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Do you smoke on a cruise?


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Do you smoke on a cruise (cigars, cigarettes, or pipe)?  

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  1. 1. Do you smoke on a cruise (cigars, cigarettes, or pipe)?

    • Yes.
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    • Sometimes.
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    • Never.
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This is just a little off topic, but still has to do with smokers. South Dakota has been talking about banning smoking in ALL Casinos!! Now we do not smoke, but it seems this would really effect the casinos revenue. The legislature will be taking this up very soon. Alot of the casinos have non-smoking rooms already, but they are such a small area, maybe they need to reverse and have sm area for smokers??? I don't know what the answer should be. Also 95% of the casinos are Indian casinos and I sorta thought they where regulated different than say, casino town of Deadwood.

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This is just a little off topic, but still has to do with smokers. South Dakota has been talking about banning smoking in ALL Casinos!! Now we do not smoke, but it seems this would really effect the casinos revenue. The legislature will be taking this up very soon. Alot of the casinos have non-smoking rooms already, but they are such a small area, maybe they need to reverse and have sm area for smokers??? I don't know what the answer should be. Also 95% of the casinos are Indian casinos and I sorta thought they where regulated different than say, casino town of Deadwood.

We were in Puerto Rico recently, and, at least in San Juan, it's virtually non-smoking in every public building, including casinos. They seemed pretty busy to me.

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No, I was just confining the question to behavior during a cruise.

 

What does smoking or not have to do with one's behavior on a cruise ship? Smoking doesn't mean someone has bad manners or is rude. Some of the finest people smoke sometimes, even President Obama..Does it alter his behavior??? This was a pretty senseless comment, sorry

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I really hate to get involved in yet another smoking thread but.... (famous last words)......

 

It seems that many complaints center around the casino being smoky. I would LOVE to see a rather complicated poll of smokers vs non, and a breakdown within each of casino action (maybe average daily points earned on last cruise?) with another breakdown of how a ban of smoking would affect their casino action on their next cruise (realistically). I think most non-smokers might be surprised at how much revenue smokers bring to casinos.

 

As far as Atlantic City goes - I am there probably once every 10-14 days. With the current hold on making all casinos non-smoking, the 20% area that still allows smoking is packed, while the rest of the casino is at about 15-20% occupancy (I am speaking of slot areas only). When I mean packed, I mean that I often cannot even find ANY open machine in the smoking area in Caesars, and have a difficult time in Bally's which is MUCH larger. I have also taken an informal poll of waitresses and dealers in those casinos - and most tell me that smokers order more alcohol, tip more, and that many will actually FIGHT to get stationed in those areas. Sure, there are a lot who actually want to work in the non-smoking area so as to not get bothered by smoke, but what about the ones who would rather earn more money and don't mind the smoke? So I have a solution: How about the casinos pay a higher wage to those stationed in smoking areas vs non. It's a win-win, the casinos see more revenue and they can share that with their employees willing to work those areas. The original group of employees who brought about the change in law would be happy, as they won't be bothered by smoke and (more importantly) will be able to keep their jobs (many of which would disappear with the lost casino revenue), those that don't mind would be happy, and all types of gamblers would be happy.

 

There are a lot of stones to be thrown about the smoking issue, but I'm not sure ANYONE is completely innocent. Have any of the fervent non-smokers EVER done anything to risk another person's health, ie. driving after even a single drink or eaten nuts around a person who is highly allergic to them (whether you knew it or not) or even forgotten to empty any stagnant water anywhere on your property so as to not breed mosquitos? We are all simply trying to live together in an increasingly crowded world where personal rights are threatened everywhere. Can't we all just get along?

 

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What does smoking or not have to do with one's behavior on a cruise ship? Smoking doesn't mean someone has bad manners or is rude. Some of the finest people smoke sometimes, even President Obama..Does it alter his behavior??? This was a pretty senseless comment, sorry

I think Lady is using the word "behavior" to describe the act of smoking, not smoking or sometimes smoking. Not as a reflection of character.

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I'm a non-smoker with asthma and would consider myself to be tolerant of smokers. As long as there are designated areas it's something of a non-issue providing both sides keep up their end of the bargain: the non-smokers don't complain when the smokers are in their 'rightful place' (sorry couldn't resist saying that) and the smokers don't smoke where they shouldn't and are considerate of those around them.

 

I would agree with you completely. However, there are a lot more non smokers that don't feel as you do as smokers who don't obey the rules. Look at the quote below and you'll get my point.

 

The problem is 1 smoker can ruin the environment for 100 people around them! Even if it is only 20% smoking, there are 80% of us in misery. Smoking should be banned from Earth! :D

 

Somehow I don't think that smokers staying in designated areas will satisfy the above person. She, and those like her (who are many) have no tolerance for any other opinion then their own.

 

I'd like to thank you however, for being reasonable.

 

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Hey Terry,

Yup I'm in Hawaii now. I board the America on Sunday. I posted some pictures today on my newest blog entry (www.shipblogger.com).

 

I think because the higher % of smokers that cruise is why more cruise lines haven't made more smoke free changes yet..yet being the keyword.

