luv2travel90266 Posted December 3, 2022 Author #101 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Very average house wines but superior to the included Azamara branded wines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemewithyou Posted December 3, 2022 #102 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I wonder if the selection of wines to purchase by the bottle is any improvement? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
federalexpress Posted December 3, 2022 #103 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Stem to Stern said: When asking about Ultimate Package inclusions in Discoveries last night on board Onward I was presented with this menu…. (Hopefully photo loads.) Any recommendations for the reds? Mmmm. Tough to actually recommend anything on there. If you like Pinot, the Estancia is probably the best of a pretty 'meh' bunch. That new group sommelier can't arrive soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
federalexpress Posted December 3, 2022 #104 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Stem to Stern said: When asking about Ultimate Package inclusions in Discoveries last night on board Onward I was presented with this menu…. (Hopefully photo loads.) Any recommendations for the reds? Mmmm. Tough to actually recommend anything on there. If you like Pinot, the Estancia is probably the best of a pretty 'meh' bunch. That new group sommelier can't arrive soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM0115 Posted December 3, 2022 #105 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, uktog said: No champagne on Onward for the Ultimate package only Veuve de Verve sparkling wine No champagne?!? 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv2travel90266 Posted December 3, 2022 Author #106 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Still on Azamara’ website ” CORKAGE POLICY Azamara® offers a wide selection of international liquors, beer and fine wines onboard. You may bring your own favorite liquor, beer or wine for private consumption in your suite or stateroom. If you wish to consume your liquor, beer or wine in any shipboard restaurant, bar or dining venue, each bottle is subject to a corkage fee of $10.” I have heard some have been charged higher corkage. Hopefully management is honoring what is published. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
federalexpress Posted December 3, 2022 #107 Share Posted December 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Pizzasteve said: A friend used to be Education VP at C St M. If lucky you folks may see their Joint venture reisling made with Dr Loosen called Eroica. Their Washington State Reisling and Cabs can be very nice. If you happen to be in Wash State, Google Joel Butler and visit his wine shop. Among Americas most distinguished MWs. Maybe Azamara’s team will read this and consult with him. Would be happy to make an intro. Easy flight from So Cal for a VC team junket trip. I'd be pleasantly surprised to see Eroica on the Ultimate list but I have a hunch that isn't going to happen anytime soon, looking at what they currently put on the list. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted December 3, 2022 #108 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, federalexpress said: I'd be pleasantly surprised to see Eroica on the Ultimate list but I have a hunch that isn't going to happen anytime soon, looking at what they currently put on the list. Rather than an expensive wine celebrating Nappy's victories, we're more likely to get Château St. Helena... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted December 3, 2022 #109 Share Posted December 3, 2022 3 hours ago, takemewithyou said: I wonder if the selection of wines to purchase by the bottle is any improvement? Yes it is, but you don't get a discount with the Ultimate Package. You're best off bringing your own wine onboard; second best is buying a Connoisseur Wine Package (if you're happy with the wines available on your ship in the price range of $50-75) or just buying by the bottle to have the full selection available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takemewithyou Posted December 3, 2022 #110 Share Posted December 3, 2022 So, to be clear, the loyalty discount can be used on the purchase of the Ultimate Bev Package but not on the wine packages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted December 3, 2022 #111 Share Posted December 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, takemewithyou said: So, to be clear, the loyalty discount can be used on the purchase of the Ultimate Bev Package but not on the wine packages? Correct. Also no discount on Chef's Table. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv2travel90266 Posted December 3, 2022 Author #112 Share Posted December 3, 2022 One note I didn’t realize on my last cruise was the chefs table included better paired wines that didn’t appear on the Ultimate Bev Package. As most of the cruises come on our shore intensive the only time I’m drinking alcohol is in the evening went back on the ship. Result was paying for the daily ultimate package fee, but not using it on nights at the chef table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted December 3, 2022 #113 Share Posted December 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, luv2travel90266 said: One note I didn’t realize on my last cruise was the chefs table included better paired wines that didn’t appear on the Ultimate Bev Package. As most of the cruises come on our shore intensive the only time I’m drinking alcohol is in the evening went back on the ship. Result was paying for the daily ultimate package fee, but not using it on nights at the chef table. Would have been the same for me. Also each Chef's Table is one night you don't need to buy your own wine – so subtract those nights from the number of bottles you would buy in the Connoisseur Wine Package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
