Will ships be stopped from sailing from British ports before 17th May?

[ace2542]

11 hours ago, wowzz said:

Seems reasonable. 

I can't imagine the P&O marketing team allowing the newest flag ship to go first. If anything goes wrong,  it would be a PR disaster.

But,  letting the second best ship lead the way seems reasonable. Good publicity,  but an old ship, so no damage to the brand, if things go Pete Tong.   

But the flagship Britannia can handle the first sailings better then the smaller vessels and be more flexible in how they work things out and help to more accurately nail everything down for the rest of the fleet?

[wowzz]

1 minute ago, ace2542 said:

But the flagship Britannia can handle the first sailings better then the smaller vessels and be more flexible in how they work things out and help to more accurately nail everything down for the rest of the fleet?

I thought Iona was now the flagship, so yes, let Britannia sail first, so if things do go wrong, the reputation of the flag ship will not be sullied.

[ace2542]

2 minutes ago, wowzz said:

I thought Iona was now the flagship, so yes, let Britannia sail first, so if things do go wrong, the reputation of the flag ship will not be sullied.

But both have room to play with so to speak to fine tune everything?

[Snow Hill]

On 2/24/2021 at 9:32 AM, jeanlyon said:

It would be interesting to know how many colds there were this year.  Nobody I know has had a cold.  We don't tend to get them anyway, but would be interesting.

The social distancing will have reduced the number of colds, as it has with flu, less contact with people less ability to transmit.

[AnnieC]

On 2/24/2021 at 9:32 AM, jeanlyon said:

It would be interesting to know how many colds there were this year.  Nobody I know has had a cold.  We don't tend to get them anyway, but would be interesting.

I had one last year, long after the advent of covid restrictions, which I put it down to a funeral I attended five days before the first symptoms, but that's a longer than usual incubation period. Other than that, I didn't set foot outside the door, so it must have dropped by through an open window.

 

I do wonder if our immune systems are now long overdue for a good workout.

Edited February 25, 2021 by AnnieC

[SarahHben]

I had a cold mid December, caught it off my daughter who works in retail, she caught a cold while her shop was still open . She is/was fastidious about her mask wearing and hand washing, her only unprotected area was her eyes and she had a few customers who wore their masks under their nose, on their chin and one who removed their mask to sneeze!

Trouble is when I get a cold it hangs around for ages and often ends in a bout of bronchitis, laryngitis  or something similar, sometimes makes me ill for 3 months at a time. This time I was no where near as unwell but was coughing and congested for 6 weeks.

[Josy1953]

On 2/24/2021 at 9:32 AM, jeanlyon said:

It would be interesting to know how many colds there were this year.  Nobody I know has had a cold.  We don't tend to get them anyway, but would be interesting.

We have been talking about this recently because neither of us have had a cold this winter.  I think it is down to the lockdown stopping us socialising.

[terrierjohn]

4 hours ago, Selbourne said:

Given that the UK press has had no choice but to reluctantly concede that the vaccine rollout has been a huge success, I should think that they will be like hawks waiting to report on any ex-UK cruise that develops problems, regardless of which ship it is! That’s why I think it’s a brave move for whichever operator decides to be the first to depart from our shores, certainly until they have vaccinated all the crew and insist on all passengers having proof of being vaccinated. 

Well let's hope that vaccine passports do become standard, and maybe cruise ship foreign national crew could be give the vaccinations currently being administered to convicted criminals.

[Britboys]

18 hours ago, joeecco said:

This is scheduled for the end of Feb I think I recall Moley saying. Maybe she’ll start moving in the next few days. She was only booked into Newcastle until the end of Feb too I believe. 

The Port of Tyne website currently lists Azura's ETD as 1159 on 31st May...

[joeecco]

11 minutes ago, Britboys said:

The Port of Tyne website currently lists Azura's ETD as 1159 on 31st May...

It may well do, as I said that’s what was said around a month ago. 

[Britboys]

1 minute ago, joeecco said:

It may well do, as I said that’s what was said around a month ago. 

