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48 minutes ago, evandbob said:
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Travelers who receive the COVID-19 shot will likely have confirmation of their vaccination digitally linked to their official passports.
Hopefully this will quell many peoples fears regarding travelling in the future and whilst I understand that some won't want a vaccine that's their choice but it's also good policy to separate them from those of us who require one.
If your an anti vaxxer you're probably going to have to wait a few years before travelling anywhere.
Wife and I are booked on Princess cruise ex Singapore oct 2021 and she was worried about sharing a ship with possibly infected Americans being allowed to travel but I believe this passport will sort that out.
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I can't see any cruises operating out of Australia this year given Covid19 cases are increasing.
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On 7/22/2020 at 12:21 PM, Kiwi Kruzer said:
I heard a comment yesterday that you wont see any cruising or travel ,
as we knew it , for at least 6 years .🛳😢😢🛳
Hi guys just popping by the boards to see if there is any positive news re Covid and cruising.
Six years sounds like a stretch though I could easily see 2 years.
Wife isn't impressed I retired this year and we had planned more cruises but for now it's stay at home, can't even take off to Port Stephens for a short break. Could be worse we could have the virus I guess.
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I guys, wife getting seriously restless so I thought I chase up cruising prospects again but alas the news is quite dire for those of us who are itching to get back out there.
It seems without an effective vaccine in place that has proven to work cruising to foreign destinations is out of the question for at least another 2 years.
We may see bubble cruises much earlier Home port to Home port no stops but I really can't see any long distance ocean cruising on the horizon.
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51 minutes ago, npcl said:
If you like technical investing the 50% fibonacci retracement point is about $13 dollar a share. The last couple of drops and bounces have followed the Fibonacci retracements nicely. If it follows it should hit resistance around that level. Will see if there is sufficient strength to carry the stock through that level.
CCL is certainly a stock one can make money in doing short term trades. I would not count on it being higher 2 month out though.
I personally can't see any cruise ships sailing within 6 months and probably much longer given the current Pandemic. There will no doubt be class action lawsuits against some companies and most ports would be gunshy regarding cruise ships until a vaccine is widely available.
The recent bump is stock prices should be viewed with caution then IMHO.
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On 3/30/2020 at 10:45 AM, Purvis1231 said:
I hope there will be cruises soon but with the cruise lines sending their folks home, and the president saying were are closed for at least another month, I am afraid the cruise industry will be forever changed. Thankfully, Trump did say he wants ships sailing again. But when they resume I am afraid there will be a lot less ships and eventually prices will be greatly increased
I think it's extremely doubtfull cruise ships will be allowed to operate until a vaccine is found and passengers can prove they have recieved it regardless of what Trump or anyone else wants.
Hope many ships are now just floating in the oceans riddled with Covid19 right now?
In Australia we have ships off our East and West coasts with the virus onboard and the government wants them to go away but I suspect they won't and will continue to just transfer people off the ships as they get sick indefinately.
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On 3/28/2020 at 6:08 AM, NYcruzzer said:
Do you really think cruiselines are going to wait another 15 months for a vaccine before sailing ?
Quite possibly yes given that authorities will make them liable for ANY issues arrise as a fresult of Covid19. Gone will be the goodwill that is in short supply right now, just look at Australia telling ships to bugger and go somewhere else with your infected ship.
Unless given the all clear by the authorities cruisers will be on their own next time they step foot on a vessel.
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Looks Australia is taking all the passengers off then flying them home to Germany.
7NEWS understands an elderly man with a life-threatening illness was removed from the ship and taken to Fiona Stanley Hospital.
The ship’s remaining passengers are still on board.
At least four ambulances remain stationed outside the ship
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5 hours ago, caribill said:
And the US Government says do not travel internationally at all, not just by cruise ship.
The Australian governement has banned all overseas travel for Australian citizens as of 2 days ago.
I seriously doubt any cruise ships will be running for at least another 6 months after what has happened.
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2 hours ago, Aus Traveller said:
I had the impression that the Navy might be used to evacuate any very ill passengers off the Artania. I would be very disappointed if the Western Australian government (or the Australian government) refused to meet their international obligations to give help to a ship in distress. There are seven (or is it ten) cases of the virus on the Artania and if any the condition of any of these people deteriorate, the medical centre on the ship would not be able to care for them adequately.
It's certainly an interesting story and I expect that WA would do the right thing regarding sick passengers but it appears they don't want to be resposible for the whole ship.
"Its home port is actually Germany...This ship needs to leave immediately. I want the Commonwealth to make that happen," McGowan told reporters in Perth.
If the seven ill passengers need to disembark for treatment, they will need to go to a government facility, such as a defense force base, he added. The Australian and German governments could then arrange for them to fly home after their treatment. Passengers will not be allowed to disembark in Australia except in the case of a "life-threatening emergency."
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1 minute ago, caribill said:
But if you look at the over 450,000 cases on land, hardly any can be traced to a cruise ship.
