smeyer418 Posted December 18, 2008 #1 Share Posted December 18, 2008 seatrade reports the dispute between NCL and the shipyard has been officially settled and there will be one F3 ship only.(at least for now maybe in 5 years the situation will change again)/// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorklinbarb Posted December 18, 2008 #2 Share Posted December 18, 2008 For those who can't access Seatrade Insider, here's NCL's press release on this matter: http://www.ncl.com/nclweb/pressroom/pressRelease.html?storyCode=PR_121808 Delivery expected late May 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Cowboy Posted December 18, 2008 #3 Share Posted December 18, 2008 For those who can't access Seatrade Insider' date=' here's NCL's press release on this matter: http://www.ncl.com/nclweb/pressroom/pressRelease.html?storyCode=PR_121808 Delivery expected late May 2010[/quote'] Are we going on the Inaugrual Transatlantic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorklinbarb Posted December 18, 2008 #4 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Thought you're over on HAL and others these days?;):D Hey, I bet Klaus will be onboard.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Cowboy Posted December 18, 2008 #5 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Thought you're over on HAL and others these days?;):D Hey' date=' I bet Klaus will be onboard.:)[/quote'] YES he will! I had dinner with him a couple weeks ago in Miami and had known, that F3 will be build and told him we will be on the Transatlantic. You need many sea days to explore this ship. And we never said we will never sail NCL! It is just time to explore new things to enjoy the 'too used to' again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnIreland Posted December 18, 2008 #6 Share Posted December 18, 2008 They are using the first hull , so everything back on schedule for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFT_LOVER Posted December 18, 2008 #7 Share Posted December 18, 2008 STX France just announced that they will complete the first ship. The concept for F3 has been altered. They indicate the design will offer ‘more space’ but declined to go into detail, and said NCL will provide further information at a later date. Now a rumor in various news areas is that the 2nd ship will not be built & that they had cancelled the 3rd. But we wait for NCL to give the "horse's mouth" version of the story. If Jamie has any more info it is time to post. Same with my officers from Jewel that stated they'd be here to answer questions. Also NCL just inked a contract with Port of Miami for the next 10 years. NCL secures priority access to two large-ship berths at Terminals B and C. So F3 is all set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14ersco Posted December 18, 2008 #8 Share Posted December 18, 2008 So with today's announcement of one F3 to be completed in late May 2010 and yesterday's announcement of a 10 year agreement and port upgrades in Miami does that lead one to assume there could be summer 2010 sailings of the F3 in the Caribbean? :cool: For the summer of 2010 NCL has Sun, Star, and Pearl in Alaska; Spirit and Dawn in Bermuda; Jewel, Jade, and Gem in Europe; Pride of America in Hawaii; and Sky in Bahamas. So where does the F3 cruise that first summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudeman Posted December 18, 2008 #9 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Is the F3 going to be in the Caribbean? At tender ports? Just that tendering 4,200 pax should be, uh, interesting. We just got reaquainted with NCL and like very much the Jewel-class ships - 9x,000 tons. Just seems like a good size. Never felt "crowded". Last April we were on a smaller RCI ship in Cozumel when one of the monster RCI ships docked next to us. Their main complaint: getting off the ship - especially in Belize and Cayman!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeh3 Posted December 18, 2008 #10 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Europe, The Med, maybe the Northern Cape. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnIreland Posted December 18, 2008 #11 Share Posted December 18, 2008 So with today's announcement of one F3 to be completed in late May 2010 and yesterday's announcement of a 10 year agreement and port upgrades in Miami does that lead one to assume there could be summer 2010 sailings of the F3 in the Caribbean? :cool: For the summer of 2010 NCL has Sun, Star, and Pearl in Alaska; Spirit and Dawn in Bermuda; Jewel, Jade, and Gem in Europe; Pride of America in Hawaii; and Sky in Bahamas. So where does the F3 cruise that first summer? I think you are correct. Was hoping for europe , but they won't be sending a 4th ship over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare insidecabin Posted December 18, 2008 #12 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I think you are correct. Was hoping for europe , but they won't be sending a 4th ship over. Would be easy to not bring one of the ships over and leave the F3 in Euope for the summer to make sure it works, it is getting built by the french. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare troyphoto Posted December 18, 2008 #13 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Press release from NCL here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Rare CC Help Michell Posted December 18, 2008 Administrators #14 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I'm not sure I'm a "behemoth" ship kind of girl, but if it gave me an NCL option in the Caribbean in the summer, I think I'd be asking "which curvy cabin has my name on it?" :) I doubt any firm decision will be made for a while -- Europe has gone very soft, and many lines are backing off their prior numbers there. In NCL's place I wouldn't commit a new asset there so far in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planer's Edge Posted December 18, 2008 #15 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Thought you're over on HAL and others these days?;):D Hey' date=' I bet Klaus will be onboard.:)[/quote'] According to Hugo, he will be bringing out the F3 as Hotel Director. PE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2cruise1 Posted December 18, 2008 #16 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Thought you're over on HAL and others these days?;):D Hey' date=' I bet Klaus will be onboard.:)[/quote'] According to Hugo' date=' he