federalexpress Posted December 4, 2022 #114 Share Posted December 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Host Jazzbeau said: Rather than an expensive wine celebrating Nappy's victories, we're more likely to get Château St. Helena... It sounds like you are being ironic but I must admit I've never heard of that winery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted December 4, 2022 #115 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 hours ago, federalexpress said: It sounds like you are being ironic but I must admit I've never heard of that winery. Correct. You could look it up [history of Napoleon; final exile] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norn iron Posted December 4, 2022 #116 Share Posted December 4, 2022 These are three screenshots from Vivino of the Shiraz currently being served onboard Quest. Well sourced and of good quality. I wont post the price in case it offends those who believe house wines should be expensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
federalexpress Posted December 4, 2022 #117 Share Posted December 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Host Jazzbeau said: Correct. You could look it up [history of Napoleon; final exile] Napoleon I am very familiar with, minor academic interest at school, but also did Napoleonic war gaming (don't laugh). I guess Elba just wasn't far enough.. As it happened, I did look up St Helena winery and there is one, small scale and very expensive reds not likely to be sighted any time soon on the Ultimate list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
federalexpress Posted December 4, 2022 #118 Share Posted December 4, 2022 2 hours ago, norn iron said: These are three screenshots from Vivino of the Shiraz currently being served onboard Quest. Well sourced and of good quality. I wont post the price in case it offends those who believe house wines should be expensive. Is that one of the included wines? I'd be OK with that on the Ultimate list, it's better than some showing on the most recent menu for those. It's the entry level wine of Cotarella, a very respected Italian winemaker. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norn iron Posted December 5, 2022 #119 Share Posted December 5, 2022 13 hours ago, federalexpress said: Is that one of the included wines? I'd be OK with that on the Ultimate list, it's better than some showing on the most recent menu for those. It's the entry level wine of Cotarella, a very respected Italian winemaker. Yes, its on the included list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Stem to Stern Posted December 5, 2022 #120 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) On 12/3/2022 at 9:46 AM, Stem to Stern said: When asking about Ultimate Package inclusions in Discoveries last night on board Onward I was presented with this menu…. (Hopefully photo loads.) Any recommendations for the reds? Pinot noir update: Tonight upon being seated for dinner in Discoveries I inquired about a super Tuscan I sampled the previous night while waiting in the Prime C bar to be seated. I was presented with this menu again. I chose the Estancia pinot noir. I was presented with Meiomi Pinot noir. Edited December 5, 2022 by Stem to Stern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted December 5, 2022 #121 Share Posted December 5, 2022 34 minutes ago, Stem to Stern said: Pinot noir update: Tonight upon being seated for dinner in Discoveries I inquired about a super Tuscan I sampled the previous night while waiting in the Prime C bar to be seated. I was presented with this menu again. I chose the Estancia pinot noir. I was presented with Meiomi Pinot noir. A quick internet check says Meiomi sells for more than Estancia, and my own experience is that I prefer Meiomi over Estancia. Do you agree? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
federalexpress Posted December 5, 2022 #122 Share Posted December 5, 2022 6 hours ago, norn iron said: Yes, its on the included list. Well things seem to be looking up for the included wines. You won't go too far wrong drinking that one. What I find bizarre is that it is a better wine, and quite a bit more expensive, than the Merlot on the Ultimate list that was recently posted. They know not what they do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Stem to Stern Posted December 5, 2022 #123 Share Posted December 5, 2022 8 hours ago, Host Jazzbeau said: Do you agree? Meiomi is a go-to wine at home. So when I saw that Meiomi bottle it was like I saw a long lost friend. LOL. Throughly enjoyed it throughout the evening. Learning of and trying out some new cocktail concoctions suggested by new friends on board who are seasoned cruisers and consumers.😳🤩 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Cruising Posted December 5, 2022 #124 Share Posted December 5, 2022 46 minutes ago, Stem to Stern said: Meiomi is a go-to wine at home. So when I saw that Meiomi bottle it was like I saw a long lost friend. LOL. Throughly enjoyed it throughout the evening. Learning of and trying out some new cocktail concoctions suggested by new friends on board who are seasoned cruisers and consumers.😳🤩 I tried lots of the gin & vodka cocktails on Quest last month - loved Berry Berry Gin - Gin & Chambord. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrcan Posted December 5, 2022 #125 Share Posted December 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Host Jazzbeau said: A quick internet check says Meiomi sells for more than Estancia, and my own experience is that I prefer Meiomi over Estancia. Do you agree? I haven’t tried Estancia so cannot compare. Meiomi was not really for my palate: with sugar content of 17 g/l, it tasted too syrupy. It’s just me though; in that price range, my favourite Californian Pinot Noir would be Three Thieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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