dad son team Posted November 30, 2021 #76 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Funny this is here today and I am having an issue with this. My son's GF is very concerned now and is hesitant to go on our January cruise. I paid for it as their Christmas present and since its only a 3nt cruise I declined the insurance. Does anyone know of a company that will insure a trip after final payment in case she decides to bail? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted November 30, 2021 #77 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, sanger727 said: This is more of the people who have stuck their heads in the sand for the last two years… ‘NCL says they will sail in august’, ‘ no, really, my pvp knows everything and we will be sailing in September’, ‘the vaccine rules expire in December’, etc ... "everyone onboard is vaccinated" Edited November 30, 2021 by BermudaBound2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanger727 Posted November 30, 2021 #78 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, dad son team said: Funny this is here today and I am having an issue with this. My son's GF is very concerned now and is hesitant to go on our January cruise. I paid for it as their Christmas present and since its only a 3nt cruise I declined the insurance. Does anyone know of a company that will insure a trip after final payment in case she decides to bail? there are lots of companies that will insure after final payment. But if she just ‘decides to bail’ You willl need cancel for any reason insurance. That has to be bought within 1-2 weeks of originally booking the trip. Edited November 30, 2021 by sanger727 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mking8288 Posted November 30, 2021 #79 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) Nearly 2 years before most of the world recognized the global pandemic of this generation was upon us ... the cruise industry, like others, has been to the foothills of hell and doing nearly all they can to recover, get back to the new normal - ships began sailing again and crew members returning onboard. IMHO, anyone booking a cruise these days should and need to take some personal responsibilities, assume due diligence and understood the risks involved to be prepared for it. It's sort of like playing the slot machines and/or table games, place your bets, buy insurance to cover your (partial) losses if you are given the option to pull back, and then move forward. Hence, I disagree with the saying that NCL should let anyone booked to cancel with no penalty and no question asks, regardless. Sorry to disagree with some - we have a cruise booked coming up soon, knowing that a winter surge from Delta or whatever variant could reset the goal posts again, we have trip insurance for our "investment" but still in that window to cancel without any penalty. With all the infection control and detection measures in place, I feel pretty comfortable to not worry about other viruses being around, not absolutely but nasty things like norovirus outbreak onboard should be less of a problem, hopefully. We will be packing our EDC bag with enough PPE, especially 3-ply masks and some KN95 and KF94 masks, hand sanitizers and surface wipes to use as we see fit ... those aren't banned or required, optional measures that we can choose to deploy or implement as extra protective measures. NCL is probably one of the best cruise lines to sail with its proactive steps, aligned with CDC and WHO guidance, and common sense best practices, proven to work in the medical & healthcare sectors ... not absolute foolproof but with a high degree of confidence. The rest is up to us, faith and a little bit of luck ... a prayer won't hurt either. Breakthrough infections have and will happen to some, most had mild to moderate symptoms that can be treated - even if you casually wear a N95 most of the time, the average person aren't properly fit tested for using the properly sized respirator and not trained on how to put on, remove & properly dispose of ... red bag the soiled items safely. And, I quote here - "Your best protection against (insert/replace with name of next/new variant ... as you wish) Delta is to get vaccinated, and if you've already been vaccinated and six months have passed since you got Pfizer or Moderna, get your booster, two months since J&J, get your booster," This is valid and true for the new and next variant. But, if someone is going to cheat and fake it, or simply don't believe in doing some, any and all of these measures - then ... one is rolling the dices. Happy planning, stay healthy and safe cruising ... ours coming up soon. If one isn't comfortable, then cancel it outside the 61 days+ payment deadline set and extended by NCL thru next April's sailings - as an insured cruiser. Edited November 30, 2021 by mking8288 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgdawg Posted November 30, 2021 #80 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Several countries are shutting their borders in response to the Omicron variant. What happens if this trend continues? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted November 30, 2021 #81 Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 7:18 AM, SpainAlien said: I don't agree that Norwegian are making it as safe as they could after all they have no masks required and no social distancing I wouldn't choose to cruise where masks are required. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruizinKittie40 Posted November 30, 2021 Author #82 Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 12:28 PM, craig01020 said: Sounds more like agoraphobia than cruising. lol no I just don't like being around people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruizinKittie40 Posted November 30, 2021 Author #83 Share Posted November 30, 2021 19 hours ago, craig01020 said: Can we just go back to talking about chair hogs or gratuities? But this is WAY more fun. I knew this would get you guys riled up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Crazy For Cats Posted November 30, 2021 #84 Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 8:43 AM, SpainAlien said: The same as they did in Europe. I am not saying I would like to see them do it but they COULD insist on mask wearing and social distancing like they did in Europe, that would make it safer. As I said before, I am fine with it as it is BUT it could be safer There policy of not wearing a mask is why I’m giving them a try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseMH Posted November 30, 2021 #85 Share Posted November 30, 2021 6 hours ago, bstel said: I hope this is a typo on your part. if you are wearing a N95 or equivalent you are definitely also protecting others. Sometimes it would be better to read again before hitting the "submit" button,especially when its late(it was after midnight local time) You are right of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseMH Posted November 30, 2021 #86 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 hours ago, dawgdawg said: Several countries