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Do I carry my passport with me at all times or do I leave it at the hotel when I go out? We will be in Barcelona for a few days before our cruise and I don't know what to do.

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It would be best to leave it in the hotel safe and not carry it around. Large tourist city streets are notorious for pickpockets. You should not need it in the course of a day except if you need to exchange money at a bank...they usually ask for it then.

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It would be best to leave it in the hotel safe and not carry it around. Large tourist city streets are notorious for pickpockets. You should not need it in the course of a day except if you need to exchange money at a bank...they usually ask for it then.

 

I usually bring a copy of the passports along when away from the hotel, however. We also leave a list of credit card numbers and phone numbers to call in the hotel safe, as well at home with a trusted friend/family member.

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I usually bring a copy of the passports along when away from the hotel, however. We also leave a list of credit card numbers and phone numbers to call in the hotel safe, as well at home with a trusted friend/family member.

 

Thany you for the info!

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This is a topic that leads to some spirited debates!:p Folks seem to be split down the middle on what to do. Personally if I'm on foreign soil I'm carrying it with me, but many folks advise not carrying it for fear of losing it. Guess you just have to figure out which option makes you more comfortable.

 

Have a great trip!

JHC

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FRom our experience, many European hotels will take your passport from you and lock them up until you depart. We've had this done to us in Turkey, Spain and Greece. I would never, ever take my passport with me in some European cities, and Barcelona is one. The pickpockets, and those who will rip the purse right off your shoulder or cut off your fannypack, abound there. We were told by our hotel's concierge not to even wear jewelry when touring the city as the robbers will pull a necklace right off your neck. Make a color copy of your passport and take that with you. But when you're just walking around any city in Europe, you don't need your passport for anything, so just lock it up.

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In Barcelona the hotel will often offer to photocopy your passport and put the hotel stamp on it. You can then leave the real thing in the safe and use the copy if for some reason you need to show your passport (tourist tickets, police, taxfree sales, etc)

 

Although we never saw any evidence of it, pickpockets are reportedly a serious problem in Barcelona. In general when traveling be careful at all times, carry as little stuff with you as you can and try not to be "flashy".

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I also email a copy of my passport to my MSN account. That way, worse case scenario, I can get a copy. (If my copy gets taken too!)

 

My FIL was pickpocketed so we just emailed him a copy of his passport, he took it to the consulate and resolved the matter in no time.

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But you do have to carry it with you each time you get off the ship don't you?

 

Do you "have" to take it off the ship with you? The simple answer is no' date=' you don't have to. The only thing you really have to take with you is your ship key/card, if you want to reboard the ship that is. [/color']

 

People chose to take it or not take it with them. This is definitely a topic that people continue to debate with valid points on each side. (My point of view is that of an American citizen, don't know about rules, etc, regarding other countries' citizens.)

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In order to board (reboard in port) an HAL ship, you must have your ship's ID and a government issued photo ID. That means for most of us, we need either Passport to show on the gangway or our driver's license. Be sure to have one with you when you leave the ship in order to have no problems when returning to the ship.

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I was told by the cruise line that my mom would not need a passport. She is disabled and won't be able to cruise, or travel for that matter, much longer so I did not want to go through the expense of getting her a passport. We were told that as long as the ship departs and returns to a US port that she could travel with just her driver license and birth certificate. We are only going to Ensenada. Have we been given erroneous information?

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I was told by the cruise line that my mom would not need a passport. She is disabled and won't be able to cruise, or travel for that matter, much longer so I did not want to go through the expense of getting her a passport. We were told that as long as the ship departs and returns to a US port that she could travel with just her driver license and birth certificate. We are only going to Ensenada. Have we been given erroneous information?

 

The short answer in my opinion is NO... but...

 

Please do yourself a favor and go to the website http://travel.state.gov ...all of the information you will need will be found there.

 

Have a nice trip!!!

 

Paul

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She's fine. At this time (and as far into the future as one can see with these matters) no one needs a passport for a round trip cruise from the same US port. She can travel on an official birth certificate and gov't issued picture ID (driver's license or state ID, for example).

 

Have fun with your mom.

