perditax

1 hour ago, bluesea321 said:

Info from an Australian doctor on the ship. Her dad tested positive (initially negative) and has been moved to a hospital. Difficult communications. Australian Embassy trying to help. Bless her heart.

https://twitter.com/eCrets?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fnews%2F2020-02-14%2Fwhy-do-coronavirus-cases-keep-rising-on-diamond-princess%2F11961166

 

The tweet is days old at this point ... five hours ago she tweeted that Dad is doing well, no pneumonia. NOT a new case from today.

1 hour ago, ChipLondon said:

We are on the ship at the end of February doing the Transatlantic to New York, very excited 

Are you part of the press?

Just now, Pushka said:

So are you saying that it doesn’t apply to non US passengers then? 

I just read it as a United States agency communicating with United States passengers about how things are going to go, including the bit at the end about logistics back to the United States.

I would imagine this is a bit of a bureaucratic nightmare on top of everything else.

7 minutes ago, Pushka said:

That seems very heavily oriented to US guests which I’m guessing don’t form the majority of cruisers on the ship. 

The CDC is a US organization and the letter is addressed at the top to US passengers.

15 minutes ago, brisalta said:

I can imagine some ships in some locations being used as temporary docked hotels in future.

That’s been done for big sports events like the Olympics and the Super Bowl. Off the top of my head I know the NCL getaway went to Rio.

This post is from last November

43 minutes ago, npcl said:

They are now using clinical diagnosis, in addition to confirmed tests.  The paper that came out a few days ago that everyone speculated about it showing 1 case with 24 incubation time, real purpose was to take a look at clinical symptoms in 1000 patients.  One of the things that the paper talked about was using lung cat scans.  It now appears that China is now including patients that show the disease on lung cat scans, but have not been tested.  That is where the big jump came from. 

Do you ever wonder why we’re still trying to talk any sense? 🙂 People are going to go insane over the new numbers from the new clinical diagnosis, and I think I probably better call it a night and watch Netflix.

Good luck if you carry on, and thanks for trying.

54 minutes ago, sfaaa said:

You can call it panicking, others prefer to call this mitigating risk exposure. 

Humans are notoriously bad at risk assessment.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-inertia-trap/201303/why-are-people-bad-evaluating-risks

Even the stock market knows that this is going to be plateauing soon.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cruise-stocks-shrug-off-carnivals-coronavirus-warning-to-trade-higher-2020-02-12

18 minutes ago, HPSE81 said:

hmmm this is strange... First they tested negativ, but after a few days (no new test), they are told that they are positive? And they have no symptoms.... Can the tests be trusted? Should all be tested? 

 

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/atlanta-couple-tests-positive-coronavirus-cruise-ship-japan-son-says/X6GB22QLKNCVDHFTZ7PPGZ2XDM/?fbclid=IwAR0S-Tc9UxKDe8je5i4Wmlv6hkJQaCH_C4Mv2WC2NWDMya0ndXNQ7pbv2L8

This couple is in the hospital and already recovered ... which means this all happened early in the quarantine period.

1 hour ago, Barnmom said:

I am having an issue  on the  "it's go time " tab  to book on board activities. i press the tab and nothing....

Yeah, mine turned red a few days ago but doesn’t do anything, I don’t think they have the booking stuff online yet.

4 minutes ago, RMMariner said:

Stop panicking. It only makes things worse.

But it's more fun to allude to a cover-up about the 'true numbers', and call other people naive! 🙂

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/cruise-stocks-shrug-off-carnivals-coronavirus-warning-to-trade-higher-2020-02-12?mod=pulse_full_story

12 minutes ago, repo-cruiser said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/top-chinese-expert-zhong-nanshan-clarifies-only-1-case-in-coronavirus-study-shows-24

- "Only one in a sample of 1,099 patients infected with the new coronavirus was found to have an incubation period of as long as 24 days, a top Chinese scientist has clarified."

 " Dr Zhong Nanshan, a prominent scientist who is leading a government-appointed panel of experts to help control the coronavirus outbreak, said on Tuesday (Feb 11) that caution is needed because there is not enough evidence to regard 24 days as the longest incubation period for the coronavirus, Xinhua reported."

Now the same people who were yelling about the 24 day incubation period yesterday are going to come back and claim that this is obviously the Chinese government trying to silence the info. 

45 minutes ago, iancal said:

Diamond is a much different situation that appears to be getting worse as each new day passes.