 

I really think that Carnival Paradise smoke free ship would have continued to be as successful as much as it was if Carnival changed up its itins from time to time.

 

One interesting note. In Ohio when the non smoking in restaurants and bars rule started the owners were worried over the drop in customers. They were surprised to see their customer count actually rising. It's going to be interesting to see what the cruise industry will do.

 

Glad you made it there okay, James! Happy cruising to you. I hope you only encounter friendly, happy to be crusing guests.

 

Yet being the key word...if and when that happens I will no longer be cruising.

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I'm just wondering how many non smokers are totally SHOCKED at these poll results? I'd bet the majority. I'd also guess that's why we aren't hearing much from the non smokers on this thread. They continuously claim how the smokers are in the minority, and how they should not be made to suffer because of the desires of a few. This poll is showing them there is certainly more then a few.

 

I'd guess that CC is made up of a vast variety of people from many cultures, of various ages, sexes, and economic variances, so they really are a random group (other then loving cruising). So I would think that this is a pretty decent cross sampling of cruisers.

 

Evidently, of the 20% of the general public who smoke, a LOT of them cruise! Guess we know why the casino's are so smoky now! :)

 

CG

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I'm thinking we have some "closet smokers" that only smoke when on a cruise ship! :D

 

CG

 

That's me. I'm a vacation only smoker. Enjoy it on the cruise and post-cruise, go home and don't give it another thought until the next vacation. Sometimes it's just fun to be a "bad" girl. :D

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That's me. I'm a vacation only smoker. Enjoy it on the cruise and post-cruise' date=' go home and don't give it another thought until the next vacation. Sometimes it's just fun to be a "bad" girl. :D[/quote']

 

I wish I could do that! But, it never works for me. Must be the addiciton factor in my case. Smoke one today and I will be smoking a pack every day within a month, so I can't risk it.

 

Good luck and never smoke when you get back.

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I know it's hard to quit and I'm understanding of those that can't break the habit. Besides there are more places I can go for fresh air than there are for a smoker to go and light up.

Why does everyone just assume that all smokers WANT to "break the habit" but just can't. Some people (myself included) just enjoy smoking. Why is that not a good enough answer for anyone?

 

That being said, congratulations on achieving YOUR goal of quitting.

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The problem is 1 smoker can ruin the environment for 100 people around them! Even if it is only 20% smoking, there are 80% of us in misery. Smoking should be banned from Earth! :D

 

What is interesting to me is that one loud, obnoxious complainer... or drunk... or woman wearing a ridiculous amount of perfume can annoy everyone around them, yet most of us would consider it impolite to make an issue of it. Get a grip people. Until it becomes socially acceptable for me to wave my hand in front of my face like a moron as you walk by stinking of Channel #5 and loudly proclaim how badly you stink, lay off the smokers. Until it becomes socially acceptable to go up to your miserable children and insist they wash their hands as they leave the bathroom and head for the buffet, don't complain.

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Good call on this one. Go into a cruise ship casino on a non-smoking night vs. normal nights. Half the number of people. The fact is that gamblers drink and gamblers smoke. Its that simple. Casinos don't want to have smoking out of some desire to accommodate people... they do it because they make more money that way. They are in a BUSINESS. I, as someone who gambles, smokes and drinks high-end scotch are a casino's most valued customer. Those of you who drop 50 bucks in the nickel slots over the course of a week's cruise, are unfortunately expendable as customers. Facts are facts.

 

 

I really hate to get involved in yet another smoking thread but.... (famous last words)......

 

It seems that many complaints center around the casino being smoky. I would LOVE to see a rather complicated poll of smokers vs non, and a breakdown within each of casino action (maybe average daily points earned on last cruise?) with another breakdown of how a ban of smoking would affect their casino action on their next cruise (realistically). I think most non-smokers might be surprised at how much revenue smokers bring to casinos.

 

As far as Atlantic City goes - I am there probably once every 10-14 days. With the current hold on making all casinos non-smoking, the 20% area that still allows smoking is packed, while the rest of the casino is at about 15-20% occupancy (I am speaking of slot areas only). When I mean packed, I mean that I often cannot even find ANY open machine in the smoking area in Caesars, and have a difficult time in Bally's which is MUCH larger. I have also taken an informal poll of waitresses and dealers in those casinos - and most tell me that smokers order more alcohol, tip more, and that many will actually FIGHT to get stationed in those areas. Sure, there are a lot who actually want to work in the non-smoking area so as to not get bothered by smoke, but what about the ones who would rather earn more money and don't mind the smoke? So I have a solution: How about the casinos pay a higher wage to those stationed in smoking areas vs non. It's a win-win, the casinos see more revenue and they can share that with their employees willing to work those areas. The original group of employees who brought about the change in law would be happy, as they won't be bothered by smoke and (more importantly) will be able to keep their jobs (many of which would disappear with the lost casino revenue), those that don't mind would be happy, and all types of gamblers would be happy.

