Is Carnival Cancelling?

[Neals6]

Did anyone notice on Carnival's website that you cannot book a cruise out of Charleston until June 2022? I am booked for Jan. 31st 2022 and I usually go and check the prices. Do you think that it will be cancelled? I just wanted to get someone else's opinion.

[crewsweeper]

If you're booked you should see your cruise in your cruise planner.  But I see lots of cruises out of Charleston for January and beyond.

 

Cruise Search | Find Cruises for 2021-2024 | Carnival Cruise Line

[Neals6]

I have checked other websites and Carnival cruises are on there. When I try to check Carnival's website they don't come up.

[fuddrules]

My cruise out of London in June is not showing up.  I'm sure it's Carnival doing updates or a snafu.  It's quite common w/them.

[jsglow]

Again guys, prepare yourself for the slow roll out of the fleet. Demand for 22 ships just isn't there.  This is exactly how they cancelled things back in the Spring of 2021 as the start-up got delayed.

 

In my view, everyone should be skeptical of their cruise until their ship actually has their inaugural restart cruise.  Once they sail 'em, they certainly don't want the bad press associated with shutting 'em down.  Right now there's 11.  By next week it's 13. 

[kelkel2]

If you’re searching on the website for a cruise and you’re getting the oops message, know that it’s happening frequently. I was just searching to do a mock booking for my 1/2023 MG cruise and it keeps randomly doing that. So fingers crossed! 

[fuddrules]

22 minutes ago, jsglow said:

Again guys, prepare yourself for the slow roll out of the fleet. Demand for 22 ships just isn't there.  This is exactly how they cancelled things back in the Spring of 2021 as the start-up got delayed.

 

In my view, everyone should be skeptical of their cruise until their ship actually has their inaugural restart cruise.  Once they sail 'em, they certainly don't want the bad press associated with shutting 'em down.  Right now there's 11.  By next week it's 13. 

 

Only Australia and two cruises out of Port Canaveral are showing for June 2022.  I guarantee you Carnival hasn't cancelled all other cruises in June.  

Edited October 6, 2021 by fuddrules

[groundloop]

1 hour ago, Neals6 said:

Did anyone notice on Carnival's website that you cannot book a cruise out of Charleston until June 2022? I am booked for Jan. 31st 2022 and I usually go and check the prices. Do you think that it will be cancelled? I just wanted to get someone else's opinion.

 

I just looked, cruises out of Charleston are shown for sale beginning in January 2022.  

[jsglow]

41 minutes ago, fuddrules said:

 

Only Australia and two cruises out of Port Canaveral are showing for June 2022.  I guarantee you Carnival hasn't cancelled all other cruises in June.  

Totally agree.  And so it can absolutely be a website issue.  But when cancellations happened in the past, the boats simply 'went away' for booking and CCL initially claimed 'full because of Covid'.  That never turned out to be true.

[V_V]

1 hour ago, Neals6 said:

Did anyone notice on Carnival's website that you cannot book a cruise out of Charleston until June 2022? I am booked for Jan. 31st 2022 and I usually go and check the prices. Do you think that it will be cancelled? I just wanted to get someone else's opinion.

 

Maybe it was a hiccup because I was able to go through the steps of booking a Jan 2022 cruise from Charleston.

[BlerkOne]

2 hours ago, jsglow said:

Again guys, prepare yourself for the slow roll out of the fleet. Demand for 22 ships just isn't there.  This is exactly how they cancelled things back in the Spring of 2021 as the start-up got delayed.

 

In my view, everyone should be skeptical of their cruise until their ship actually has their inaugural restart cruise.  Once they sail 'em, they certainly don't want the bad press associated with shutting 'em down.  Right now there's 11.  By next week it's 13. 

I dunno. I think demand is there, and Carnival is getting two more ships than they were expecting - another huge LNG ship, and also Costa Magica by mid-2022. I'm expecting a dance of the ships to accommodate.

[groundloop]

I just read that John Heald says he'll be making announcements in the next few days about which ships will be restarting in the next couple of months.  That should hopefully clear up just a little bit of confusion.

[jsglow]

1 hour ago, BlerkOne said:

I dunno. I think demand is there, and Carnival is getting two more ships than they were expecting - another huge LNG ship, and also Costa Magica by mid-2022. I'm expecting a dance of the ships to accommodate.

Longer term I agree with you.  Just not right now with Delta, masks, 2 day testing.  We had 2135 on Horizon last week.  And it was CHEAP.  Like cheapest practically ever.  Right now they can't fill 'em.  January might be a totally different story.  and by the time LNG and Costa show up.... Heck, that's long term strategic stuff compared to next week.

[BlerkOne]

26 minutes ago, jsglow said:

Longer term I agree with you.  Just not right now with Delta, masks, 2 day testing.  We had 2135 on Horizon last week.  And it was CHEAP.  Like cheapest practically ever.  Right now they can't fill 'em.  January might be a totally different story.  and by the time LNG and Costa show up.... Heck, that's long term strategic stuff compared to next week.

Carnival is not losing money on the current sailings - they have positive cash flow. Security in the casino enforcing new smoking policy and sip and cover. Nobody got up and walked out. There will always be yahoos who push the limit - like the idiots smoking on the balcony a few doors down. A gentle, and very loud reminder that there is a $500 fine for smoking in the cabins/balconies got them to put the coals out. We are a lot closer to the new normal than some realize.

[jsglow]

8 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

Carnival is not losing money on the current sailings - they have positive cash flow. Security in the casino enforcing new smoking policy and sip and cover. Nobody got up and walked out. There will always be yahoos who push the limit - like the idiots smoking on the balcony a few doors down. A gentle, and very loud reminder that there is a $500 fine for smoking in the cabins/balconies got them to put the coals out. We are a lot closer to the new normal than some realize.

Blerk, I never said they were losing money on the 11 ships that are sailing. You are correct; those ships are cash flowing.  I said that the number of weekly berths that they can profitably offer is limited by demand.  Which is EXACTLY why they will be careful in their relaunching of ships and use demand as their guide.

[BlerkOne]

I think Carnival is proving they can give cabins away (except port taxes and fees), and still make a profit on those sailings. I think what they need to be most careful about is not breaking the fragile supply chain more than it already is. If you lower the prices enough, people will sail - that has been proven - but the infrastructure also has to exist to support those sailings - and that is as slow, if not slower, than restarting cruising.