will be bringing out the F3 as Hotel Director. PE[/quote'] And as the VP Shipboard Operations I would bet Klaus will be onbaord as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare insidecabin Posted December 19, 2008 #17 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I'm not sure I'm a "behemoth" ship kind of girl, but if it gave me an NCL option in the Caribbean in the summer, I think I'd be asking "which curvy cabin has my name on it?" :) I doubt any firm decision will be made for a while -- Europe has gone very soft, and many lines are backing off their prior numbers there. In NCL's place I wouldn't commit a new asset there so far in advance. The cruise lines cannot pull all the ships back to the american market it is over capacity allready, it would turn into another NCLA. Both NCL and RCI kept a ship in the med to try it out over the winter. They need to promote sensible prices in europe to europeans to keep the ships full and be less dependant on high paying US travelers flying over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Rare CC Help Michell Posted December 19, 2008 Administrators #18 Share Posted December 19, 2008 The cruise lines cannot pull all the ships back to the american market it is over capacity allready, it would turn into another NCLA. Both NCL and RCI kept a ship in the med to try it out over the winter. They need to promote sensible prices in europe to europeans to keep the ships full and be less dependant on high paying US travelers flying over. I don't disagree with that, but NCL has ZERO presence in the Caribbean market from late April to October from Southern US ports. I'm not advocating pulling all ships from Europe (for the reasons you state); I'm just saying it would be nice if maybe the new build were assigned to creating a Caribbean presence during a time NCL has none other than the New York one -- I just can't see my way to flying northward in order to sail southward and then return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knuts1 Posted December 19, 2008 #19 Share Posted December 19, 2008 my guess is the Egypt to Athens as these are not listen for 2010 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster Posted December 19, 2008 #20 Share Posted December 19, 2008 The NCL press release doesn't mention the penalties that are being reported elsewhere that NCL will have to pay for only going with one ship. It is an expensive proposition to go ahead with just one ship and the need to market it's unique characteristics that set it apart from NCL's other ships. It will just be another additional marketing cost for NCL. Hope NCL will be able to recoup the added costs with that 'niche crowd' who are fine with paying extra for cover charges just to experience clubs with overpriced drinks compared to land based options on a one-of-a kind ship. I have my doubts to put it modestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare insidecabin Posted December 19, 2008 #21 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I don't disagree with that, but NCL has ZERO presence in the Caribbean market from late April to October from Southern US ports. I'm not advocating pulling all ships from Europe (for the reasons you state); I'm just saying it would be nice if maybe the new build were assigned to creating a Caribbean presence during a time NCL has none other than the New York one -- I just can't see my way to flying northward in order to sail southward and then return. Won't the caribbean summer market Hit the huricane season Put it up against Oasis of the Seas as well as others allready there Need to be 7n cruises since it will be mainly the US market with no vacation time. This would put massive pressure on the limited capacity features, just like on the current fleet it is the shorter cruises that have the problems with the speciality restaurant bookings. With costs rising everywhere spreading out with more home ports may be the way to go capture a local market, the problem is you need more repos, look at the jade it has 4 bases in the year, NCL are consolidating europe with single home ports for the 3 ships already announced 2010 itineraries. Note the Jade is being based in BCN(western med), The Gem moving to home port in Venice(greece/Turkey/croatia) with the Jewel still doing the Baltic runs from Dover This leaves Southampton(one of the few ports big enough to handle the ship) open for the F3.(a 2hr drive so my prefered choice) and can do 14n trips which are much better for the bigger ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logcabin Posted December 19, 2008 #22 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I just received word that the first F3 is moving forward. NCL has reached an agreement with the shipyard. There will be changes in the design and it is due out in May of 2010. As of this writing, the second F3 will not be built. Sorry for the second post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14ersco Posted December 19, 2008 #23 Share Posted December 19, 2008 A couple other items point towards NCL putting a ship in the Caribbean for the summer of 2010. In the press release announcing the 10 year lease in Miami it says NCL is getting two berths and is guaranteeing a minimum of $98 million in port fees during the lease. Based on the current NCL sailings that would mean from mid-April to mid-October NCL would have an empty berth earning no port fees. Also the upgrades to the terminal are to be done in 12 to 18 months, just in time for the F3. The F3 could do the mirror opposite schedule of the Oasis of the Sea. In the summer of 2010 the Oasis of the Sea switches between 7 day Eastern Caribbean and 7 day Western Caribbean sailings. If these ports can handle the size of the Oasis of the Seas they can handle the F3. :eek: We would welcome any NCL ship cruising the Caribbean in the summer, since we need to fit our cruise to the school schedules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Wahlstrom Posted December 19, 2008 #24 Share Posted December 19, 2008 lots of thinks happening in the industry this week for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knuts1 Posted December 20, 2008 #25 Share Posted December 20, 2008 so are you all saying they are droping the Egypt & Greek Isles Istanbul to Athens itenary that the Jade has been doing for 2010??:confused::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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