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10 hours ago, mcrcruiser said:
It comes to mind ,do all the people know every thing about every thing & have never a mistake in their entire life ?
Of course we all make mistakes and there´s nothing wrong with making mistakes and not knowing everything.
The point is how you deal with your mistakes and shortcomings in your knowledge. Most people will blame themselves for these and some will always try to find the fault with others for their own shortcomings.
You might want to think about ehich side you were on with this.🤔 Moss others on here realized it already, you might as well.😉
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Probably not the reaction the OP wanted to hear, but to answer the question in the thread title - Royals excellent customer service is obviously alive and well.
I applaude to their customer service for not giving away to the OP. There´s T&C´s set by the cruiseline and this is fully on the OP and not on Royal. Good for them to stand their ground and not break their own T&C´s for someone like the OP changing their mind for just a change in mood.
Good job RCI👍
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6 hours ago, bonsai3s said:
Yes, RCCL can require an excursion to leave the ship...rarely...the only one I can think of at this time is St. Petersburg, Russia. (Visa issues)
Not true in regards to Russia / St. Petersburg. Royal did not require an excursion to leave the ship.
If you had proper documentation you were free to go ashore with or without an excursion. Not Royal restricted anything, Russia set the entry rules for their country. Basically you had three choices, you either took a ship excursion and the cruiseline took care of the documents. Guided excursions were allowed ashore without visa by the local authorities. You could also book a private excursion and many companies would take care of the paperwork to get ashore. You could also get a Visa for Russia and having that you were allowed to go ashore on your own without any guidance.
With some countries there could be restrictions, but these are not restrictions by the cruiseline, it´s the visited countries rules that set the possibility of going ashore or not. You simply have to follow those rules.
However from experience I can think of another reason for not being able to go ashore without a shore excursion. Hellesylt in Norway to my mind. It´s the entry to the Geiranger Fjord and the ship only stops there briefly to let passengers with a full day shore excursion ashore that will meet the ship in Geiranger later in the day. Nobody without a shore excursion is allowed ashore there, not even to make a quick run outside to take pictures.
Then there´s technical stops when nobody at all will be allowed to go ashore but those are rare.
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I have to agree, you are more than lucky for getting a refund at all. IMO the excursion manager was more than gracious to do this. It was your choice to not participate and you had no reason to get a refund, but still got it.
I´m not small myself and I know what you are talking about, but still think what I said above.
I´m going to assume now, but from your post it sounds a bit like you and your partner would have struggeled in a row of two seats as well.
What do you need in writing? Why do you need anything in writing? What do you think will happen and what do you expect.
You need to let it go and you´d been better off to visit Santorini on your own and take in the great views from the little city and stroll the streets. Sorry partly you ruined the day yourself.
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47 minutes ago, orville99 said:
All cabin doors open in, and the door handles move down regardless of ship..
Wrong!!!
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54 minutes ago, UKWLDCruise said:
The Concordia in 2012 was probably the last time a big cruise ship really needed to use its lifeboats but you just never know.
Viking Sky 2019, I don´t think lifeboats were used, but for sure a call for muster and partial helicopter evacuation of the ship with 1373 people on board. Life boats wouldn´t have worked safely in the sea conditions.
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On 1/22/2021 at 1:27 AM, Glock said:
Can't wait to get back cruising, but I refuse to have a laser shot into my brain multiple times every day to test for temperature.
There must be another way.Sure, look here Nude Cruises - Royal Caribbean International - Cruise Critic Community, on these cruises the temp checks are taken rectal.
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17 hours ago, nomad098 said:
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Also interesting to note that many European leaders have been in touch with Anders Tegnell the person who orchestrated Sweden's response to covid-19
Not quite sure why you think this is interesting. To me it doesn´t really says much.
To me this is more like a standard procedure. If you are facing a new situation like this where no one has any experience, you start looking for best practice examples and to find those you have to look at the good ones as well as the bad ones. You have to take a look at bad practice examples as well as only that will make you find a good strategy. Having to find out what to do you need to find out what not to do as well.
In the end I don´t know if they talked to him or not, but it doesn´t seem like (m)any of the European countries adopted the Swedish system.
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I´ve not read this entire thread and to be honest I won´t.
But I´ve a few thoughts for all the mask denials, even though I know it won´t change much.
How many of you who say masks are not sufficient and even dangerous will want to go into surgery with the knowledge that the surgical team will breathe, sneeze, cough into your open wound without any mask protection? It is the same you do to others in this covid-pandemic with others by not wearing masks.
