Three bills just introduced to repeal and reform the PVSA

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19 hours ago, Fouremco said:

You are free to limit your posts to the introduction of the bills, should you choose to do so, but the rest of us are following the OP's lead when he very clearly asks about the chances of bills' passage in post #1:

 

I think you have fumbled the football again.

 

 

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17 hours ago, JamieLogical said:

 

Well, he's not wrong. The idea behind the bill was to protect US workers, but it hasn't actually done that, now has it? We have one ship from one major cruise line that was "built" in the US. It actually wasn't built in the US and it took an act of congress to get it certified as such. None of the major cruise lines employ any significant number of Americans onboard. None  of the major cruise lines are flagged in the US. So the current law is definitely not helping support the US economy and American workers. By at least removing the restrictions, cruises (which are already sailing anyway with non-US flags and non-US crew) could at least stop in more US ports and boost the economies of those port cities.

Actually the law protects many workers in the US. It applies to far more than just large cruise ships such as  ferries, tour boats, charters, etc basically any commercial passenger boat carrying over 12 people.

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On 6/11/2021 at 9:01 AM, twodjs said:

 

The Pride of America is the ONLY large U.S. flagged cruise ship and is in compliance with the PVSA, not an exception to the rule. However, because it is subject to U.S. taxes and U.S. wages, the price for an Alaska cruise would increase significantly. And without a casino on board, a major income stream is lost. So probably not a profitable option for NCL.

The lack of a casino onboarding the Pride is due to Hawaii state law, nothing to do with US law. Since the Pride sails solely in the state of Hawaii.

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On 6/10/2021 at 6:23 PM, AbbyCruiser45 said:

Very interesting, would be neat to see considering they have momentum. Hopefully he can get a co-sponsor from a coastal state that would actually benefit from this. I’m not sure Utah has a lot to gain lol 

It is funny that the bills are written by a senator from Utah.  Still, if any reform of PVSA is to pass, we must welcome support from both coastal and non-coastal states alike.  I hope at least one of the bills attracts strong support from across the aisle, as bipartisan support is needed more than regional support.

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5 hours ago, NMTraveller said:

The advantages of these bills are many fold.  They would multiply the money brought in at cruise ports and create many more along the east and west coasts.   I would do an all USA East coast cruise or all USA west coast cruise.  You could also go to Alaska and have an extra day there.  More cruise ships in Hawaii circling the islands and going back and forth.  A great boost to our economy.

 

I would also enjoy cruising our east and west coasts; there are delightful ports that are rarely included on itineraries.  Also, I think gulf coast cruises could be great fun and a boost to local economies for cities that wish to welcome the ships.  I can easily imagine one way cruises between Northeastern/mid Atlantic US ports and Florida ports (Northerners cruise down, enjoy Disney or whatever, fly back…or the reverse…or catch the next cruise back if you have more time…Floridians doing the opposite, visiting NYC, etc).  

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6 hours ago, Starry Eyes said:

I would also enjoy cruising our east and west coasts; there are delightful ports that are rarely included on itineraries.  Also, I think gulf coast cruises could be great fun and a boost to local economies for cities that wish to welcome the ships.  I can easily imagine one way cruises between Northeastern/mid Atlantic US ports and Florida ports (Northerners cruise down, enjoy Disney or whatever, fly back…or the reverse…or catch the next cruise back if you have more time…Floridians doing the opposite, visiting NYC, etc).  

I would do a USA only gulf coast cruise also.  I suppose that they also could have Alaska only cruises where you fly into Alaska and fly out.

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13 hours ago, NMTraveller said:

I would do a USA only gulf coast cruise also.  I suppose that they also could have Alaska only cruises where you fly into Alaska and fly out.

Oh, good point about Alaska only cruises.  Without a Canada requirement, they could potentially ask to visit different communities and sites not currently on the cruise ship routes.  Much as I enjoy the inside passage, there is surely more to see and experience.  

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On 6/11/2021 at 11:52 AM, Charles4515 said:

 

They voted for an exception because of unusual circumstances that has a termination date. You are dreaming if you think that the politicians are going to do the same for a permenent change. 

They didn't actually vote on ATRA. It passed the House without objection and the Senate by unanimous consent. All this means is that no one bothered to object to the bill's passage. There is no way Sen. Lee's proposals slide through that easily. He's still drumming up support for this, long way to go and not clear it is going anywhere fast.

 

Sen. Lee's floor speech.