Sir PMP Posted April 27, 2022 #26 Share Posted April 27, 2022 17 hours ago, fabric_fabric said: A standard nightlight cannot be used in the bathroom outlet. Just bring a flashlight. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedneckBob Posted April 27, 2022 #27 Share Posted April 27, 2022 What is your cabin number ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linguist208 Posted April 27, 2022 #28 Share Posted April 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Alfisti said: The CO on Rotterdam is definitely worth it! Also Sony, Lee, Anne, and Franco are the BEST on board! I couldn't agree more! Sony ("Last name Playstation," he said to us) was super attentive, and Lee was just amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted April 27, 2022 #29 Share Posted April 27, 2022 10 hours ago, Linguist208 said: Just curious... where is this stated? I see people say this here a lot, but no one from HAL ever mentioned it. If I hadn't seen it here, we could have easily propped our balcony door open every night. In addition to Kazu's reply, letting you know specifically where HAL 'states' it, there is a former ships' engineer who has posted many times exactly how the HVAC system works, and what happens when the balcony door is left open. That. along with the sign on the door, is more than good enough for me. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare poinsettiaplate Posted April 28, 2022 #30 Share Posted April 28, 2022 With the new ventilation and HVAC systems which every cruise line is supposed to have installed on every ship due to COVID, each cabin should be a self-contained unit as far as its air goes. Nobody should be sharing air anymore. If HAL got by without doing this, let me know and I will be looking for another cruise line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccole Posted April 28, 2022 #31 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, poinsettiaplate said: With the new ventilation and HVAC systems which every cruise line is supposed to have installed on every ship due to COVID, each cabin should be a self-contained unit as far as its air goes. Nobody should be sharing air anymore. If HAL got by without doing this, let me know and I will be looking for another cruise line. thank you for this reply. It has been said for soooooo many years that getting fresh air into you cabin is something that no one should even think of doing. I do not even reserve a hotel room that does not have a balcony or windows that open. Possibly someone with current knowledge can say whether leaving your balcony door open to get fresh air affects everyone else on the ship. I am addicted to fresh air no matter the outside temp. And I understand that there are many on this forum who would not want to be on the same cruise as me. Hoping that someone can clear up this discussion. Possibly it is different depending on the ship? Cherie Edited April 28, 2022 by cccole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutDiver Posted April 28, 2022 #32 Share Posted April 28, 2022 3 hours ago, cccole said: thank you for this reply. It has been said for soooooo many years that getting fresh air into you cabin is something that no one should even think of doing. I do not even reserve a hotel room that does not have a balcony or windows that open. Possibly someone with current knowledge can say whether leaving your balcony door open to get fresh air affects everyone else on the ship. I am addicted to fresh air no matter the outside temp. And I understand that there are many on this forum who would not want to be on the same cruise as me. Hoping that someone can clear up this discussion. Possibly it is different depending on the ship? Cherie Leaving the balcony door open may put stress on the ship’s heating and cooling systems. The celebrity edge has the infinite verandas. You can leave the top half window open into the cabin, but the air gets shutoff. I have heard that the ship will shut off air to true balcony cabins if the door tothe balcony is unlocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccole Posted April 28, 2022 #33 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Thank you ScoutDiver, I do like rooms where the air shuts off automatically when the outside door or window is open. I think I have seen photos of those infinite verandas, beautiful. Cherie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare poinsettiaplate Posted April 28, 2022 #34 Share Posted April 28, 2022 Cherie; I just got off Celebrity Silhouette, an older Celebrity ship that had been updated. The signs on the balcony doors about not leaving them open have been removed. Several different places, we were told how to leave our balcony doors open. I took this to mean that Celebrity, indeed, has made all their cabins self-contained as far as ventilation and HVAC goes, as the CDC wanted. The AC did not go off with the balcony door open. I have asked my TA to query HAL on this and will let you know if they have done some or all of their ships as they should have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisetrekker Posted April 28, 2022 #35 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) Could you tell me who the current captain is onboard the Rotterdam ? Edited April 28, 2022 by Cruisetrekker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCTribeFan Posted April 28, 2022 #36 Share Posted April 28, 2022 I've booked the Rotterdam TA for next