I wonder how many of those being anti-mask are also in the group of non-smokers and arguiing how the smokers are inconsiderate to others as they exhale smoke and kill others who have to breathe their second-hand smoke? Well if you don´t wear a mask, you as inconsiderate, as the air you exhale without a mask is much more likely to infect and kill others vs. your exhaled breathed going through a mask. So how many are accusing smokers but don´t do others the favor of mask wearing?
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11 hours ago, njkruzer said:
The question is who will get cancelled? Ask for volunteers?
That will be very easy. If the need arises they will simply cancel the booked itineraries completely cancel everybody and put the ship up for a different (maybe even just slightly different) cruise and sell that as a new cruise at limited capacity.
A bit like following the currently sailing ships who have had their scheduled itineraries cancelled and come up with itineraries that they sail now and nobody gets moved shifted from the original cruises to these.
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1 hour ago, Airbear232 said:
Good luck with the 4 weeks. Don’t see it happening if you leaving from us.
Thanks, of course I´m not sailing from the US. Nothing is set in stone these days, but I´m very confident it will happen, as this ship / itinerary is running for several weeks already. No guarantees of course and tomorrow something could happen, but I see no reason to be pessimistic.
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I need a Gangway down to the pier to get back on board.
I´m much more worried about flying right now than going on a cruise. So right now I chose cruises I can drive to.
On a ship it´s easy to social distance, not so much on a plane. Many currently sailing ships have good hygiene concepts and I feel safe going.
I do not think it needs a vaccine to restart cruising. I also don´t think it needs covid testing, as those tests are not giving a real safety. I can be negative tested upon boarding but still could be positive ue to exposure on the way to the pier. I don´t say don´t test, but I say don´t rely on the result.
I have no problem wearing a mask and social distance.
Looking forward to my next cruise in 4 weeks.
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Yes I would!
Actually I should say Yes I will in about 4 weeks from now getting on a ship again.😎 Can hardly wait.
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On 7/11/2020 at 8:58 AM, compman9 said:
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4. Stocked mini fridge in cabins
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I highly doubt there will be a stocked mini fridge.
Every hygiene concept for Hotels and ships I´ve seen so far included the point about empty mini-bars in the rooms.
It is rather easy to clean and disinfect an empty fridge, but if you put items in there they need to disinfect every single item that goes in there before putting it in there and again upon every change of guests. That´s just too much effort and cost prohibitive.
Things might change until RCI re-starts their operation, but those ships and hotels that have opened up again have an empty fridge policy. (This is the ones I´ve checked out, or in regards to Hotels - I´ve stayed at since Pandemic).
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On 7/5/2020 at 9:20 PM, bearette said:
One benefit then, but I wound not plan on it since it isn't written down.
Huh? It´s been written down on their website ever since they started it.
14 One Cruise Point for each completed night of sailing and an extra Cruise Point per night when you purchase and sail in suite accommodations (categories RL, RS, PS, SL, TS, A1, A2, A3, CL, OS, FS, GS, JS) and/or sail in any category and pay a single pricing type for double occupancy staterooms.
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1 hour ago, John&LaLa said:
Im no expert, but i'll bet your examples don't cover 5% of the cruise fleet capacity.
Who said it would even cover 0.1% of the cruise fleet capacity?😕
I simply stated "no cruising for anyone anywhere" is wrong and people are cruising again already in other parts of the world.
9 minutes ago, Roz said:Sounds like a homework assignment....🙄
Yep and I´m certainly not falling for it. @Jimbo can think whatever he wants, but some of those cruises have sailed already and some have disembarked their first cruises already and started the next round. He can do his own homework. He´s been proven wrong, but I know there´s people who can´t focus on reality and facts, but instead think i.e. if you don´t test there´s less cases.
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11 hours ago, Jimbo said:
Funny you should say it that way, We have yet to sail from abroad so I guess I don't think of cruising that way. When I thought April 2021 that was just from US ports.............Don't have a clue as to when sailings out of the country would start, I would think they would still need to get a plan in force as to how to make it safe for all cruisers and crew first.............Have yet to see or read about that happening?
I know when you go into retail stores around where I live besides everyone wearing mask and such, they have built protective screens around check out counters etc.
Does anyone know if anything additional is being built on ships currently to make it more safe? I mean right now all these ships are just sitting in the oceans, has anyone heard of any construction being done on the ships to get them Covid ready to sail?