There were fewer new cases announced today than there were yesterday.

22 minutes ago, bostonfred said:

Seems difficult to choose your deck and cabin...can it be done?

 We are late 60’s are any other senior cruises interested in sailing VV

 

You can call up VV and request or change your cabin number. They definitely have the ability to do it. They are nice folks on the phone. 

5 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

We're on the May 3rd Diplo on Deck cruise

I'm stopping myself from continuing to ask you tech support questions. 🙂 Sorry I don't know you IRL or I could try to do more. Good luck w/Virgin and their IT (sincerely). The exact same problem was driving me nuts for a while, but it was just the one device. 

9 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

He thinks the best solution is for Virgin to delete our accounts and we start all over. I'm probably going to call them and suggest that.

 

If you guys don't have any bookings/money in the game, seems like it could work, if Virgin CS is even able to do that. 

5 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

Just tried to login using my husband's mobile phone which I've never signed on any of his devices. And same issues,so the problem is definitely not on my end.

Incidentally my husband is having the same exact issues with his Virgin account. With so many people having issues it's definitely not  a user issue,it's a website issue.

I'm not trying to 'blame the user', I'm just in IT myself and also had the same issue. 

Had your husband logged into the virgin site on that phone already?

25 minutes ago, KnowTheScore said:

DIAMOND PRICESS CASES

 

The number of Coronavirus cases on the quarantined Diamond Princess has now risen again.

 

It started with just a few, then 41, then 66, then 137 and now 175 cases

 

At what point to we start to seriously reassess the notion that air-conditioning doesn't spread viruses between cabins?!!

 

Not a great time to be cruising imho.

The ship only went into quarantine one week ago ... still within initial incubation period. Still only a fraction of the 3700ish people aboard. Infected persons are being removed from the ship. No need for the bold-type red-font antics. 

12 minutes ago, NorthwestCruiser said:

I suspect that (and this is opinion) that having been burned by SARS and having spent a ton of money investing in infrastructure to detect SARS-like cases, we hear more about cases in China and Hong Kong because they have the ability to detect cases.

I also tend to blow off the 'OMG CHINA IS UNDERREPORTING' stuff, and the panic when they were building the emergency hospitals, for the same reason. (They don't want to look bad again after SARS.)

31 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

I'm wondering if I'm the only one with problems accessing the Virgin website to see my cruise details. It was working right after I made my booking but then suddenly

whenever I tried to log on to my account I get the 404 ERROR page with the seals. I've been working with Virgin for 2 weeks now with no resolution yet. Everyone is very and I've exhausted all that I can do on my end. I even got a call back yesterday for customer support and as of today I still can't access  my account. You can clearly see my account information and my sailing date and information but then the 404 error page comes up obscuring access. Anyone else with this issue?

This happened on one device of mine. I had to clear all cookies and logins from the site (through the browser's tools). If your login is in the state mine was in, you also can't successfully 'log out', right?

You mentioned multiple devices. Is it possible they are sharing cookies/login info between them?

I know you tried incognito mode, but do you have another devices (like a phone) on which you've never logged into the site from? If it works on this other totally new device, it's a problem with the browsers on your other devices, not your VV account. 

Also disable ALL your ad-block while testing. 

18 minutes ago, LizNeedsAVacation said:

The internet is an interesting one. They normally don’t have everyone on the ship buying the internet package, much less trying to live stream and stream videos.

Conversely, in my experience (which doesn't include Asia), ship internet connectivity is usually much better when in port. I guess that might not be the case now (or when they go out to take on fresh water), or the availability of streaming services is affecting it. 

15 hours ago, perditax said:

Yikes.

 

Q: How are you taking care of the crew?

 

A: “Thoughts and prayers.”

 

If you’ve seen my posts you know I tend to err on the side of *not* engaging in FUD or hand-wringing, but their answer about how they’re taking care of the crew made my stomach drop. I know they’re used to working hard, but they’ve effectively been forced into the role of fulltime emergency biohazard workers. They need something more concrete than a long-distance spiritual advisor.

I'm quoting myself above so as to give credit where due for the following.

http://crew-center.com/diamond-princess-crew-get-two-months-paid-time

This is the kind of thing I meant, not better training and gear. 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/carnival-says-there-could-be-as-much-as-65-cents-per-share-fiscal-year-impact-if-all-operations-suspended-in-asia-2020-02-12

Stock price still up today though.