 

There are a lot of stones to be thrown about the smoking issue, but I'm not sure ANYONE is completely innocent. Have any of the fervent non-smokers EVER done anything to risk another person's health, ie. driving after even a single drink or eaten nuts around a person who is highly allergic to them (whether you knew it or not) or even forgotten to empty any stagnant water anywhere on your property so as to not breed mosquitos? We are all simply trying to live together in an increasingly crowded world where personal rights are threatened everywhere. Can't we all just get along?

 

Robin

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The 20% figure is based on the entire population of the United States. I've always been skeptical of that stat after spending 20 years working in hospitals and knowing how many healthcare workers smoke.

 

I'm a little surprised by the percentage on this poll, but also wonder if the title of the thread is making the difference. The current results are making me happy though :D...

 

To Sha88...when you are on the ship just keep taking deep breaths and think about how nice your sinuses feel...and don't worry about the size 12's! I quit for a year - gained 20 lbs, bought size 12's, started up again and still have the 20 lbs. It's a tough habit to break! But I know how good you feel and its simply not worth going back! (Unfortunately, I do enjoy it!)

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I am a ex- 3 pack a day smoker (0ver 22 years). I was a little taken aback when I found out that NCl allows people to smoke in their cabins. I will be on the South America repositioning cruise in April and I am hoping that this will not be a problem. I quit smoking due to serious health problems and cannot be around cigarette smoke. I don't mind it outside or in open air areas but after 6 cruises, this is the first one I'll be one where it's allowed in cabins.

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I am a ex- 3 pack a day smoker (0ver 22 years). I was a little taken aback when I found out that NCl allows people to smoke in their cabins. I will be on the South America repositioning cruise in April and I am hoping that this will not be a problem. I quit smoking due to serious health problems and cannot be around cigarette smoke. I don't mind it outside or in open air areas but after 6 cruises, this is the first one I'll be one where it's allowed in cabins.

 

I honest do not know what they do to clean a cabin after someone has smoked in one, but it is surprising how few ever say they can tell a smoker was in their cabin before them. If you do enter your cabin and it smells of smoke, just find your cabin steward immeditaely or call the front desk and they will get the cabin steward if you cant find him or her. They literally remove the curtians and all fabrics in the room and replace them. I have been told they do this inbetween the last guest leaving and before the next guest board the ship if someone has smoked in the cabin, but, they will make it right for you one way or the other if you alert them to the issue.

 

We both do smoke, but we don't smoke in our house and we don't smoke in the cabin when we cruise. We do smoke on our balcony weather permitting and if weather is not permitting, we go to the casino or a deck that has smoking areas. A good thing for our neighbors is we are not chain smokers so we may, in one whole day, use our balcony five or six times to smoke. Now if I am in a casino, I chain smoke.. go figure.

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To Sha88...when you are on the ship just keep taking deep breaths and think about how nice your sinuses feel...and don't worry about the size 12's! I quit for a year - gained 20 lbs, bought size 12's, started up again and still have the 20 lbs. It's a tough habit to break! But I know how good you feel and its simply not worth going back! (Unfortunately, I do enjoy it!)

 

Hey, thanks very much. This is probably my 10th attempt and the longest successful quit so far. I had real motivation to keep this quit going and using Chantiox helped, too.

 

I enjoyed it too! But really feel SO MUCH BETTER now.

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The 20% figure is based on the entire population of the United States.

 

Is that just adults, or does it include every living being? There are children who smoke, too, so if it's just an adult statistic it's still not correct. If it includes the entire population it is counting babies, so is skewed.

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I think we are not hearing from most non smokers on this thread because the title of the thread is DO YOU SMOKE ON A CRUISE. Since the answer for non smokers is NO they don't bother to open yet another smoking thread, especially after how nasty the last one was.

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we may, in one whole day, use our balcony five or six times to smoke. Now if I am in a casino, I chain smoke.. go figure.

 

Same here. I go outside on the front porch to smoke at home. I have a bench to sit on, and newspapers there to amuse me while I smoke. I do this because my husband quit 20 years ago. YET he will spend a lot of time in the cruise ship casino, not complaining about the smoke!

 

I have no problem with not smoking in the cabin. Just seems like the considerate thing to do. If I have a balcony, I will definitely smoke on it. So I will seek out a legal place to smoke on a cruise.

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The problem is 1 smoker can ruin the environment for 100 people around them! Even if it is only 20% smoking, there are 80% of us in misery. Smoking should be banned from Earth! :D

 

And one diesel truck passing you at a cross walk is much more caustic to your lungs. Remember to exhale when this happens, if at all possible.

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Hey, thanks very much. This is probably my 10th attempt and the longest successful quit so far. I had real motivation to keep this quit going and using Chantiox helped, too.

 

I enjoyed it too! But really feel SO MUCH BETTER now.

 

That's great sha88. I've been smoke-free for over 30 years now and I must say, I never miss it. When I think of all the health issues I've avoided, and all the thousands of $$$ I've saved over the years, I'm a much happier person.

 

My sympathies lie with the smokers, however. After losing 3 close family members to smoking at premature ages, my wish for everyone is to never have to suffer in that way. I still get choked up, not from smokers, but from the memories of my brother, a favorite uncle, and aunt who passed away with much suffering. I will, however, respect your wishes if you choose that path.

 

Duane

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