Daisi Posted May 21 #3276 Share Posted May 21 (edited) Wow...this is really sad. Just read a report on the Hungarian paper that the missing are the boat's owner, his sister, their 19 yr. old neighbour and her boyfriend (who had proposed on the boat according to his friend), and friends. So tragic. Edited May 21 by Daisi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canal archive Posted May 22 #3277 Share Posted May 22 I’ve been trolling through the information on line as to the current owner of the assumed perpetrator of this horrendous accident and it now looks like Nico Cruises are no longer the owners I have sneaking suspicion that Nico cruises were the operator and Mystic Invest Holdings of Portugal the owners. I’m not paying for full interest in the Marine information so someone who does may get further. Still an horrendous incident so so sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted May 22 #3278 Share Posted May 22 I have put a bit of info in the Danube thread. After some digging I gave up on figuring out the current info on the ship. Nicko Cruises gave the ship up with the end of the season in 2022. Nicko Cruises was never the owner, it was a long term charter with Nicko branding. notamermaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted May 22 #3279 Share Posted May 22 In the Danube thread I wrote: quote "It appears that Nicko Cruises is not running the MS Heidelberg this year. I guess it is a different, perhaps only part-season, charter by someone else. The company offering the MS Heidelberg for charter is this one: https://www.starlingfleet.com/en/our-fleet/ " end quote When I click on the link it does not work, i.e. some host message comes up. Odd. Perhaps it works with you from a different country. notamermaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canal archive Posted May 22 #3280 Share Posted May 22 mysticinvest.com is the website of the company that owned MS Heidelberg they look like a well established Portuguese travel company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted May 22 Author #3281 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, Canal archive said: mysticinvest.com is the website of the company that owned MS Heidelberg they look like a well established Portuguese travel company. I believe this is the company that used to have a monopoly on building and staffing river ships on the Douro, and which has now started the Atlas Ocean Voyages expedition cruise line. I didn't know they had river activities outside Portugal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted May 22 #3282 Share Posted May 22 Mysticinvest is the company that took over the Nicko Cruises brand after the collapse: https://www.pluta.net/en/press/press-release/restructuring-expert-mr-michael-pluta-sells-nicko-cruises-to-mystic-invest.html This may or may not mean that the ship was with Nicko Cruises. Ships often belong to some one else, like is the case with the Scylla ships sailing for various companies. It is a curious case with the ship. As noted by "swiss ships" the KFGS* Heidelberg was deleted from the Swiss register, they give the date as 28.3.2024. https://www.swiss-ships.ch/news/news.html That would almost coincide with the sailing from Köln-Niehl harbour to Budapest (or further) and the change of livery noted in a photo from 1 April. According to the news reports the ship was on an itinerary with passengers, I presume a return trip Engelhartszell. Something that happens often with German cruise lines these days. But it is not clear what the nationality of the passengers is. The ship is due to arrive at Engelhartszell during the night. *KFGS is Kabinenfahrgastschiff, the official German word for a river cruise ship. None of that explains why on earth the tragedy happened. I just find it interesting to note the recent history of the ship. notamermaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare gnome12 Posted May 23 #3283 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, notamermaid said: None of that explains why on earth the tragedy happened. I just find it interesting to note the recent history of the ship. I am speculating but if what we heard is true, young people celebrating a proposal, I assume that there was alcohol involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted May 23 Author #3284 Share Posted May 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canal archive Posted May 23 #3285 Share Posted May 23 Snap I tried but my so called computer skills are woefully inadequate. Although let’s not apportion blame yet - dark night, small boat/large boat and high water not the best of situations - sat in the cabin toasting a happy event, there but for the grace of your God put a less manoeuvrable cruise ship in the mix and this happens so very very sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted May 23 #3286 Share Posted May 23 On 5/20/2024 at 9:10 PM, notamermaid said: It is not clear which charter it is, I could not find any info on that. However, the ship is listed as being part of the Starling Fleet: https://www.starlingfleet.com/en/our-fleet/ The website did not work yesterday, now it is back. Hey, presto, the Heidelberg is no longer listed. In the Danube thread we have had more conversation - the MS Heidelberg appears to have been sold to the Chinese. A comprehensive report from Hungary: https://hungarytoday.hu/fatal-collision-between-speedboat-and-hotel-boat-on-the-danube/ German news says that another body has been recovered. notamermaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare gnome12 Posted May 23 #3287 Share Posted May 23 12 minutes ago, notamermaid said: The website did not work yesterday, now it is back. Hey, presto, the Heidelberg is no longer listed. In the Danube thread we have had more conversation - the MS Heidelberg appears to have been sold to the Chinese. A comprehensive report from Hungary: https://hungarytoday.hu/fatal-collision-between-speedboat-and-hotel-boat-on-the-danube/ German news says that another body has been recovered. notamermaid I must say that the damage to the hull looks to be much higher than I would expect in a collision with a speedboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canal archive Posted May 23 #3288 Share Posted May 23 If I remember correctly some time before covid struck several companies were looking to provide Chinese only cruises not the boats actually being sold to Chinese companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pontac Posted May 24 #3289 Share Posted May 24 13 hours ago, Canal archive said: were looking to provide Chinese only cruises Viking already had Long Ships cruising that catered to Chinese guests. We passed one and the Cruise Director told me it had a Chinese speaking staff, Chines food was served and tour guides spoke Chinese. I know Viking advertise different boats and dates in the US to the UK, they may do in Australia, Canada and they do in China - but I don't know how regularly the Chinese boats cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted May 24 #3290 Share Posted May 24 On 1/14/2024 at 3:33 PM, CPT Trips said: … I just discovered that I spelled dagnabbit wrong. Just for fun - https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-long-linguistic-journey-to-dagnabbit?utm_medium=email&utm_source=pocket_hits&utm_campaign=POCKET_HITS-EN-DAILY-RECS-2024_05_24&sponsored=0&position=10&category=fascinating_stories&scheduled_corpus_item_id=a7ab6fcb-0881-4cf2-b83c-694856fa726c&url=https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-long-linguistic-journey-to-dagnabbit 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted May 24 Author #3291 Share Posted May 24 On 1/14/2024 at 3:33 PM, CPT Trips said: … I just discovered that I spelled dagnabbit wrong. Thank you for the linguistic explanation in the post above. Since I first heard it from the 'lips' of Yosemite Sam, I always assumed it was another Warner Bros. Cartoon misspelling designed to relate to their cartoon characters' names [in this case, Bugs Bunny] – similar to the cartoon title Duck Amuck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDVIK2016 Posted May 25 #3292 Share Posted May 25 Although they don't qualify as river cruising, the attached photos do at least contain moving water (some rushing, some nearly stagnant) and a boat for a short ride. Branching off of the Isar River is the Eisbach and right next to the Haus der Kunst at the southernmost end of the Englischer Garten you can watch the surfers! Much calmer waters at Nymphenburg and Schleißheim palaces are a good spot for a ride in a Venetian gondola. These photos are from 10 days ago. RDVIK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDVIK2016 Posted May 25 #3293 Share Posted May 25 (edited) Another river - no "Hotelschiff" here, but a sightseeing boat on the Salzach River in Salzburg two weeks ago. Water current was quite strong as you can see, but the little boats could handle it. RDVIK Edited May 25 by RDVIK2016 Tried to attach videos. Didn't work. Replaced videos with still photos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canal archive Posted May 25 #3294 Share Posted May 25 Looks like riding the Bore on the River Severn mini version. Gondola’s seem to pop up in the strangest places. Super photos and the theme through a lot of photos and webcams at the moment is the sheer speed of the river flow, shows how much water has been dumped across Europe. One month it’s lack and the next excess, where did that quote come from ‘water, water, everywhere and not a drop to drink? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jpalbny Posted May 25 #3295 Share Posted May 25 4 hours ago, Canal archive said: where did that quote come from ‘water, water, everywhere and not a drop to drink? "The Rime of the Ancient Mariner" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canal archive Posted May 25 #3296 Share Posted May 25 Thank you brain now back in gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPT Trips Posted May 25 #3297 Share Posted May 25 Waka on the Avon River Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canal archive Posted May 25 #3298 Share Posted May 25 CPT which Avon river? In the U.K. we have I think at last count 7 rivers and half of a canal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare gnome12 Posted May 25 #3299 Share Posted May 25 22 minutes ago, Canal archive said: CPT which Avon river? In the U.K. we have I think at last count 7 rivers and half of a canal. And we have one here in Ontario as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted May 25 #3300 Share Posted May 25 Interesting sightseeing boats and water sports about. On the Rhine we have the typical excursion boats. Talking of boats and ships. On Lake Constance you still get the great old steam ships and one that was deliberately sunk a group of enthusiasts is trying to raise from the lake bed. That body of water is DEEP... The ship is called the "Säntis". Basically, the Lake is one giant dumping ground/graveyard for ships and boats of many shapes and sizes. https://www.iamexpat.ch/lifestyle/lifestyle-news/130-year-old-swiss-steamship-be-raised-bottom-lake-constance notamermaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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