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    Liberty of the Seas 10/01/17 sailing with LGBT gathering

    in Royal Caribbean International

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    I'll add something else: Have you considered mentioning this in your post cruise survey?

    RCI are an LGBT friendly company, but I go back to my old point that it would be a nice gesture to the LGBT guests, especially as while society has evolved over the past couple of decades, there are still many places where we are not accepted, and a cruise ship should be the last place where anyone should feel unaccepted, isolated or out of the norm.

     

     

     

    Good points.

     

     

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    Liberty of the Seas 10/01/17 sailing with LGBT gathering

    in Royal Caribbean International

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    I found an estimate that around 6% of people are LGBT:

    5479/100 = 54.79

    54.79 * 6 = 328.74

    OK - my maths was wrong there. I got an A in my 4th year of high school and haven't done any since! :D

    Of course, some will be closeted, which I think is pretty awful, but about 200 people is still a big turnout.

    C&A and M&M events are not obligatory, but often have a big turnout. FOD meetings could have the same.

     

     

     

    Amen

     

     

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    Liberty of the Seas 10/01/17 and LGBT gathering

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    I suspect by "friendly" you mean GAY and friendly.

     

    I'm curious about two things:

     

    1. How are the cruise lines not satisfying your desire? A time and place announced in the activities paper seems to fit the bill.

     

    2. Why should the cruise lines do anything more than this for LGBT people which would be special treatment beyond that provided to the average passenger (translation: equal treatment)?

     

    I guess I'm not seeing some deficiency in providing accommodation that you see.

     

     

     

    1. We all know that being gay doesn't make a person friendly. My use of the adjective 'friendly' was in reference to all people accepting of LGBTQ. I'm a little surprised that the air of complacency has become so prevalent when there is still so much accepting and education to still be done. A sponsored event would help with this along with LGBTQ cruisers assistance in attendance at their own discretion.

     

    2. Having a sponsored event would not be any more special treatment than having the events for C&A members, CC members or any other demographic. Not discounting that RCCL doesn't already offer a LGBT social. As mentioned in the original post. It is common courtesy and being attentive to LGBTQ AND Friends by providing a social event with staff in attendance,I feel, might possibly help with attendance and positive environment.

     

     

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    Liberty of the Seas 10/01/17 and LGBT gathering

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    Hello, We are not new to cruising. And consider ourselves very much young, and fun loving. I agree that our relationships should be acceptable in a much broader aspect. Society is evolving to be less judgmental allowing us to be fairly treated across the board. For us it is not so much being “among our kind” as it is having a time and place to meet other friendly people in an environment promoting acceptance.

     

     

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    My opinion of Having a sponsored event would only assist in providing that kind of environment

     

     

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    Liberty of the Seas 10/01/17 and LGBT gathering

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    Are you relatively new to cruising? Are you young and vibrant in your well-earned marriage?

     

     

     

    These events are never hosted by a crew member to foster, promote or encourage participation. The crew is no more or less friendly to the LGBT than any other person on the ship.

     

     

     

    I've been to some FOD meetings that were rip-roarin' and some that were like a ghost town (more the latter than the former).

     

     

     

    It's just the way it is now that there is broader acceptance and less need to "be among our own kind". For those that still want it, it's available. Just don't be disappointed if no one else shows up to "hang".

     

     

     

    Hello, We are not new to cruising. And consider ourselves very much young, and fun loving. I agree that our relationships should be acceptable in a much broader aspect. Society is evolving to be less judgmental allowing us to be fairly treated across the board. For us it is not so much being “among our kind” as it is having a time and place to meet other friendly people in an environment promoting acceptance.

     

     

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    Liberty of the Seas 10/01/17 sailing with LGBT gathering

    in Royal Caribbean International

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    On RCI, the M&M is hosted by the Activities Manager (the Assistant to the Cruise Director) or occasionally even the Cruise Director.