April. What is the charge to add Club Orange? I need to check my booking and see what cabin I have (it's an interior). I most definitely do NOT want heavy vibration for two weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiting2retire Posted April 29, 2022 #37 Share Posted April 29, 2022 On 4/28/2022 at 1:48 PM, Cruisetrekker said: Could you tell me who the current captain is onboard the Rotterdam ? it is Captain Timmers but he will be leaving the ship in Amsterdam on Sunday. Not sure who the next Captain will be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiting2retire Posted April 29, 2022 #38 Share Posted April 29, 2022 On 4/28/2022 at 5:14 PM, NCTribeFan said: I've booked the Rotterdam TA for next April. What is the charge to add Club Orange? I need to check my booking and see what cabin I have (it's an interior). I most definitely do NOT want heavy vibration for two weeks! I believe the cost of Club Orange depends on the length of the cruise or some other random criteria. For our 21 day TA it cost $15/pp/pd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare poinsettiaplate Posted May 2, 2022 #39 Share Posted May 2, 2022 On 4/28/2022 at 1:49 AM, ScoutDiver said: Leaving the balcony door open may put stress on the ship’s heating and cooling systems. The celebrity edge has the infinite verandas. You can leave the top half window open into the cabin, but the air gets shutoff. I have heard that the ship will shut off air to true balcony cabins if the door tothe balcony is unlocked. On 4/28/2022 at 1:10 PM, poinsettiaplate said: Cherie; I just got off Celebrity Silhouette, an older Celebrity ship that had been updated. The signs on the balcony doors about not leaving them open have been removed. Several different places, we were told how to leave our balcony doors open. I took this to mean that Celebrity, indeed, has made all their cabins self-contained as far as ventilation and HVAC goes, as the CDC wanted. The AC did not go off with the balcony door open. I have asked my TA to query HAL on this and will let you know if they have done some or all of their ships as they should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare poinsettiaplate Posted May 2, 2022 #40 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Hello Cherie: This is the response from our Holland rep... As part of our COVID-19 protocols onboard all of our ships, we’ve implemented air management and ventilation strategies to maximize the use of outside, fresh air and the air exchange rate on board in public areas and suites. Where feasible, we utilize enhanced filters and other technologies to mitigate risk. Current evidence shows that fresh air is effective in reducing the concentration of airborne contaminants, including viruses. Our HVAC system updates are designed to create 10 air changes per hour on our vessels. We have also increased the ship air conditioning system filtration standard to F7 filters (MERV 13), which are finer mesh filters and highly effective in filtering out airborne particles and viruses. In areas where F7 filtration cannot be installed due to technical limitations, portable HEPA filtration units and ultraviolet light (UV) have been installed. Kind regards, JENNY VERNA Note that she did not answer the question: Are the cabins now self-contained units as far as HVAC goes. Her answer is good for what they are doing in the public areas. Like you, I will continue to open my balcony door while I am in my cabin and close it when I leave. I always turn off the AC when possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartgrove Posted May 2, 2022 #41 Share Posted May 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, poinsettiaplate said: Hello Cherie: This is the response from our Holland rep... As part of our COVID-19 protocols onboard all of our ships, we’ve implemented air management and ventilation strategies to maximize the use of outside, fresh air and the air exchange rate on board in public areas and suites. Where feasible, we utilize enhanced filters and other technologies to mitigate risk. Current evidence shows that fresh air is effective in reducing the concentration of airborne contaminants, including viruses. Our HVAC system updates are designed to create 10 air changes per hour on our vessels. We have also increased the ship air conditioning system filtration standard to F7 filters (MERV 13), which are finer mesh filters and highly effective in filtering out airborne particles and viruses. In areas where F7 filtration cannot be installed due to technical limitations, portable HEPA filtration units and ultraviolet light (UV) have been installed. Kind regards, JENNY VERNA Note that she did not answer the question: Are the cabins now self-contained units as far as HVAC goes. Her answer is good for what they are doing in the public areas. Like you, I will continue to open my balcony door while I am in my cabin and close it when I leave. I always turn off the AC when possible. I believe she did answer your question, but used different verbiage. The only cruise line that claims to have self-contained HVAC systems for individual staterooms is Virgin Ocean. There is no requirement for what you are asking about. The cruise lines have increased the filtration level and raised the number of air changes per minute. The airlines did essentially the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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