are shutting their borders in response to the Omicron variant. What happens if this trend continues? The past 20 months have showed that closing borders does not help at all to avoid the new variant spreading around. At the time the borders are closed the virus has already arrived at most countries. When you detect the first case in your countries there are already hundreds or thousands of others infected which you don`t know at that time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exgman Posted November 30, 2021 #87 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Crazy For Cats said: There policy of not wearing a mask is why I’m giving them a try. Thats what got us to NCL too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruizinKittie40 Posted December 1, 2021 Author #88 Share Posted December 1, 2021 13 hours ago, exgman said: Thats what got us to NCL too. Be careful with that. We were on Epic in October and had to wear masks on the ship due to European protocols. It will depend on where you are going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillygwm Posted December 1, 2021 #89 Share Posted December 1, 2021 20 hours ago, ColeThornton said: It's absolutely fine. Just temper one's concerns with some common sense and personal responsibility. Exactly. OP was on here asking for a refund before even the experts know what Omicron is about. Is it more transmissible but less lethal? Maybe. But the strain has been studied for only a couple weeks; there are not a lot of cases (yet) and there are still a lot of unknowns. Turn off the cable news channels that are filling hours of content with little more than conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruizinKittie40 Posted December 1, 2021 Author #90 Share Posted December 1, 2021 53 minutes ago, phillygwm said: there are still a lot of unknowns. Exactly my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middleager Posted December 1, 2021 #91 Share Posted December 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, CruizinKittie40 said: Exactly my point There are always unknowns. You want full refund every time there is some new unknown, even after full payment, a few days before sailing? There will always be new variants and new unknowns. You knew that. Should everyone be allowed full refunds every time some new variant, some news, some unknowns, comes up? Can any business run this way? BTW, we're sailing in a few days, Dec. 5. We know there are risks and unknowns, and changing rules (Canada just announced new rules, and many countries, and new changes will continue to come). We bought medical insurance. We know we can lose a lot if things go bad. We took the risk. We did not ask NCL for something unreasonable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillygwm Posted December 1, 2021 #92 Share Posted December 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, CruizinKittie40 said: Exactly my point So, there might be a terrorist attack between now and when we sail. I can't say for sure if it would happen, or if it might affect us, but it's possible. Should we get a refund because of that possibility? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruizinKittie40 Posted December 1, 2021 Author #93 Share Posted December 1, 2021 If this goes into effect they may not have a choice https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/30/omicron-stricter-travel-rules-us-entry/?utm_source=reddit.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruizinKittie40 Posted December 1, 2021 Author #94 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Middleager said: You want full refund I didn't say I wanted a full refund. In my OP I stated I would be happy with FCC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlevin Posted December 1, 2021 #95 Share Posted December 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, CruizinKittie40 said: If this goes into effect they may not have a choice https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/30/omicron-stricter-travel-rules-us-entry/?utm_source=reddit.com If that goes into effect god help us all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CptBoatface Posted December 1, 2021 #96 Share Posted December 1, 2021 There WAS a terrorist attack last week in the US. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted December 1, 2021 #97 Share Posted December 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, CruizinKittie40 said: If this goes into effect they may not have a choice https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/11/30/omicron-stricter-travel-rules-us-entry/?utm_source=reddit.com What part of this article leads you to believe it will effect NCL cruises departing from the USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad101 Posted December 1, 2021 #98 Share Posted December 1, 2021 17 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said: What part of this article leads you to believe it will effect NCL cruises departing from the USA? It doesn’t necessarily have to. There are lots of us, including myself that are travelling from out of country to cruise this winter. If the institute a 7 day quarantine on arrival, 90% of us will have to cancel our vacations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted December 1, 2021 #99 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Just now, Chad101 said: It doesn’t necessarily have to. There are lots of us, including myself that are travelling from out of country to cruise this winter. If the institute a 7 day quarantine on arrival, 90% of us will have to cancel our vacations. I agree, this will effect international travelers but I thought the OP was from the USA (I could very well be wrong on that). FWIT, the article reads like fear mongering to me. Since Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post I don't give it much creditability as he has much to gain personally from an article like this. Let's wait and see how much of this article actually comes to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad101 Posted December 1, 2021 #100 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said: I agree, this will effect international travelers but I thought the OP was from the USA (I could very well be wrong on that). FWIT, the article reads like fear mongering to me. Since Jeff Bezos bought the Washington Post I don't give it much creditability as he has much to gain personally from an article like this. Let's wait and see how much of this article actually comes to fruition. I would 100% agree that it’s fear mongering at this point, no one will know anything about the variant for awhile yet. I do hope they don’t institute the quarantine as this is my first cruise in a decade and it’s my wife’s first ever. With any luck if they do change things maybe they will revise them quickly again before our trip at the end of December. Just makes a person a little edgy to possibly lose out when you’re not scared of the virus already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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