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I was told by the cruise line that my mom would not need a passport. She is disabled and won't be able to cruise, or travel for that matter, much longer so I did not want to go through the expense of getting her a passport. We were told that as long as the ship departs and returns to a US port that she could travel with just her driver license and birth certificate. We are only going to Ensenada. Have we been given erroneous information?

Cruise line told me the same thing. And according to government website that is the case until Summer of 2008.

Have a great time with your Mom!!!

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I was told ALL must have a passport to cruise beginning Jan. 1, 08. This from my cruise travel agent. I didn't check all the threads so I hope it's not redundant! Mary

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I was told ALL must have a passport to cruise beginning Jan. 1, 08. This from my cruise travel agent. I didn't check all the threads so I hope it's not redundant! Mary

 

My advice would be to go the The US Department Of State website at www.travel.state.gov . Look under the heading "New Travel Requirements For US Citizens". I would rely on the information on this website before I would rely on the information from any other persons.

 

Moreover, I believe it will be in everyone's best interest to obtain a valid passport in the nearest future whether or not you plan to travel outside the US, since it is a universally accepted form of ID. Not to mention...apply for one before the next mad rush and they raise the cost!!!

 

I hope this is helpful.

 

Paul from New Jersey

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My family will be getting passports for our cruise in September. We're going to Jamaica, Grand Caymen and Cozumel. My question is, will we get a stamp for each of these stops or just one stamp upon embarkation? I've done an internet search and can't find that info anywhere.

 

I love the idea of a stamp from each port of call, but I'm afraid that's not how it works. I know someone out there can tell me. Thanks in advance :)

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I was told ALL must have a passport to cruise beginning Jan. 1, 08. This from my cruise travel agent. I didn't check all the threads so I hope it's not redundant! Mary
Your travel agent is incorrect, although probably just being over-cautious. Having a passport means you won't have any documentation troubles, but it is not correct to say that all must have a passport on Jan. 1 08.

 

My advice would be to go the The US Department Of State website at www.travel.state.gov . Look under the heading "New Travel Requirements For US Citizens". I would rely on the information on this website before I would rely on the information from any other persons...Paul from New Jersey
The State dept website refers you to the DHS website, where the most current information is found. See also page 10 of this thread for links and summaries.

 

My family will be getting passports for our cruise in September. We're going to Jamaica, Grand Caymen and Cozumel. My question is, will we get a stamp for each of these stops or just one stamp upon embarkation? I've done an internet search and can't find that info anywhere.

 

I love the idea of a stamp from each port of call, but I'm afraid that's not how it works. I know someone out there can tell me. Thanks in advance :)

Sorry, but most cruise destinations do not stamp the passports. And you won't get a stamp upon leaving or returning to the US with a US passport. You can ask at the Purser's desk if they will do that for you, but it requires that you leave your passport with the purser so that the local immigration authorities have access to your passport when they clear the ship. Not all ships or Pursur's will go to this trouble, but you have to ask.

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What she told me was that the cruise lines demand it as of Jan. 2008. Hmm....I wonder if that's true? Anyway, we just expedited my boyfriend's passport this am. yay!

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Sorry, but most cruise destinations do not stamp the passports. And you won't get a stamp upon leaving or returning to the US with a US passport. You can ask at the Purser's desk if they will do that for you, but it requires that you leave your passport with the purser so that the local immigration authorities have access to your passport when they clear the ship. Not all ships or Pursur's will go to this trouble, but you have to ask.

 

Thank you for that. I may try my luck... you never know if you don't ask. :)

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The State dept website refers you to the DHS website, where the most current information is found. See also page 10 of this thread for links and summaries.

 

I understand what you are saying, however, I can tell you that from just now visiting the DHS and CBP websites, that their travel information is no more current than that of The US Department Of State at www.travel.state.gov .

 

For the total current cost of $122.00, including photos, for a US Passport, taken at your local US Post Office (depending upon Passport services provided at your particular branch) it will be well worth the cost to eliminate the 'unknown' factor by NOT having the Passport in your hands...when traveling abroad or elsewhere.

 

I hope you enjoy your next trip.