Sorry, obviously missed that.

[Scriv]

2 hours ago, Britboys said:

The Port of Tyne website currently lists Azura's ETD as 1159 on 31st May...

She is supposed to be in Valletta on 10 June for my 2 week cruise to Croatia and Greece. What's the betting, she isn't? 

[tring]

5 hours ago, AnnieC said:

I had one last year, long after the advent of covid restrictions, which I put it down to a funeral I attended five days before the first symptoms, but that's a longer than usual incubation period. Other than that, I didn't set foot outside the door, so it must have dropped by through an open window.

 

I do wonder if our immune systems are now long overdue for a good workout.

 

I have had a bit of a sniffle and have sneezed occasionally over the last few days.  We fill in the symptom checker app and I was asked to get a covid test, which they do for research purposes even if you do not have the classic symptoms, though you do not have to do so.  I went for one though as did DH (they also say household members can be tested as well - again no compulsion).  Mine came back negative and DH had a "could not read results", so has been re tested today.  He is highly unlikely to be positive though as no symptoms of anything.  

 

I would not really call it a cold as was so slight, but I do like your thought it may have dropped by through a window, not that it is really a open window time of year 🙂   We have only been out for walks, keeping well away from everyone with the occasional shop, which I rarely partake in, as I do not have a driving licence because of a health issue and we only shop at quiet times.  I could have touched something, perhaps an item of post, or putting away shopping.

[yorkshirephil]

8 minutes ago, tring said:

I do like your thought it may have dropped by through a window, not that it is really a open window time of year 🙂   

I opened the window and inflew enza

[Britboys]

1 hour ago, Scriv said:

She is supposed to be in Valletta on 10 June for my 2 week cruise to Croatia and Greece. What's the betting, she isn't? 

Sadly for you, that's not looking very likely...😥

[Scriv]

On 2/25/2021 at 6:48 PM, Britboys said:

Sadly for you, that's not looking very likely...😥

Hi Andrew... Yes, I agree completely. Just waiting to hear officially now that it has been cancelled.

[Windsurfboy]

At moment ONS says cases are around 1 in 150 but that's 2 weeks ago.

 

Read that by May 17th they expect it to be down to 1 in 1000 which is in line with current 15% a week reduction. 

 

This is to high for ships to sail without some mitigation. 

 

Testing with lateral flow tests could reduce it by only half as it misses low viral loads. To 1 in 2000

 

Having vaccinated  passengers reduces it by a quarter as ir reduces transmission by 75%. Coupled with testing reduces it to 1 in 8000

 

Will these case be noticed , given half are asymptomatic then it reduces to 1 in 16000.

 

This seems high,  almost certainty  if P&O sailed all it ships there would be one case even with vaccination and testing.  

 

Small lines like Saga have a better statistical chance. One case in 16 ssilings

 

But can't see them taking risk until  Autumn when cases should be lower

 

So for a big ship a high certainly will h

[terrierjohn]

4 hours ago, Windsurfboy said:

At moment ONS says cases are around 1 in 150 but that's 2 weeks ago.

 

Read that by May 17th they expect it to be down to 1 in 1000 which is in line with current 15% a week reduction. 

 

This is to high for ships to sail without some mitigation. 

 

Testing with lateral flow tests could reduce it by only half as it misses low viral loads. To 1 in 2000

 

Having vaccinated  passengers reduces it by a quarter as ir reduces transmission by 75%. Coupled with testing reduces it to 1 in 8000

 

Will these case be noticed , given half are asymptomatic then it reduces to 1 in 16000.

 

This seems high,  almost certainty  if P&O sailed all it ships there would be one case even with vaccination and testing.  

 

Small lines like Saga have a better statistical chance. One case in 16 ssilings

 

But can't see them taking risk until  Autumn when cases should be lower

 

So for a big ship a high certainly will h

Do bear in mind that statistics only give an average indication of what could happen, there is no certainty that for every 16,000 people gathered in one location one will be infected  with covid.