]

We intend to have the vaccine when it is available to us. Hubby is 78, so is fairly high up the list, whereas I'm nearer the bottom at 63.  My four of my children are more likely to get it before me.

[philred]

surely it is a no brainer to have the vaccine when it is offered .regardless of how many cruises we all have or may have booked.just wish the wife and myself were further up the list .

[Windsurfboy]

We are going to have vaccine, 69 and 71,  but no cruises booked till 2022 we were playing safe took refund as cash. Won't be booking  now for 2021 , not because of Covid,  but having not booked doubt if we could get cabin we want suites have gone.  

[kevcharben]

we will both be having it (both 63) so will have to wait.

We have booked for May so hopefully will be all done before then.

 

Anyone got thoughts on whether the P&O or any others will say you have to have had the vaccine (Certainly in the short term) before you can cruise.

[bobstheboy]

I am 74, wife is 62. We will both have it ASAP. Hope to cruise in August 2021 and Feb 2022 (Iona)

 

Stay safe everyone and so pleased you are recovering Graham.

[hollyjess]

In reply to post regarding whether P.O. will want all passengers vaccinated. I think they will require proof of vaccination otherwise no point if some passengers are not protected and could take the virus onboard.

[Adawn47]

I'm 73, Frank 75 and we will be front and centre when our turn comes for the vaccine. We both have some underlying health conditions, but not as bad as many. I'll admit that we have a couple of cruises booked for 2021, June and October, but the main reason is that we just want to live again. We have been in a state of limbo for over 9 months now and just existing from day to day. It's time to safely step out into the world again and be thankful for the efforts of the wonderful scientists. I'll willingly be a guinea pig, because I'm sick of being a hibernating bear.

Avril

 

[grapau27]

1 hour ago, bobstheboy said:

I am 74, wife is 62. We will both have it ASAP. Hope to cruise in August 2021 and Feb 2022 (Iona)

 

Stay safe everyone and so pleased you are recovering Graham.

Thanks I appreciate your post bobstheboy.

Graham.

[wowzz]

2 hours ago, hollyjess said:

In reply to post regarding whether P.O. will want all passengers vaccinated. I think they will require proof of vaccination otherwise no point if some passengers are not protected and could take the virus onboard.

But, at present, it appears the vaccine only stops the effects of CV19,  so even if you have been vaccinated you can still take the virus onboard. 

[Chrisdriving]

8 hours ago, wowzz said:

But, at present, it appears the vaccine only stops the effects of CV19,  so even if you have been vaccinated you can still take the virus onboard. 

Correct and no way can i see vaccination being a condition of travel at least to lower risk groups which we are both in for a virus that the vast majority easily get over without issue.

Edited November 23, 2020 by Chrisdriving

[davecttr]

6 minutes ago, Chrisdriving said:

Correct and no way can i see vaccination being a condition of travel at least to lower risk groups which we are both in for a virus that the vast majority easily get over without issue.

That vast majority does not include the high risk part of the population that has a large increased risk of a bad outcome but form a high percentage of cruise passengers. Ignore that group and you can continue scrapping ships and cancelling new builds.

 

Of course younger age groups need a vaccination to cruise if can be proved that vaccines reduce the risk of you infecting others.

 

Saga has a commercial advantage here, you have to be over 55? to get on the ship 😁

[jaydee6969]

29 minutes ago, davecttr said:

 

Saga has a commercial advantage here, you have to be over 55? to get on the ship 😁

 

Not quite.  Over 50, but your companion can be younger but over 40.

Edited November 23, 2020 by jaydee6969

[jaydee6969]

12 minutes ago, jaydee6969 said:

 

 

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[davecttr]

So the Oxford vaccine results are out - 70% effective 😟

 

Then they report that part of the test group were given a half dose followed by a full dose rather than two full doses. This group indicated a 90% effectiveness 😕

[Adawn47]

1 minute ago, davecttr said:

So the Oxford vaccine results are out - 70% effective 😟

 

Then they report that part of the test group were given a half dose followed by a full dose rather than two full doses. This group indicated a 90% effectiveness 😕

Even at 70% it has the same effectiveness as the flu vaccine, and let's be honest, no vaccine is 100%. So 90% is good news I would have thought.

Avril

[davecttr]

Yes I agree, even 70% is good but I worry about how the press report it and that people will insist on having the 'best' vaccine or they won't have one at all. The gov have ordered 50 million doses of the 95% vaccines, enough for everyone aged 60 and over plus high risk groups etc.

[davecttr]

14 minutes ago, Adawn47 said:

Even at 70% it has the same effectiveness as the flu vaccine, and let's be honest, no vaccine is 100%. So 90% is good news I would have thought.

Avril

Just found this on another forum

• One dosing regimen was shown to be 90% effective, the other 62%

• It was shown to work in different age groups, including the elderly

• The vaccine can be stored, transported and handled at 2-8 degrees Celsius for at least eight months

So the 70% effectiveness was an average. with the 90% effectiveness our 100 million ordered doses should be enough for 66 million million people rather than 50 million, we can vaccinate everybody, including your budgie 😁

[Adawn47]

14 minutes ago, davecttr said:

Yes I agree, even 70% is good but I worry about how the press report it and that people will insist on having the 'best' vaccine or they won't have one at all. The gov have ordered 50 million doses of the 95% vaccines, enough for everyone aged 60 and over plus high risk groups etc.

One of the biggest and most dangerous things all through this pandemic has been the media. Each one covers the same stories and comes up with their own version of the truth depending on their political colour. They will edit interviews and pictures to suit their own agenda. Bad news sells. I prefer to go straight to the horse's mouth and listen to the briefings.

Avril

[bobstheboy]

Fantastic news re the Oxford vaccine. Looking forward to my cruises in August and the following February. Bring it on !

[davecttr]

more info, apparently none of the vaccinated test group had to be hospitalised or died so it might behave like the flu vaccine, which I heard can reduce the disease severity even if you catch it.