Do I need a birth certificate

[scher]

I thought I was told by TA that now you need Passports, Birth certificatesare not enough anymore?

[intothevoid]

You can find this on the Royal Caribbean Site.

 

U.S. Citizen Passport Requirement

 

Air Travel

 

Beginning January 23, 2007, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling by air between the United States and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean and Bermuda will be required to present a valid passport to enter (or re-enter) the United States.

 

U.S. lawful permanent residents will continue to be able to use their Alien Registration Card (Form I-551) issued by the Department of Homeland Security or other valid evidence of permanent residence status to apply for entry to the United States.

 

Cruise Travel

 

As early as January 1, 2008, subject to U.S. Government amendment, ALL persons, including U.S. citizens, traveling between the United States and Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the Caribbean, and Bermuda may be required to present a valid passport or other documents as determined by the Department of Homeland Security.

 

Until that time, the following travel document requirements apply:

 

International Travel A valid passport is required; visas are required where they apply. This includes Europe, Asia, Central and South America.Domestic Travel For domestic travel which includes: the Bahamas, Bermuda, Canada, the Caribbean and Mexico, a passport (valid or expired) is highly recommended.In the absence of a passport, a birth certificate (original or a certified copy), plus a picture ID card issued by a federal, state or local government agency is required.A voter registration card or Social Security Card are not considered to be proof of citizenship.Children under 16 years of age do not require a picture ID.

OUR RECOMMENDATION

 

Royal Caribbean International strongly recommends that all guests travel with a valid passport during their cruise. This greatly assists guests who may need to fly out of the United States to meet their ship at the next available port should they miss their scheduled embarkation in a U.S. port; guests entering the U.S. at the end of their cruise; and guests needing to fly to the U.S. before their cruise ends, because of medical, family, personal or business emergencies, missing a ship's departure from a port of call, involuntary disembarkation from a ship due to misconduct, or other reasons.

 

Guests who cruise just prior to or after January 23, 2007, who need to fly to the United States before their cruise ends will likely experience significant delays and complications related to booking airline tickets and entering the United States if they do not have a valid U.S. passport with them.

[Fritz265]

I thought I was told by TA that now you need Passports, Birth certificatesare not enough anymore?

 

Not quite yet. State Dept. pushed that regulation to 2008 to give people more time to get passports. You'll need one if you're travelling by air but not via sea.

 

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html

[scher]

Not quite yet. State Dept. pushed that regulation to 2008 to give people more time to get passports. You'll need one if you're travelling by air but not via sea.

 

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html

We are traveling to PR Do we need passports for that? I just called RCCL and they said What you just did. it was pushed back. but Now i am not sure about the air?

[Arizona Cruz Chic]

Bill, you are just the NICEST, most HELPFUL Cruise Critic!

 

You do the board proud!

 

:)

 

I'll second that!!! :)

WTG Bill great info for OP and any one else in Chicagoland & Cook Co.

 

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[S.S.Oceanlover]

Bill, you are just the NICEST, most HELPFUL Cruise Critic!

 

You do the board proud!

 

:)

 

Thanks!:o Just trying to help. Hate to see anyone miss their cruise.:)

 

I know the OP is probably running around like a chicken without his head. I just hope it all works out and they have a great relaxing cruise.

 

Bill

[Fritz265]

We are traveling to PR Do we need passports for that? I just called RCCL and they said What you just did. it was pushed back. but Now i am not sure about the air?

 

PR is a US territory so the answer would be no.

[Hlitner]

I sure hope things work out for Caddy and she gets her necessary documents in time for the cruise. But a word to the wise. Stop messing around with birth certificates and invest some money in a passport. Anyone who travels (even in the Caribbean) without a passport is taking a chance. Assume you are on a cruise and you need to leave the ship due to an emergency such as illness, death in the family, or even that the ship has to end the cruise due to a mechanical problem, Norovirus, etc. And assume that you need to fly home from a Caribbean port (not US), Mexico, or anywhere else that is outside the USA. Guess what? As of Jan 23, 2007 you will not be able to fly home without a passport. And do not kid yourselves that the government will make an exception. It can take several days of work with a US Embassy or Consulate to get an emergency passport. The bottom line is anyone leaving the USA really should have a passport.

 

Hank

[Fritz265]

I sure hope things work out for Caddy and she gets her necessary documents in time for the cruise. But a word to the wise. Stop messing around with birth certificates and invest some money in a passport. Anyone who travels (even in the Caribbean) without a passport is taking a chance. Assume you are on a cruise and you need to leave the ship due to an emergency such as illness, death in the family, or even that the ship has to end the cruise due to a mechanical problem, Norovirus, etc. And assume that you need to fly home from a Caribbean port (not US), Mexico, or anywhere else that is outside the USA. Guess what? As of Jan 23, 2007 you will not be able to fly home without a passport. And do not kid yourselves that the government will make an exception. It can take several days of work with a US Embassy or Consulate to get an emergency passport. The bottom line is anyone leaving the USA really should have a passport.