Until you hear of something like that being done, they are just going to sit in the ocean.............and no cruising for anyone anywhere!
As it´s been said already, your point of view is a very narrow one. You are just looking at the US and most likely only at the big lines.
In a more broad view cruising has started up again already and cruises are underway / have been completed already.
The following is only cruises I know about and there might have been earlier ones worldwide. Also the following are only a few of those I know about, there´s actually more sailing again already....
First River cruise started as early as June 3rd in Germany and River cruising in Europe has started up quite a bit again.
A number of ocean going cruises have started in Norway with to my knowledge the first ones on June 16th and June 20th.
Another one started on June 26th from Germany.
A number of cruises from France are planned for July.
Cruising in French Polynesia starts up in July as well.
In Asia the Explorer Dream is planned to start end of July.
Costa just announced to restart in August.
Oh and just to tell you there´s a US cruiseline that plans to start their Alaska season on August 1st - UnCruise Adventures.
Will all these cruises have various limitations - YES!!!
Your "no cruising for anyone anywhere" is definitely WRONG!!!
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39 minutes ago, d9704011 said:
^^^^^
Probably better TV choices than the mainstream cruise lines.
But who would go on a cruise to watch TV?🤪
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50 minutes ago, nelblu said:
Understanding their frustrations, but what are the cruise lines supposed to do. Manufacture transportation and then what. Do you think that the cruise lines are happy to incur expenses for these folks when there's no discernible income coming in.
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't there was a thread that indicated that the Anthem was taking Indian crew members to their native country and weren't sure what would happen when they got there.
About a week ago, I was listening to a Metro morning sports show and one of the hosts was referring to an article (WSJ?) in which there were some 90k crew members stranded.
Where did I say I blame the cruiselines? I don´t blame the cruiselines at all. I was just responding to the Person who said there are worse places to be than to be stuck on a cruise ship.
I feel for those stuck on the ships without blaming anyone for the Situation.
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1 hour ago, Georgia_Peaches said:
I'm not unsympathetic...I'm not. But I can think of far worse things than being stuck on a cruise ship. Eventually, this will pass.
Well sure there are far worse places, but we are going on cruise ships to have a good time and we pay a lot of money to do so. The crew however is there to work and earn Money, in many cases to support not only themselves, but their Family back home.
Most of us have not been on a ship for this Long and we haven´t been "trapped" at sea with no Chance to go ashore for this Long either. To top this off, many of those being stuck now haven´t joined when all of this started, but they might have been at the end of their contract and been on the ship for many month already, working hard and Looking Forward to their vacation time and Meeting their Family and Friends again.
If you think there are worse Things, just ask yourself a couple of queations. How would you feel if you had spent a few month at your Job already without going home in the evening and meet Family and Friends and all of the sudden they tell you, you have to stay at work with no perspective About how Long this will last. So now you are stuck at work, with co-workers, bosses etc. 24/7, but you have Nothing to do, as your usual Job has been suspended as well.
We´ve read many comments on here About People being fed up with staying at home, just think About being stuck at work.
Bein an essential worker I´ve never had anything like that, but as much as I like my Job, I don´t want to be stuck there.
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Quantity won´t be a Problem at all.
I see them having a Quality Problem however for some time. We´ve seen such Problems in the past when large crew changeovers happened. This time they have to start with all new crews in the entire fleet. It will take time to get them into sync again.
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Not giving that guys website any traffic!
He´s an unethical ambulance chaser.
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17 minutes ago, red devil said:
What Economic impact does not having cruise ships (all) sailing? No food, liquid, fuel, port staff, luggage handlers, crew etc. Has to hurt a lot of places.
Wow, don´t tell me you´ve figuered this out all By your own. I´m sure you are the first one thining About this.
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2 hours ago, ipeeinthepool said:
After reading this thread, I'm convinced this was not a mistake by the TA or Royal. I think the TA and Royal intentionally did this to irritate Lloyd because neither want future bookings from him.
Now that makes sense.
Jim Van Fleet out at Royal, 1 down and 2 more need to go.
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I´d say you are wrong in your believes.
P&O Pacific Aria cruise liner that sailed through cyclone after leaving Brisbane is hit with lawsuit | Daily Mail Online
P&O is part of the Carnival Corp.
Norwegian:
"It was hell for me": Woman recalls cruise ship ride during "bomb cyclone" - CBS News
OK, not hurricane, but cyclone.