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Come guys US Citizens are not the most popular around the world theses days but many of you are risking leaving the country without proper ID. What is with you people outside the country the only thing concidered proper ID IS A PASSPORT!! I am sorry if you feel I have stepped on your toes but it absolutly iludes me why people take suchs risks - those US passports are your "key" to any US Embassy in the world and by the way the caribbean IS NOT THE USA even if these Island are on your doorstep and you do not have the same rights there as you do back home.

 

Please understand that Passports are not just another cost factor but they are a form of "insurance". If you get thrown into jail (innocent or not) anywhere outdside the US - your passport will get you the help of the Embassy - a birth certificate will not or only with a very segnificant delay.... and I don't think any of you would like to see some of these jails from the inside in most carib. states much less spend more time there than absolutly necessary.

 

Then there is the medical factor if you need to get home in a hurry from any Island it becames far more difficult without a passport (and remember things are already going wrong - want something else to worry about?) Immigrations might let the actual patient back into the country without a passport for Humane reasons but the family might be required to return via the planned way - in this case ending the cruise as originally planned...

great idea to have a passport. but a large family who will not being going out of the country after trip this is difficult money wise

bia

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great idea to have a passport. but a large family who will not being going out of the country after trip this is difficult money wise

bia

 

Understood. Exactly why I took my two daughters out of the country before the new Passport requirements are enacted. Eventually I see having a Passport as a necessity rather than a luxury, regardless of whether or not you leave the country.

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I understand what you are saying, however, I can tell you that from just now visiting the DHS and CBP websites, that their travel information is no more current than that of The US Department Of State at www.travel.state.gov .

I hope you enjoy your next trip.

Thank you. I suppose I should have also said complete as well as current. The State Dept website has since been updated but still only summarizes the DHS information, whereas the DHS site lists all the exceptions to the passport requirement. Cruises being one of the exceptions.

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Thank you. I suppose I should have also said complete as well as current. The State Dept website has since been updated but still only summarizes the DHS information, whereas the DHS site lists all the exceptions to the passport requirement. Cruises being one of the exceptions.

 

You are welcome.

 

I am not concerned for myself having a US Passport as I have recently received one. I only suggest that travelers who do not...should consider getting one in the near future.

 

I have also registered with the DHS, to receive, via email, info. concerning travel restrictions and other updates offered. Anyone can register for the same, at www.dhs.gov

 

Cruises, according to the WHTI, are excepted, until a still undetermined date in the future...either Summer 2008, or I read...Summer 2009...

 

But he who hesitates is lost...not to mention waiting until then...one thing is certain...the cost of a Passport will NOT go down.

 

Again...enjoy your trip...I will be on an active Aircraft Carrier for my next cruise...and I will have my Passport!!!

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...Cruises, according to the WHTI, are excepted, until a still undetermined date in the future...either Summer 2008, or I read...Summer 2009...
Actually the "Round Trip cruises from a US port" are permanently excepted from the passport requirement in the WHTI. The second phase implementation will not change that.

 

I, as you are, am of the opinion that having a passport for the travel freedom it provides is a good recommendation. However there are many folks who feel their need for a passport is limited; either by finances or by the fact that they never plan to travel out of the US again, so I simply provide the facts to allow them to make their own decision. I have been on those email advisory updates for a long time--you should get another one today advising of the 1-31-08 paperwork requirement for border crossings--thanks for posting the link for others should they be so inclined.

 

Lastly, thanks for your service. Having been married for 25 years to a Dual Winged Naval Aviator I know exactly what you do in service for this country and what you give up to do that.

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FWIW, I asked for and got passport stamps from British Virgin Islands (Road Town, Tortola), and Bahamas (Nassau), on a US passport. Couldn't find where to get one in St. Martin and in St. Maarten, Customs was too far from where we docked and we didn't have enough time to go there.

 

I've seen passport stamps from people who were cruising in Jamaica and George Town, Grand Cayman. Also heard that someone was able to get their passport stamp while in Haiti (unknown what cruise line, though.) I'll try all three next October when I go there.

 

Also heard that Cozumel does not stamp passports as the only hand stamp is at the airport.