 

Hank

 

Exactly right Hank. I'm surprised that there are still folks out there travelling outside the US without a passport. The govt. has only been pushing this issue for the last three years....:rolleyes:

[S.S.Oceanlover]

Exactly right Hank. I'm surprised that there are still folks out there travelling outside the US without a passport. The govt. has only been pushing this issue for the last three years....:rolleyes:

 

and if they would have stuck to the original date and not caved in to the lobbyist everybody would have a passport and we wouldn't be having this conversation now.

 

Bill

[Fritz265]

and if they would have stuck to the original date and not caved in to the lobbyist everybody would have a passport and we wouldn't be having this conversation now.

 

Bill

 

Well, the travel industry lobbied for the TWO extensions now to allow people time to get passports but the problem is that most people won't use the time allotted to get it done and it will be a mad scramble next fall anyway. Just rip the band aid off and force everybody to do what should have been done several years ago.

[S.S.Oceanlover]

Well, the travel industry lobbied for the TWO extensions now to allow people time to get passports but the problem is that most people won't use the time allotted to get it done and it will be a mad scramble next fall anyway. Just rip the band aid off and force everybody to do what should have been done several years ago.

 

agree 100%. Procrastinators are procrastinators. When the new deadline comes in 2008 we'll be dealing with the same thing again. If you give some people an excuse not to get it they won't.

 

Bill

[Fritz265]

agree 100%. Procrastinators are procrastinators. When the new deadline comes in 2008 we'll be dealing with the same thing again. If you give some people an excuse not to get it they won't.

 

Bill

 

Hank's point was dead on though. Those travelling without a passport are SOL if they have to leave the ship for any reason (or say, miss the ship in port) and have to fly home. No re-entry.

 

US citizens hold the least amount of passports per capita than any other developed country then we complain about lack of security..:rolleyes: Yes, there's a cost involved but it's good for TEN years.

[vickiw0318]

I don't get it. Why risk trouble? Just get the passport and you'll be set to go anywhere you want to go for the next ten years. Like Fritz265 just said, what if something happens in a non-US port or (God forbid) someone gets sick and has to stay on an island or in Mexico or wherever. Caution is sometimes a good thing!

[Maxiecat3]

I sure hope things work out for Caddy and she gets her necessary documents in time for the cruise. But a word to the wise. Stop messing around with birth certificates and invest some money in a passport. Anyone who travels (even in the Caribbean) without a passport is taking a chance. Assume you are on a cruise and you need to leave the ship due to an emergency such as illness, death in the family, or even that the ship has to end the cruise due to a mechanical problem, Norovirus, etc. And assume that you need to fly home from a Caribbean port (not US), Mexico, or anywhere else that is outside the USA. Guess what? As of Jan 23, 2007 you will not be able to fly home without a passport. And do not kid yourselves that the government will make an exception. It can take several days of work with a US Embassy or Consulate to get an emergency passport. The bottom line is anyone leaving the USA really should have a passport.

 

 

 

Hank

The way I read the original OP concern is: She has a passport already but can't find it. So, knowing she can go on this cruise with a birth certificate instead, she can't find that either. Or am I reading the original post wrong?

[S.S.Oceanlover]

The way I read the original OP concern is: She has a passport already but can't find it. So, knowing she can go on this cruise with a birth certificate instead, she can't find that either. Or am I reading the original post wrong?

 

I read the same exact thing so either you have it correct or we're both wrong.;)

 

Bill

[Fritz265]

The way I read the original OP concern is: She has a passport already but can't find it. So, knowing she can go on this cruise with a birth certificate instead, she can't find that either. Or am I reading the original post wrong?

 

Right. I wasn't busting the OP's chops. Just got off on a tangent about people without passports.....;)

[EastTexans2]

If you had your passport out, to get a marriage license, is there a chance that our wife put it in a safe place?

[Maxiecat3]

Right. I wasn't busting the OP's chops. Just got off on a tangent about people without passports.....;)

Sorry for misunderstanding your intention. I agree, everybody should be buying a passport. We are leaving in May on the inaugural Liberty OTS cruise and myself DD & DS got our paasports in July. Even with the delay in needing them, we are glad we will have them just in case we have to return to the US in a hurry (my parents are 80 & 82 and I hate to think of it but you never know).Gregg

[PhoenixCruiser]

If you had your passport out, to get a marriage license, is there a chance that our wife put it in a safe place?

 

Interesting ;) ;) :D

 

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[CaddyB123]

LOL, especially considering that it is my husband!

[S.S.Oceanlover]

LOL, especially considering that it is my husband!

 

so was there any luck finding either the passport or the birth certificate or getting a new birth certificate?

 

Bill

[signman]

Caddy, thanks for updating us about your situation.

[xpcdoojk]

Bill, you are just the NICEST, most HELPFUL Cruise Critic!

 

You do the board proud!

 

:)

 

I am so hurt!!!! I thought that was my title!:eek: :(

 

jc<---- is now crying loudly in the corner:D