BRWolf Posted August 2, 2021 #26 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Looking forward to our March 2023 sailing on this ship. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted August 2, 2021 #27 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Thanks for posting, hopefully one day we'll do a cruise on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted August 2, 2021 #28 Share Posted August 2, 2021 ~Love the way 'Ryndam' on the bow section morphs into Rotterdam! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir PMP Posted August 2, 2021 #29 Share Posted August 2, 2021 8 hours ago, aliaschief said: OK, I’m a little confused here and have been for many years on your post here on CC? Every Hal ship has a casino so why do you cruise Holland America? Or do you just enjoy rattling our Hal CC members? No problem just curious? Seriously, why do you continue to cruise on ships you dislike? First of all this website is called Cruise CRITICS not cruise ship lovers, second I don't mind a casino at all, I just don't want to be on a ship that is built like a Vegas casino! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted August 2, 2021 Author #30 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Sir PMP said: First of all this website is called Cruise CRITICS not cruise ship lovers, second I don't mind a casino at all, I just don't want to be on a ship that is built like a Vegas casino! Gotcha!👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted August 2, 2021 #31 Share Posted August 2, 2021 15 hours ago, aliaschief said: She’s a beauty. You Tube release could be an Ad. Very Nice! Thanks for posting this video 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida_gal_50 Posted August 2, 2021 #32 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Another absolutely gorgeous pinnacle ship. Thanks for posting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare david,Mississauga Posted August 2, 2021 #33 Share Posted August 2, 2021 12 hours ago, Sir PMP said: Why? Because i prefer ocean liners over Casino 'ships'.. Thank you, Sir PMP, for having the courage to admit this on the this forum. I learned many years ago that many of the HAL fans on Cruise Critic have no tolerance for anyone whose tastes are different from what may be described as the most popular. Just say you are not a fan of over-amplified blues and see the insults you will get. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted August 2, 2021 #34 Share Posted August 2, 2021 The Club Orange Dining Room looks a lot classier than the other two Pinnacle Class Club Dining Room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaCruiser72 Posted August 2, 2021 #35 Share Posted August 2, 2021 The only negative reaction I have to this video is that it is too short and doesn't show enough of the ship :) The Pinnacle class vessels are not going to be for everyone, but I like the design/aesthetic of them. When I think back to some of the VERY questionable design/fabric/carpet choices that were made when the S/R and Vista class vessels were launched I have to say the newest ships are far more sophisticated, cohesive and elegant, if indeed more modern. Do they have the extensive antiques and the paintings by Stephen Card prominently placed throughout the vessel? No, but that is not what these ships are about from a design standpoint. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofbite Posted August 2, 2021 #36 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Do you think all those pictures are real? Some of them look computer generated to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudscraper Posted August 2, 2021 #37 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Looks beautiful. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudscraper Posted August 2, 2021 #38 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Looks beautiful. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybear Posted August 2, 2021 #39 Share Posted August 2, 2021 17 hours ago, Nodakboiler said: Hopefully the third time is the charm- we were booked on the “first” maiden voyage 5/15/21, then the “second” on 8/1/21, and hoping the “third” on 10/20/21 will be a go! Good luck! We gave up after the first two tries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted August 2, 2021 Author #40 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 hours ago, david,Mississauga said: Thank you, Sir PMP, for having the courage to admit this on the this forum. I learned many years ago that many of the HAL fans on Cruise Critic have no tolerance for anyone whose tastes are different from what may be described as the most popular. Just say you are not a fan of over-amplified blues and see the insults you will get. I already knew he didn’t like the Pinnacle Class ships. I just was puzzled with the Casino statement. Now I know it’s decor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted August 2, 2021 Author #41 Share Posted August 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, AtlantaCruiser72 said: The only negative reaction I have to this video is that it is too short and doesn't show enough of the ship 🙂 The Pinnacle class vessels are not going to be for everyone, but I like the design/aesthetic of them. When I think back to some of the VERY questionable design/fabric/carpet choices that were made when the S/R and Vista class vessels were launched I have to say the newest ships are far more sophisticated, cohesive and elegant, if indeed more modern. Do they have the extensive antiques and the paintings by Stephen Card prominently placed throughout the vessel? No, but that is not what these ships are about from a design standpoint. When Seth Wayne and Stan Kruppen were doing their monthly status reports they stated some of the old Rotterdam artifact/art were retained. So maybe upon a more detailed tour they may be present? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaCruiser72 Posted August 2, 2021 #42 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, aliaschief said: When Seth Wayne and Stan Kruppen were doing their monthly status reports they stated some of the old Rotterdam artifact/art were retained. So maybe upon a more detailed tour they may be present? They may very well be, but the vast majority of art on the Pinnacle class ships has been commissioned from contemporary artists and is more modern. It is also possible we may see of the art from Rotterdam/Amsterdam that was retained by HAL installed on future newbuilds or retrofitted onto existing vessels. It will be interesting to see what the reality is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientWanderer Posted August 2, 2021 #43 Share Posted August 2, 2021 What a gorgeous ship! The chandeliers are beautiful Only thing I'd change is the MDR is too bright for my taste. I don't like "bright" at dinner. But stunning ship. And @Sir PMP, I don't think it has any Las Vegas about it. Some ships do. To me they did a great job of hitting a "transitional" tone -- old school elements presented in a modern way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted August 2, 2021 Author #44 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, AtlantaCruiser72 said: They may very well be, but the vast majority of art on the Pinnacle class ships has been commissioned from contemporary artists and is more modern. It is also possible we may see of the art from Rotterdam/Amsterdam that was retained by HAL installed on future newbuilds or retrofitted onto existing vessels. It will be interesting to see what the reality is. I was not a big fan of the art on the Koningsdam but still really liked the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Dragon Posted August 2, 2021 #45 Share Posted August 2, 2021 It’s a modern ship and should reflect that, but the Rotterdam is the flagship. I certainly hope they have artwork or something to highlight the long history of the Rotterdam and HAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Copper10-8 Posted August 2, 2021 #46 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Thanks for posting Bruce. Nice vid! It does appear they got rid of the big TV screen/the "virtual bridge" at the front of the Crow's Nest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliaschief Posted August 2, 2021 Author #47 Share Posted August 2, 2021 28 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said: Thanks for posting Bruce. Nice vid! It does appear they got rid of the big TV screen/the "virtual bridge" at the front of the Crow's Nest I believe Stan Kruppen stated there were over 500 design changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gail & Marty sailing away Posted August 2, 2021 #48 Share Posted August 2, 2021 53 minutes ago, aliaschief said: I was not a big fan of the art on the Koningsdam but still really liked the ship. So do I, as well as the N.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leerathje Posted August 3, 2021 #49 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Thanks for this @aliaschief. She's beautiful! L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkpon Posted August 3, 2021 #50 Share Posted August 3, 2021 There is a good video tour on YouTube of Rotterdam VI now Fred Olsen’s Borealis. It looks like she has had quite a big refurbishment with a lot of the original artwork gone. Hopefully that artwork is now on Rotterdam VII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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