     

    If they don't advertise something, then you can never tell how many people will turn up.

     

    Statistically, I heard that about 1 in 16 people are LGBT. If we were on a ship such as Harmony of the Seas, we are looking at about an average of around 900 LGBT people. Who are we to say that the event would have low attendance?

     

     

     

    LGBT people do still have a hard time in society, as I'm sure that your son would know about. Therefore, I do think that it would be a kind gesture by Royal to have something for us. Many staff on the ships are gay, so it would be a great thing for them to do as well.

     

     

     

    And the Crown and Anchor event is hosted, not mandatory attendance. And members attend in droves.

     

     

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    Liberty of the Seas 10/01/17 sailing with LGBT gathering

    in Royal Caribbean International

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    1 - The cruise line doing little for LGBT gatherings isn't acceptable, regardless if other cruise lines don't do much either. They should all change.

     

    2 - It is nice to have people that you have something in common with, not having that can cause isolation. Don't underestimate the fact that being gay in the 21st century can be very difficult, irrespective if society has evolved.

     

    3 - Again, a gathering would really help people to make friends. Some people will turn away from one if they learn that they are gay. Just as the M&M organised by Royal helps us on CC make friends, so too would an LGBT gathering help LGBT people.

     

    I know what I am talking about when it comes to LGBT issues. Whilst I don't talk about politics on this forum, I can go off on a bit of a tangent with this topic, so be careful!

     

     

     

    Amen! It is time for true acceptance in all environments. A sponsored event on all cruise lines including RCCL and its subsidiaries would help LGBTQ and friends not feel isolated. It makes such an impact when you can relate to others and share your experiences and life with others.

     

     

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    Liberty of the Seas 10/01/17 sailing with LGBT gathering

    in Royal Caribbean International

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    I've generally found that LGBT gatherings can be hit or miss. At best, I've hung out with 8-10 others, and at worst, no one else has been there. It varies from sailing to sailing.

     

    One variation that seems to have some impact is whether they list the gathering in the Cruise Compass or merely post it on the community board. Also, the time and/or location may be sub-optimal. One gathering, on Liberty of the Seas, in fact, back when she was sailing out of Cape Liberty, NJ, was scheduled at 10:00 PM in Olive or Twist. That was a fine venue except that at 10:30 PM on most nights, a live music group would come in and play music so loudly we couldn't converse. We'd often relocate to a quieter venue like the R Bar.

     

     

     

    Very true. It was posted in the Cruise Compass. Just wish Royal would have participated more like the other events. Almost felt like we were being pushed back in the closet. And I have way too many shoes to go back in there. Lol. Thanks for your thoughts and insight. We are going to try Princess out.

     

     

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    Liberty of the Seas 10/01/17 and LGBT gathering

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    My hubs and I cruised on this date. Overall, the cruise was relaxing and enjoyable. However, we felt like staff could have been more friendly and attentive. Many seemed like they were more bothered by guests than helpful. The MDR service really seemed to have gone down when compared to previous years. And the LGBT gathering in the R Bar was truly non existent. It really would have been nice to have had a staff member hosting the event. That might have made a difference and made other ‘family’ members feel more welcomed and increased attendance.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Liberty of the Seas 10/01/17 sailing with LGBT gathering

    in Royal Caribbean International

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    My hubs and I cruised on this date. Overall, the cruise was relaxing and enjoyable. However, we felt like staff could have been more friendly and attentive. Many seemed like they were more bothered by guests than helpful. The MDR service really seemed to have gone down when compared to previous years. And the LGBT gathering in the R Bar was truly non existent. It really would have been nice to have had a staff member hosting the event. That might have made a difference and made other ‘family’ members feel more welcomed and increased attendance.

     

     

     

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    Thanks for your insight. It will be my hubby and I with sister in law and brother in law traveling. I checked into the family suite which has two bedrooms. But it is sold. So probably going to go with two balconies

     

     

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