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 from the P&O website bottom of page....LINK

 

 

When we return to sailing unfortunately we will be unable to accept guests who have the following medical requirements:
  • Supplementary oxygen (including via oxygen concentrator)
  • Mechanical ventilatory support (except for overnight CPAP for sleep apnoea)
  • Dialysis
  • Within the 14 days prior to the cruise:
    • Have been unwell with confirmed or suspected COVID-19
    • Have been in close contact with someone with confirmed or suspected COVID-19
    • Have been advised to self-isolate under a government Test and Trace system

We are so sorry to have to make this change, but we need to follow new industry procedures for the protection of everyone on board. Any guest that is impacted by the requirement for supplementary oxygen, mechanical ventilatory support or dialysis will be given a full refund of monies paid to date for their bookings.

 

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Agree with he first three. They demand alot of care for the medical/nursing staff and can get sick quick & often. 

 

Certainly agree with the Covid clauses but that does prove difficult for holidaying health care staff who deal with Covid cases (although wearing PPE). They will have been innoculted presumably (I have had first dose).

 

Hopefully there will be little community Covid-19 about as the vaccine will have been given to most requiring it by then. 

 

I suspect this we will updated in the Spring/Summer when hopefully the vaccine will cover alot of the community and there are options available for people not on the current lists to purcase the vaccine prior to a cruise. Not sure what will happen to children though as doubt any have been tested on them yet. Likewise pregnant women.

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Well the last 3 are a given, if you are isolating or quarantining due to a Covid diagnosis or exposure you shouldn’t be going to the grocery store, let alone going on a cruise. Isolating or quarantining means stay home.

 

the first two make a lot of sense. They are facing the reality that it will be impossible to keep Covid completely off the ships for the foreseeable future and are trying to keep the most high risk people off who would be needing an ICU or have greatest risk of death.

 

I would whole heartedly expect this to be adopted by all cruise lines. It’s pretty generous. Think they could also exclude many more people that are high risk and have chosen not to.

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Yes Cunard have issued the same email / notification,  so it is possibly a Carnival ‘action’. 

I think it is likely that other cruise lines will follow.

There is also one about linking travelling groups so that dining bubbles can be accommodated. The number in the bubble depends on the U.K. restrictions in place at the time of sailing.

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I've no issue with any of these requirements. Unfortunately, the situations described under the 4th bullet are the most worrisome from the perspective of virus transmission, yet are based entirely on passengers' honesty and willingness to declare.

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8 hours ago, downsmead said:

Yes Cunard have issued the same email / notification,  so it is possibly a Carnival ‘action’. 

I think it is likely that other cruise lines will follow.

There is also one about linking travelling groups so that dining bubbles can be accommodated. The number in the bubble depends on the U.K. restrictions in place at the time of sailing.

I guess as you say if Cunard are taking this action the Carnival group will follow 

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I have no issue with the requirements and I expect all ships will have them, at least for some time.  I certainly feel for the people this excludes.  But let's be honest, if you have those conditions you should really not be boarding a ship in the foreseeable future, for your own sake if nothing else.  And yes, it is your life and your body, but critically ill people onboard could easily adversely impact the entire cruise so it is more than a matter of someone willing to take a risk.

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52 minutes ago, cangelmd said:

They let people on before requiring mechanical ventilation?!

What about ambulatory peritoneal dialysis? Granted those folk shouldn’t cruise right now, but should be able later...

What the heck is that? And no, that’s kind of a ‘rhetorical’ question that I don’t think any of us could possibly answer. 

 

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The new guidance makes sense.  We will, however, still have to deal with those lying on their health questionnaires.   A good example is the man who lied and then boarded a United Airlines flight with his wife.   Both knew he probably had COVID and was having trouble breathing.   He died shortly after take off but not before potentially spreading the virus to the 150+ other passengers.

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4 minutes ago, Covepointcruiser said:

The new guidance makes sense.  We will, however, still have to deal with those lying on their health questionnaires.   A good example is the man who lied and then boarded a United Airlines flight with his wife.   Both knew he probably had COVID and was having trouble breathing.   He died shortly after take off but not before potentially spreading the virus to the 150+ other passengers.

and the couple that did the same going to Hawaii...

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28 minutes ago, Covepointcruiser said:

The new guidance makes sense.  We will, however, still have to deal with those lying on their health questionnaires.   A good example is the man who lied and then boarded a United Airlines flight with his wife.   Both knew he probably had COVID and was having trouble breathing.   He died shortly after take off but not before potentially spreading the virus to the 150+ other passengers.

Has this been confirmed now? CDC, up until this morning, had not concluded, saying he “potentially” had Covid. Personally, I wouldn’t trust peoples’ “honesty”. Proof of vaccines a must.

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