 

But if the US is requiring passports (and assuming they implement this directive by summer 2008), then the foreign countries should treat those passports like they do for any other country, regardless of whether or not the ship leaves out of a US port. Hold them, or not hold them, and then stamp them or not stamp them. For one thing, having one set of rules for all passengers regarding passports would make things easier on foreign Customs.

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Actually the "Round Trip cruises from a US port" are permanently excepted from the passport requirement in the WHTI. The second phase implementation will not change that.

 

 

Lastly, thanks for your service. Having been married for 25 years to a Dual Winged Naval Aviator I know exactly what you do in service for this country and what you give up to do that.

 

Thank you Cheryl and I am glad that we agree to agree... on the wisdom of having a passport...lol.

 

That having been said...I am not in the US Navy myself, however my son is...and I will be onboard the USS Enterprise as a participant in a 'Tiger Cruise', in which family members are allowed to witness first hand, the day to day experiences, effort, and work that our Sailors and Marines (as well as all of the members of our Armed Forces), put forth to defend our freedom.

 

I am very excited about the opportunity to be able to be a part of this experience in 9 days and counting...and to the Homecoming of the ship, for all of the families and loved ones who are not able to participate on the "Tiger Cruise".

 

Anyone can buy a ticket for passage on a cruise ship...but not everyone can cruise on an Aircraft Carrier. I consider myself lucky and blessed that I will have this opportunity.

 

Thank you for your kind words, Best Wishes, and Happy Holidays to you and yours.

 

Paul from New Jersey

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we are taking our family april 2008 on a cruise out of miami. it is our gift to them. there will be 16 people 5 are children. this will be their vacation for awhile. they need to save what they can and if that means they can go without passports good. i believe in them we have them for dh and self. what will they need birth certificate and photo for children also?

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we are taking our family april 2008 on a cruise out of miami. it is our gift to them. there will be 16 people 5 are children. this will be their vacation for awhile. they need to save what they can and if that means they can go without passports good. i believe in them we have them for dh and self. what will they need birth certificate and photo for children also?

 

No photos required for children under 16. If they have a school ID, it would be good to bring it, but it's not required.

 

Kathy

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we are taking our family april 2008 on a cruise out of miami. it is our gift to them. there will be 16 people 5 are children. this will be their vacation for awhile. they need to save what they can and if that means they can go without passports good. i believe in them we have them for dh and self. what will they need birth certificate and photo for children also?

 

It depends on which country or countries you are going to, but this is an excerpt from the Department of Homeland Security at:

 

http://www.dhs.gov/xtrvlsec/crossingborders/

 

For U.S. Citizens

 

Travel Document Requirements - Traveling to Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, or Bermuda U.S. Citizens (including children) must present a passport or other other WHTI-compliant documentation to enter or depart the United States if traveling by air.

Beginning January 31, 2008, U.S. Citizens traveling by land or sea will need to present the following to enter or depart the United States:

  • Ages 19 and older: a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver’s license, along with proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate or naturalization certificate
  • Children ages 18 and younger: proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate.

If you are going to a country other than the above, check with the country directly through www.travel.state.gov

 

Make sure that the Birth Certificates are original or certified copies with raised seal, NOT a photocopy.

 

Hope this helps and enjoy your trip!!! Happy New Year!!!

 

Paul from New Jersey

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It depends on which country or countries you are going to, but this is an excerpt from the Department of Homeland Security at:

 

http://www.dhs.gov/xtrvlsec/crossingborders/

 

For U.S. Citizens

 

Travel Document Requirements - Traveling to Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, or Bermuda U.S. Citizens (including children) must present a passport or other other WHTI-compliant documentation to enter or depart the United States if traveling by air.

Beginning January 31, 2008, U.S. Citizens traveling by land or sea will need to present the following to enter or depart the United States:

  • Ages 19 and older: a government-issued photo ID, such as a driver’s license, along with proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate or naturalization certificate
  • Children ages 18 and younger: proof of citizenship, such as a birth certificate.

If you are going to a country other than the above, check with the country directly through www.travel.state.gov

 

Make sure that the Birth Certificates are original or certified copies with raised seal, NOT a photocopy.