I'd have to disagree we have over 130 right now linked to just the Ruby Princess and there are other cases here in Australia linked to ships that have been here before. The MSC Magnifica was allowed to refuel but sent on it's way with plenty of people onboard reporting respiratory issues. I think currently there are quite a few ships will ill people on them at sea looking to offload passsengers.
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The whole situation is quite dire regarding cruise ships and I hope all vessels are parked up for a few months ASAP given the health risks involved. Apparently the Navy is about to chase a cruise ship the Artania from Australian waters off the coast of Freemantle and we have more due to arrive in NSW.
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2 minutes ago, Pushka said:
I think it's starting to edge out right now?
I did the same cruise in Oct on the Majestic, nice cruise but I hope Ruby doesn't come home with a bunch of symptomatic passengers in 2 weeks time.
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8 hours ago, chipmaster said:
What do you base the 0.3%? I agree it ain't 2-3, you simply saying that 90% of the people get it and don't get tested or realize they have it. Given the world wide press, hard to believe anyone with a fever / cough ain't seeking testing, and the larger limitation is the testing capability.
Regardless it is clear the transmission is very easy so even 0.3 on a huge world population is simply both tragic and going to be devastating
Yes thats what i'm suggesting that many people won't ever be tested given that many people who were positive reported few symptoms.
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4 minutes ago, geocruiser said:
This read I found interesting. I explained the death rate of the reg flu compared the corona.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-compared-to-flu-mortality-rates-2020-3
Ultimately the mortality rate will decrease significantly and I personally believe it sits at about 0.3% given that many millions of Chinese were probably infected and not ever tested. Europe and the USA are still in flu season so probably a lot of citizens are also infected who don't and probably will never know they even had this virus.
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4 minutes ago, Oceansaway17 said:
why china built a hospital in 5-6 days. Too bad back in December China did not listen to the whistle blower who got arrested and then the poor fellow also died.
The WHOLE WORLD will be studying this Virus and how it spread and what measures worked and did not work for years to come.
Watch CNN tonight Thursday at 10pm with Sanjay Gupta for a whole hour on this subject
World governments will learn a lot from this experience I think and when it's over I suspect that the Chinese approach will be seen as justified except for the secrecy bit early on though. I am not so confident western citizens especially those from the USA will respond in such a co-operative maner in country.
We have people fighting over dunny paper here in Australia right now !
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3 minutes ago, flyguyjake said:
Considering how botched the Diamond confinement went, USA better step up their game and handle it better. Time for USA to lead by example. I'd bet they disembark and place passengers in a land based quarantine.
The USA has a perfect opportunity to show it can do it better than Japan but I suspect it will be justy order everyone home to self quarantine.
I am of the opinion now that all susceptible persons on the planet try and self quarantine as trace and report now doesn't seem to be stopping the spread at all.
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This going to interesting if the turn up say 20 people with the virus, what then ?
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1 minute ago, resistk said:
The lines IMO are placing short terms revenue over the long term health of the industry.
Probably not far away from the Cruise Lines parking up for a while as it's only a matter of time before another ship records cases of Covid-19.
We have community transmission of this virus worldwide now and I really wouldn't want to be on a ship when an outbreak occurs.
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NEW: 2nd passenger of the Grand Princess cruise ship tests positive for coronavirus after returning home to California; patient is in critical condition
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Now Malaysia have banned passegers from the Westerdam from travelling.
“The remaining passengers on the Westerdam cruise ship, who are still in Cambodia, will not be allowed into Malaysia as the passengers are assumed to have been in close contact with the case which has been confirmed positive,” said Deputy Prime Minister Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail at a press conference today.
Wan Azizah explained that the American embassy in Kuala Lumpur had chartered a Malaysia Airlines flight to bring a group of people from the cruise ship to Malaysia.
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17 hours ago, Earthworm Jim said:
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Or unless you meant it was good news from a world health perspective, rather than a ship passenger perspective.
I meant good news regarding ending the situation as given there are so many infections the 19 Feb date wasn't going to stand anyway. I said to wife a week ago that Governments should start to take responsibilty for their own citizens rather than the Japanese authorities given the numbers involved.
I don't have a problem with the US further quarantining passengers and expect other govt's to do the same.
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7 minutes ago, shiny1 said:
Just reading the first case of Coronavirus involving a Westerdam passenger was confirmed by Malaysia today. An 83 year old US citizen. Her and her husband found to have symptoms as soon as they landed at Kuala Lumpur airport. The women tested positive and the man negative. They are under observation in a hospital.
Probably won't be the only Westerdam passenger who has Covid19 then if shés positive.
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This is quite good news and hopefully other governments will take their citizens off the ship as I don't see any other way to end the situation.
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Vaccination Certification?
in Ask a Cruise Question
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I suspect there will be plenty countries that will also insist on these measures before allowing potentially infected people to travel.