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5 hours ago, AF-1 said:

Silver Sweethearts, The Gov of Hawaii says he won't allow waiver of fully vaccinated people from the mainland to visit Oahu without negative covid test.  His Lt. Gov doesn't agree.  His reasoning is; we don't have a lot of hospitals to handle an influx of covid cases on the island.  The Bahamas is smaller than Oahu, fewer hospitals, and they are allowing fully vaccinated people from the US to visit island without a covid test.  Just curious as to why a foreign island allows people and our own state does not.  Thats it.  I know every state has its right to make its own rules regardless of what the President or CDC says.  

Your last sentence pretty much sums it up.  A Governor has to make decisions about what is best for the area he/she governs.  The Bahamas have a population of about 389,000 to think about.  The population of just Oahu alone is over 950,000.  A new influx of Covid cases could indeed overwhelm us.  

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19 hours ago, Silver Sweethearts said:

Your last sentence pretty much sums it up.  A Governor has to make decisions about what is best for the area he/she governs.  The Bahamas have a population of about 389,000 to think about.  The population of just Oahu alone is over 950,000.  A new influx of Covid cases could indeed overwhelm us.  

yea, your right.  I don't blame the gov;  I still have three weeks to see if he changes his mind.  I arrive on 3 Jun.  I am prepared to get my covid test at Walgreens and press on

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On 5/2/2021 at 8:23 AM, AF-1 said:

Silver Sweethearts, The Gov of Hawaii says he won't allow waiver of fully vaccinated people from the mainland to visit Oahu without negative covid test.  His Lt. Gov doesn't agree.

 

On 5/2/2021 at 1:53 PM, Silver Sweethearts said:

Your last sentence pretty much sums it up.  A Governor has to make decisions about what is best for the area he/she governs.

 

Hawaii's Lt. Governor is Dr. Josh Green, a medical doctor who first came to Hawaii when he was working for the National Health Service. Ige should be listening to Dr. Green. Ige's leadership through the pandemic response has been atrocious.

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scottca075;  wow I did not know those details.  I have to agree with you regarding why the Gov doesn't listen to his health experts.  

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We just returned a week ago to Portland Oregon from Kona.  There is a lot of confusion regarding Walgreens testing. They are all different and use different labs.  The test has to be a PCR test. Not all can get them back in two hours and many say 3-5 days.  Of course we could not wait. For a Sat am flight we got 0900 tests on Thur am. Those results still were not back by 1600 on Fri. Our daughter used a different Walgreens and she did not have results either.   We we’re getting very nervous so ran out to the airport where Carbon Health was doing the rapid PCR for 170$ ea. As luck would have it those Walgreen results showed just after we returned home. Of course we were double negative. 
 

We were on Hawaiian Air and only transited the Maui airport in both directions. We had everything here checked by the airline and were processed here.  We were given bands to wear making us good to go to get us into Kona. Everything was fully processed and cleared in Kona. 
 FYI those lines are long in Maui.  We had to have two QR code’s which were uploaded to Hawaii Safe travels. After those were checked we were given final clearance which you need for everything.  It is easiest on the phone.  They did not simply want the photo of the QR code.  Since we had copies of our vaccination certificates they did not require a second test on arrival in Kona since it had been two weeks from the last dose. Many were in line for second tests. 
 

We are scheduled to visit two island (Kauai and Maui in Sept). After dealing with this once we are going to keep it to one island. It is just too stressful for us having to make appointments and worry about getting results in time. 
 

We saw a group of three ladies who had flown to Maui from Oahu who did not have results back yet. We literally heard them tell them they had to go into quarantine at their own expense or return to Oahu.  You cannot quarantine just anywhere. Specific places.  One lady we talked to in Kona didn’t realize she needed a second test after being on Oahu. They immediately escorted her to a motel, gave her a room with no key so she could not leave and she of course had to pay.  She had to wait for results from that test. 
 

It’s all quite confusing doing this for the first time with Covid travel. Internet is not the best in the airport for retrieving info. Seems like not all employees know what they are doing. 
 

We’re grateful that Hawaii is very strict. It makes us feel better flying.  Just do your research.  Our Walgreens were free even though they took insurance info. We also just did one yesterday after flying home. It’s been 27 hrs and we do not have results yet. At least we do not have to sweat it out!

