TMSA Posted August 14, 2023 #1 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Our Arvia Marseille stop for K318 has been replaced with Cartagena due to the Rugby World Cup. I was really looking forward to Marseille as I went on holiday there about 7 years ago and wanted to return. I haven't heard of Cartagena. Have we done well with the replacement, as I am presuming its not a regular P&O port, or have we been done over? 🙃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gettingwarmer Posted August 14, 2023 #2 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Cartagena is a regular P&O port. Just get off the ship and you are right there. Lovely place to walk about, go up the lift to the top and see the views. Visit the amphitheatre and other ruins. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Presto2 Posted August 14, 2023 #3 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) Love the place! I would be more than happy with this swap to be honest. We visited this port on our first PO cruise on Oceana and it stands out as one of those ports we weren't sure about but one that we enjoyed the most. Small port, close to the where the ship docks and lots to see. The amphitheatre is amazing and there are other sites to see. To us it is a port that you can enjoy just pottering around on your own. Museo del Teatro Romano de Cartagena Cartagena Puerto de Culturas Edited August 14, 2023 by Presto2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eglesbrech Posted August 14, 2023 #4 Share Posted August 14, 2023 It’s a good replacement with lots to see and do. We did a Segway tour the last time which included a visit to the underground tunnels used during the Spanish Civil war. Fascinating history. There are Roman remains, submarines, good shops, nice places to have a Sherry and people watch etc. You should have a fun day if you do a bit of forward planning. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cloudyrain Posted August 14, 2023 #5 Share Posted August 14, 2023 So much better than Marseille - it’s a great swap 🙂 P&O go there quite often in my experience. The Roman ruins and museum is just off the port and is really interesting and accessible (and not mega expensive) and the little streets are great. It’s a lovely port of you don’t want to travel far 😊 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Anarchy Posted August 14, 2023 #6 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Lovely little place Cartagena. Walk into town. Roman Amphitheatre. Lots of reasonably priced places for a drink or snack. Although we found Marseille interesting and would go back, our first choice between the two would be Cartagena. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heatherb1958 Posted August 14, 2023 #7 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Love Cartagena, been there many times with different cruiselines, last time was December last year and the weather was gorgeous. All the museums on the water front are free , the shopping area is flat and pedestrianised and best of all the ship docks right in front town. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMSA Posted August 14, 2023 Author #8 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Thank you everyone. I am embarrassed by my lack of Geography knowledge and now wondering if i have never heard of it as I a) genuinely haven't seen it on an itinerary or b) my tired brain didn't acknowledge it because i didn't know it. Marseille was going to be for nostalgic reasons but seeing as I had a week there before, i feel like i covered it pretty well. Would have just been nice to revisit. It seems to come up on most of the itineraries i look at though so I am sure I will be back. I had also already done a few of the ports and again, they seem to come up all the time so it will be nice to try somewhere else. Thank you for the tips. I'm going with two children this time so this sounds easier and to be honest, I spent most of my time in Marseille very merry on amazing wine so it was always going to be different this time. I do love a small port you can potter around. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMSA Posted August 14, 2023 Author #9 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Also, it did make me laugh as it said we would visit and then have a relaxing sea day the following day. Most of the cruise seems to be sea days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Presto2 Posted August 14, 2023 #10 Share Posted August 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, TMSA said: Thank you everyone. I am embarrassed by my lack of Geography knowledge and now wondering if i have never heard of it as I a) genuinely haven't seen it on an itinerary or b) my tired brain didn't acknowledge it because i didn't know it. Marseille was going to be for nostalgic reasons but seeing as I had a week there before, i feel like i covered it pretty well. Would have just been nice to revisit. It seems to come up on most of the itineraries i look at though so I am sure I will be back. I had also already done a few of the ports and again, they seem to come up all the time so it will be nice to try somewhere else. Thank you for the tips. I'm going with two children this time so this sounds easier and to be honest, I spent most of my time in Marseille very merry on amazing wine so it was always going to be different this time. I do love a small port you can potter around. If it makes you feel better I had to look it up to check it was the same place that we visited --- and we were sober. My excuse is age ! Have a great time 🙂 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cloudyrain Posted August 14, 2023 #11 Share Posted August 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, TMSA said: Thank you everyone. I am embarrassed by my lack of Geography knowledge and now wondering if i have never heard of it as I a) genuinely haven't seen it on an itinerary or b) my tired brain didn't acknowledge it because i didn't know it. Marseille was going to be for nostalgic reasons but seeing as I had a week there before, i feel like i covered it pretty well. Would have just been nice to revisit. It seems to come up on most of the itineraries i look at though so I am sure I will be back. I had also already done a few of the ports and again, they seem to come up all the time so it will be nice to try somewhere else. Thank you for the tips. I'm going with two children this time so this sounds easier and to be honest, I spent most of my time in Marseille very merry on amazing wine so it was always going to be different this time. I do love a small port you can potter around. My son loved the Roman ruins/amphitheater - and it’s so close and accessible for kids of all ages. They also have quite a few cool little ice cream parlours about that were a firm favourite. A bit further along there are a couple of little playgrounds which were popular. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ray Posted August 14, 2023 #12 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Really hoping there aren't too many kids on this cruise - we booked it specifically because it's the week they should be going back to school! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMSA Posted August 14, 2023 Author #13 Share Posted August 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Red Ray said: Really hoping there aren't too many kids on this cruise - we booked it specifically because it's the week they should be going back to school! I mean I only like my own. Most of the time 😉 They are preschool though so no fines this end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSPG Posted August 14, 2023 #14 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Sorry to buck the trend, and just my opinion of course but we much prefer Marseille over Cartagena. Once into town from the shuttle, much more interesting walking around the harbour with literally hundreds of boats and sailing vessels, countless waterside bars, and our favourite is the little land train (9 euros) that takes you around part of the beautiful coastline, up and down steep narrow streets, and to the top of the hill where the Basilique Notre Dame is with spectacular views across the whole of Marseilles. There’s no comparison in our opinion, sorry! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emam Posted August 14, 2023 #15 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Cartagena is a lovely place and very clean. Apart from the amphitheatre there is a roman forum which was still being excavated the last time we were there. You can buy one ticket which will give you admittance to 3 places, the theatre, I think it was the forum and the castle. If I remember rightly there is a McDonalds right in front of where you walk off the ship. Then you have a square and just over the road is the main area. There are lots of shops from Brand names to local shops. One of them being what I call the cow shop, which has a large cow standing at the door. This sells all sorts of things and can be good for gifts. It sells books and colouring pens, note books, to bags, hats, towels and lots more. There is one the same in Barcelona. There is a little shop which seems to be very popular which sells scarfs, bags and trinkets, this is not very far up from the theatre (thought you come out of there via a different door in the back street). I would like to go and visit the naval museum which was on my to do the last time we went but we never made it. 1, (hopefully) is walking off the ship and McD would be just to the left of the photo. 2, Sign for the roman forum 3, Inside the forum, 4, Main street. 5, A rich persons yacht (you should see the boat inside it), which I think docked near to naval museum. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eglesbrech Posted August 14, 2023 #16 Share Posted August 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, GSPG said: Sorry to buck the trend, and just my opinion of course but we much prefer Marseille over Cartagena. Once into town from the shuttle, much more interesting walking around the harbour with literally hundreds of boats and sailing vessels, countless waterside bars, and our favourite is the little land train (9 euros) that takes you around part of the beautiful coastline, up and down steep narrow streets, and to the top of the hill where the Basilique Notre Dame is with spectacular views across the whole of Marseilles. There’s no comparison in our opinion, sorry! I think anyone would prefer to go to the port they had actually booked and paid for, absolutely. Most of the comments are addressing making lemonade with the lemons P&O have provided. Better than a sea day and a nice replacement if there is no choice about the change which there never is! I like Marseilles but I don’t like the faffing with shuttles. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emam Posted August 14, 2023 #17 Share Posted August 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, TMSA said: They are preschool though so no fines this end. Maybe the theatre and forum will not be for them. Try the aquarium. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMSA Posted August 14, 2023 Author #18 Share Posted August 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, emam said: Cartagena is a lovely place and very clean. Apart from the amphitheatre there is a roman forum which was still being excavated the last time we were there. You can buy one ticket which will give you admittance to 3 places, the theatre, I think it was the forum and the castle. If I remember rightly there is a McDonalds right in front of where you walk off the ship. Then you have a square and just over the road is the main area. There are lots of shops from Brand names to local shops. One of them being what I call the cow shop, which has a large cow standing at the door. This sells all sorts of things and can be good for gifts. It sells books and colouring pens, note books, to bags, hats, towels and lots more. There is one the same in Barcelona. There is a little shop which seems to be very popular which sells scarfs, bags and trinkets, this is not very far up from the theatre (thought you come out of there via a different door in the back street). I would like to go and visit the naval museum which was on my to do the last time we went but we never made it. 1, (hopefully) is walking off the ship and McD would be just to the left of the photo. 2, Sign for the roman forum 3, Inside the forum, 4, Main street. 5, A rich persons yacht (you should see the boat inside it), which I think docked near to naval museum. ALE-HOP 😀. They are everywhere in Spain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMSA Posted August 14, 2023 Author #19 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, TMSA said: ALE-HOP 😀. They are everywhere in Spain And Portugal actually. Trying to think if i have seen one in France... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMSA Posted August 14, 2023 Author #20 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Here's Porto's 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSPG Posted August 14, 2023 #21 Share Posted August 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said: I think anyone would prefer to go to the port they had actually booked and paid for, absolutely. Most of the comments are addressing making lemonade with the lemons P&O have provided. Better than a sea day and a nice replacement if there is no choice about the change which there never is! I like Marseilles but I don’t like the faffing with shuttles. I don’t mind shuttles as I see these as an opportunity to see part of the country visited for a few pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Anarchy Posted August 14, 2023 #22 Share Posted August 14, 2023 25 minutes ago, emam said: 5, A rich persons yacht (you should see the boat inside it), which I think docked near to naval museum. Goes by the simple name of A. Although UK flagged, reportedly owned by a Russian oligarch. Probably explains why her last reported position was in the Maldives. Saw her about eight years ago in Croatia. We thought our charter yacht was quite fancy till we sailed around her. They were prepared to launch a rhib or two from recesses in the hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare elmsliebev Posted August 14, 2023 #23 Share Posted August 14, 2023 39 minutes ago, TMSA said: ALE-HOP 😀. They are everywhere in Spain fabulous shop, always spend far too much there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Presto2 Posted August 14, 2023 #24 Share Posted August 14, 2023 45 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said: I think anyone would prefer to go to the port they had actually booked and paid for, absolutely. Most of the comments are addressing making lemonade with the lemons P&O have provided. Better than a sea day and a nice replacement if there is no choice about the change which there never is! I like Marseilles but I don’t like the faffing with shuttles. We once booked a cruise with 2 days in Egypt. It was changed to an extra day in Israel and one in Ephesus. It made my day and the changes were perfect. That was Celebrity by the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardennais Posted August 14, 2023 #25 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Cartagena is lovely. Cartagena in Colombia is also great! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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