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  1. The idea of walking round scanning for the strongest wifi signal is foolish unless you have a defective phone/tablet/laptop. The restriction slowing everything down is not the wifi link, it is the satellite link.

    As for VPN, I have used them on board and the statement that they are only effective if the desired site blocks Regent is completely wrong. Regent, or rather their provider, blocks ceratin types of traffic, aka packets. It can block swathes of services based on packet inspection, a VPN overcomes this.

    However the blocks are there for a reason - to stop the ignorant, or selfish, from hogging the bandwidth thus denying service to others.

    Just look at the size of photos that some post online from the ship, many in the many Mbs.  Either ignorant or selfish.

  2. JMariner 

    You are incorrect when you say:

    "All VPN's will dramatically slow down your internet experience just by the nature of how a VPN works. "

    All internet connections are made up of many individual connections in serries and it is slowest of these that determines the overall speed. Your concept of applying %s to each section is wrong.

    I can acheive up and down speeds of well over 50Mb/s using NordVPN. Inserting such into an on-board connection of say 1Mb/s up and 200Kb/s down makes no difference to speed at all.

    It does however increase latency, perhaps that is what you are thinking about but even then %s are inappropriate, just straight additions apply.

     

  3. My main VPN is NordVPN which I use on-board ship.  I have also used the free VPN Tunnel Bear. Both work well, the free one was limited to 500Mb per day.

     

    Back in April 2018 I analysed the internet offerings on-board and why the connectivity is so limited. It is still valid today however as Starlink's offerings may soon offer much lower latency, as for cost??

     

    The 2018 analysis:

    What should we expect in terms of internet connectivity andwhat would that cost Regent?

    Very approximate order of magnitude calculations only.

    What is acceptable?? Very subjective but in UK 10Mb/s is deemed by government to be virtually a “right”. (Expected to increase to 20Mb/s in 2 years and then some time beforefurther increase as limit on non-fibre reached)

    Contention ratio is fundamental (number of subscribers sharing this same “supply pipe). Generally,for domestic consumers the ratio is 40:1 and for small/medium commercial 20:1with large users having no contention at all. The rationale behind this that domestic users are disparate with non-aligned usage whereas commercial users are far more aligned, thus concentrating their usage patterns. Large commercial manage their own contention. At higher speeds, the contention ratio can be increased as uploads/downloads take up less time. Latency (delay) also has an effect and at long latency times (i.e. satellite) the contention ratio should be decreased to give the same service integrity. Taking all this into account, I suggest that contention ratios should be say 30:1 for an “average” service on board and 20:1for a “good” service.

    So taking the above two aspects together I put forward the suggestion that:

    10Mb/s and 30:1 wouldbe average

    20Mb/s and 20:1 wouldbe good.

    Next to calculate what capacity of link would support that:

    Number of users – (Navigator) – 500 pax of whom say 2/3 gold or above so get log in each and 1 log in per cabin for the rest - 400 in total – Figures for other 3 ships willbe 50% greater.

    Average Service- 400 users, 10Mb/s and 30:1 results in 130Mb/sservice being required (again 50% more for non-Navigator)

    Good service – 400 users, 20Mb/s and 20:1 results in 400Mb/s(+50% for non Navigator)

     

    Cost

    Costs of purchasing satellite time vary significantly depending on frequency band, contract length, delivery point etc, but are generally in the range of 600 USD to 2,500 USD per month per Mb/s. Using a figure of 1,500 USD this would incur costs to regent of:

    200,000 USD per month for an “average” service for the Navigator. Plus 50% for each other ship

    600,000 USD per month for a “good” service for the Navigator, plus 50% for each other ship

     

    What Regent appear to have done is open up the service to all and as a result the integrity of the service has suffered. I do not believe that the service is acceptable, due to its integrity (unreliability) for anything more than casual use. If you need to rely on internet connectivity during your cruise then Regent do not provide it at present.

     
  4. Clay Clayton

    8 hours ago, Clay Clayton said:

    We are considering booking our first RSSC cruise (Viking had become our go-to lately) and am confused by something showing on the website.  Each stateroom category includes the statement “Concierge Level Amenities” but my TA says that doesn’t mean the free hotel and transfers...so if that is the case what does it mean?

    TIA!

     

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    The clue is that there is no entry by Concierge, nor is there by Butler.  That means you don't have those services.

  5. Jmariner

    Your point:

    "I assume that it is already fairly secure. Never heard of any date breaches while on a ship network."

    missed the point.  VPN may be required due to packet inspection/rejection - nothing to do with security or data breaches.

     

    The increase in latency, <15%, is not significant, although I concede it will exacerbate packet loss in the event of significant data corruption.

  6. Jmariner

     

    4 hours ago, JMARINER said:

    The problem with using a VPN on Regent is the greatly added latency (ping) that the VPN adds. The Regent ships usually have a ping of  700-900ms, which is already horrid. A VPN will easily add up to another 100-150 ms. 

     

    I turn off my VPN when I am on the ship to speed things up. Since everything is routed thru the ships system and then again on the sat ground station, I assume that it is already fairly secure. Never heard of any date breaches while on a ship network.

     

    J

    The VPN  in this case is nothing to do with security. It is down to Regent or their providers inspecting the data packets and rejecting some types. For example we know they block video streaming packets unless you pay for the "enhanced" internet service. The VPN encrypts the packets, they then can not tell what type of packet it is.

     

  7. Both orange and grapefruit juices used to be freshly squeezed until around 5 years ago, and they were chilled too.

    Now the standard is from a packet.

    Freshly squeezed is warm and for the grapefruit full of pith and not nice.

    Progress it is said.

  8. 5 hours ago, Travelcat2 said:

    And, the more their hearing is affected, the louder the music they require

    Travelcat2, actually the reverse is often true as I discovered when my hearing started failing. I have to have music much lower in volume now or it causes pain.

    A quote "People with noise induced hearing loss often have a reduced tolerance to loud sound in the same frequency range (sensitivity to sound)"

    http://www.hpaudiological.com/office/services/hearingLoss/typesofLoss

     

    For me I avoid all the entertainment onboard except a few minutes of cassical guitar when avalable. The volume in general is unbearable to me.

  9. An update, just off Mariner.

    In our suite both tvs were Samsung 690 series. Wireless screen mirroring works fine as does  playing back jpg photos and mp4 videos from a USB stick plugged into the tv.

    Still found 477 series in launderettes and whilst no screen mirroring would still play photos and videos from USB stick.

    BUT the Regent remotes will not allow selection of input nor will onboard controls so to view USB files or screen mirror you need a different remote or as I do use a universal remote app on a mobile phone that has an IR port.

  10. Last time I tried usb on tv is not blocked - very useful for charging phones, tablets etc. But the regent remote won't select it (and the magic button on the back bottom right won't either).

    It used to be the case that the remotes in the launderettes were proper ones so you just borrow one.  Sadly it only took a few to not return them and just hog them.

     

    Otherwise an ir blaster on a phone.

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