 

Hope this helps and enjoy your trip!!! Happy New Year!!!

 

Paul from New Jersey

 

I want to be ABSOLUTELY clear that my understanding is correct:

 

For travel by sea to the Caribbean in July, 2008, a passport is NOT necessary, as long as you have a certified birth certificate and driver's license?

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I want to be ABSOLUTELY clear that my understanding is correct:

 

For travel by sea to the Caribbean in July, 2008, a passport is NOT necessary, as long as you have a certified birth certificate and driver's license?

 

Correct. As long as you begin and end in the United States. There is talk that passports will NEVER be required for Carribean/Mexico cruising passengers whose cruises start and and in the United States.

 

Kathy

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FWIW, keep on checking because the requirements may change. When we booked last month a cruise on RCI originating in the US for October 2008, we were told passports were necessary. Their Web site states this:

 

U.S. Citizen Passport Requirement

 

The Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI) once fully implemented will require all travelers entering or reentering the United States to be in the possession of a valid passport.

 

Anticipated Implementation

 

con_bulletgray_ico.gifOctober 1, 2007 - The departments of State and Homeland Security reestablished the valid passport requirements for air travel. Valid passports are required for air travel to / from Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, and Bermuda.

U.S. lawful permanent residents will continue to be able to use their Alien Registration Card (Form I-551) issued by the Department of Homeland Security or other valid evidence of permanent residence status to apply for entry to the United States.

 

con_bulletgray_ico.gifAs early as Summer 2008 - A valid passport will be required for all sea and air travel. And subject to U.S. Government amendment, U.S. and Canadian citizens 15 or younger with their parents consent may cross the U.S./Canadian border by land or sea with a certified copy of their birth certificate.

 

IMHO, if anyone plans on traveling in the future, just get a passport. After all, what's the cost compared to the overall cost of the trip - or maybe compared to one's bar bill on a cruise? ;)

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IMHO, if anyone plans on traveling in the future, just get a passport. After all, what's the cost compared to the overall cost of the trip - or maybe compared to one's bar bill on a cruise? ;)

 

We are a family of 7 traveling together. It would save us a lot of $$ if we could just use our birth certificates rather than paying for 7 passports. Also, there is a possibility we might have to cancel our cruise plans before the final payment date. It just makes sense in our situation to use our B.C.'s if that is an option :D However, I will definitely keep checking on the status of the new passport laws. Any updates on this website will be greatly appreciated!

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Lindalo--I, for one, will be sure to post to this thread when the final ruling is implemented or any other change occurs which impacts cruisers. I am also on the e-mailing list from the DHS for any changes or updates to the passport and border regulations, so just keep checking here for any updates. I will also post the links to the actual government website pages. ;) (The cruiseline pages on this subject are woefully slow to be updated, as startraveller's post shows)

 

FWIW, the news stories have all made much ado about the delay last week. But since that was a funding bill, the administration could still decide to implement the second phase without funding (meaning no passcard). It remains to be seen.....

 

Either way, most cruisers (not all cruisers) will not need a passport in the foreseeable future. Not to say they are not a good idea for many reasons, but as you pointed out, there are also good reasons for many families to delay this sort of expense.

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Lindalo--I, for one, will be sure to post to this thread when the final ruling is implemented or any other change occurs which impacts cruisers. I am also on the e-mailing list from the DHS for any changes or updates to the passport and border regulations, so just keep checking here for any updates. I will also post the links to the actual government website pages. ;) (The cruiseline pages on this subject are woefully slow to be updated, as startraveller's post shows)

 

Cheryl, thank you so much--I really do appreciate your input! :)

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Bite the bullet-get a passport. even though you don't need it for a cruise, you Do need it for air travel- like if you had to get an emergency flight!

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OK stupid question time. I know that you can sail out of a US port so long as you return to a US port till Jan 31, 2008. So getting in and out of the US is no big deal but my question is what do you need to get off the ship in the different countries? We are set to sail for a Caribbean cruise that includes Jamaica Cozumel and Cayman do we need to get our boys passports or not? Or are we going on a cruise were the boys can't get off the boat? :confused:

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