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mauimary;  thanks for the tips.  I have a friend on Oahu now;  he went to the local Walgreens and got his test.  He said he got email back with results in 40 min.  He uploaded to Safe travels and received his QR code immediately.  Once he landed on Oahu and his QR code was scanned it went from grey to green.  He needed the green code to check into his hotel.  I leave in three weeks and will going to the same walgreens;  which is a mile from my house.  I have already spoke with them and they said I will get my results back within an hour after the test.  So cross fingers it all goes smooth.  Oh I have ten family members going with me.  

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3 hours ago, AF-1 said:

mauimary;  thanks for the tips.  I have a friend on Oahu now;  he went to the local Walgreens and got his test.  He said he got email back with results in 40 min.  He uploaded to Safe travels and received his QR code immediately.  Once he landed on Oahu and his QR code was scanned it went from grey to green.  He needed the green code to check into his hotel.  I leave in three weeks and will going to the same walgreens;  which is a mile from my house.  I have already spoke with them and they said I will get my results back within an hour after the test.  So cross fingers it all goes smooth.  Oh I have ten family members going with me.  

AF-1 your lucky that your Walgreens is getting the tests back so quickly.  Not all of them do. Definitely can’t count on it.  Now if anyone can tell us where in Portland OR we can get such a quick return we would be grateful.  We had to spend $170 ea.
 At least Portland is the last place for leaving the Mainland so it gives us a little more leeway than other places back east.    The time ends after your last stop.   We also had friends nearly time out after a cancelled flight and had to fly to Seattle to connect. This Covid testing and timing is stressful at least for us. 

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7 hours ago, mauimary said:

 .    The time ends after your last stop.   We also had friends nearly time out after a cancelled flight and had to fly to Seattle to connect. This Covid testing and timing is stressful at least for us. 

Not sure what you are saying here. Your test must be within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of the flight that lands in Hawaii. Delayed flight doesn't affect that timing. A connecting flight from, say, Chicago, doesn't affect that. The number that matters is the original scheduled departure time of the flight that actually lands in Hawaii.

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3 hours ago, CruiserBruce said:

Not sure what you are saying here. Your test must be within 72 hours of the scheduled departure time of the flight that lands in Hawaii. Delayed flight doesn't affect that timing. A connecting flight from, say, Chicago, doesn't affect that. The number that matters is the original scheduled departure time of the flight that actually lands in Hawaii.

It’s actually your last point of departure from the mainland. Not the origination of your flight.  It must be from Seattle, LA San Francisco or wherever your final leg is. A delayed flight from your origination could have an effect if it causes you to miss your flight.  

  • The test must be administered no more than 72 hours prior to the scheduled departure time of the final leg to Hawaii

We are probably saying the same thing in a different way.  The key is not to have a seriously delayed flight somewhere that causes you to miss your connecting.   Our friends had a canceled flight (0900) with mechanical in Portland that caused them to have to fly to Seattle. They had to sit around until 1p and nearly timed out. 

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Since my local Walgreens will return my test in less than an hour;  I will be getting my test 48 hrs prior;  to my departure out of DFW on 3 Jun.  I will be taking my covid test 10am on 1 Jun

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27 minutes ago, mauimary said:

It’s actually your last point of departure from the mainland. Not the origination of your flight.  It must be from Seattle, LA San Francisco or wherever your final leg is. A delayed flight from your origination could have an effect if it causes you to miss your flight.  

  • The test must be administered no more than 72 hours prior to the scheduled departure time of the final leg to Hawaii

We are probably saying the same thing in a different way.  The key is not to have a seriously delayed flight somewhere that causes you to miss your connecting.   Our friends had a canceled flight (0900) with mechanical in Portland that caused them to have to fly to Seattle. They had to sit around until 1p and nearly timed out. 

You are saying the same thing I am. The "last leg" is the flight that lands in Hawaii! It can be the origination of the flight (such as SFO-OGG) or it can be the connecting flight, such as DEN-SFO-OGG.

 

If you have a mechanical problem, and you are re-routed, I don't think that changes anything. It depends on the "scheduled flight departure" you put in Safe Travels when you created the record.

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