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16 minutes ago, ReneeFLL said:

Don’t be disappointed if you don’t get the answer you want now since things will most likely have changed by the time you cruise.

We aren’t booked until February so I’m certainly hoping things will be settled by then but will need to make a decision late fall because of flights and such from Canada. 

4 hours ago, easyqueasy said:

Why would your husband even want to get the vaccine if he has bad reactions to vaccines, with possibly the next shot killing him? I think the odds of getting COVID (extremely low and getting lower everyday) and dying from it are so minuscule I would not like the odds of a vaccine. 

Oh believe me he doesn’t based on past experience but in this messed up world right now - who knows what his options will be should we actually want to live our lives. 🤦🏼‍♀️

10 minutes ago, boscobeans said:

From studies here and abroad there is very little to link the two, if any.

 

People who have previously had Guillain-Barre syndrome (GBS)

People who have previously had GBS may receive a COVID-19 vaccine. To date, no cases of GBS have been reported following vaccination in participants in the mRNA COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials. One case of GBS was reported in a vaccinated participant in the Johnson & Johnson Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine clinical trial (compared to one GBS case among those who received placebo). With few exceptions, the independent Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) general best practice guidelines for immunization do not include a history of GBS as a precaution to vaccination with other vaccines.

 

Also this article informing Dr. A. Fauci that he should retract his warning where he stated that the Covid-19 vaccine should be avoided by persons with GBS in their past.

 

COVID-19 Vaccines and the GBS|CIDP Community - GBS/CIDP Foundation International (gbs-cidp.org)

Interesting information that I have not seen. I guess it will be up to his doctor to advise on it - she will either have to recommend he get it or substantiate her medical exemption as to why not.  I can understand his hesitation from past medical experience knowing that’s what triggered him almost dying. It’s not even recommended he get the flu shot so this is interesting to see. Definitely going to need another discussion with doctor on it.

Just now, PhoenixCruiser said:

 

With his medical issues do you really want him on a cruise ship during a pandemic?

GBS was triggered by vaccinations during his time in the service. Medical advice is to never get vaccinated with any vaccine again. The instance he had was one and only but even I was surprised his doctor did not even hesitate when we asked. The question was barely out of our mouths to ask about vaccine and she said no way no how unless you want to die. So long story short - this condition would only be triggered by vaccinations based on his medical history. Not to say that’s the be all end all answer but he’s comfortable cruising and is public facing everyday at this point. 

19 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said:

Isn't GBS triggered by a respiratory or gastrointestinal viral infection?  The last place that I would want to be is on an unvaccinated cruise with COVID still about and then there is also a chance of norovirus.

Your immune system basically attacks your nervous system:

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/guillain-barre-syndrome.html

There are tons of articles and studies about vets and GBS. A lot of has to do with the combination of the vaccines in short time periods like on needle parade where they basically line up before going overseas and get whatever they need all within a few hours.

1 hour ago, dswallow said:

 

So you just want to feel persecuted? Even if you're not? I hope not. Think about it. Why would Royal Caribbean want people in that position to contact them about making some arrangements if they would just treat them exactly the same as they treat the average unvaccinated passenger they would sell a ticket to anyway?

 

 

 

Not at all - I just want answers as to how they are handling medical exemptions. I gave sent my email off to them. I am chiming into conversation to give a different perspective that I don’t see many talk about. Not everyone has the choice on whether they get vaccinated is my point so there has to be some exceptions which as you’ve stated before will be to reach out which we’ve done. Just bringing a different perspective.

58 minutes ago, dswallow said:

 

What's the latest about letting Canadians out into the rest of the world? Is there a planned end date for travel limitations, or some expectation at least as to when it will stop being rolled forward every month?

At this point still required to isolate 3 days upon return in gov’t hotel until negative test results come in. We are just hoping by Feb that we will be able to test and come home. Obviously the travel restrictions will play a huge part in whether we even get to cruise. We’ll cross that bridge in the fall once cruises are sorted and see what travel looks like. 

2 minutes ago, Nymich said:

I don't see anything saying they will levy additional costs other than him having to have a test which I think is fair.  I agree with the thought process that this is to push people to get the vaccine.  Royal is going to do whatever helps the bottom line.

I am willing to pay a reasonable price and he’s willing to test for sure but being forced into certain areas of ship or restrictions doesn’t make sense to me from a medical issue standpoint which I in my own think is logical but nothing makes sense these days. 🤣

10 minutes ago, Nymich said:

Quite a few lawyers who would take that case.....just sayin

Possibly but we’re from Canada so that would be a task we’d rather not take on. I’m sure it will work itself out.

5 minutes ago, dswallow said:

 

Your husband should simply do what Royal Caribbean asks of people in his position. None of this discussion/nonsense otherwise will matter either way.

 

If I am not vaccinated for a disability or other reasons, who should I contact? | Royal Caribbean Cruises
 

Which we absolutely will but at this point no where does it say that just because he’s medically exempt he won’t be treated under the same regulations/requirements as someone who CHOOSE to not be vaccinated. We are waiting to hear back from RCL. 

And what about the people who medically can not get vaccinated? I haven’t seen much chatter about that. My husband served 27 years and had every vaccine under the sun - he eventually developed GBS from all the vaccine combinations etc and has been told the next vaccine he gets could very well kill based in his last experience which landed him hospitalized for months.

So where does this leave someone like him? He doesn’t have a choice whether to get vaccinated without possibly deciding between life and death. His doctor has issued him a medical exemption letter stating why. 
 

I am honestly wondering how they will treat him in that regard - he really shouldn’t have to endure extra costs due to a medical condition. Will be interesting if I ever get a response from RCL on it. We are booked in Feb but I don’t know if we’ll go if he’ll have restrictions that we don’t have being it’s not a choice for him.

I found my OBC no problem in my Cruise manager.

2 hours ago, JEANMR1 said:

Do people ever get the cheers package with DOU? This is my first time having it so I’m not really sure. I like to get my drink on while cruising but would rather not have to buy cheers. I just don’t wanna have to spend the same amount in the casino to get the free drinks. 
again, thanks. 

We are debating this. We actually don’t plan on gambling as much this cruise and we booked a Havana room so we’ll spend large majority of our time there vs casino so I think we might do Cheers anyway.

6 hours ago, Anyislandwilldo said:

Interesting topic.  We booked under DH casino offer and I have offers as well.  I am going to contact the ocean players club to make sure I get my DOU card as well.  Thanks everyone for your inputs.

For sure that’s my thoughts - I understand not getting extra OBC but the drinks on us would be awesome! 

10 hours ago, JEANMR1 said:

I had the same issue and called. Because my wife got the offer too, they said she could get the free drinks as well. 
I did have one question, can we get the free drinks at the casino bar or do we need to be playing at a machine or table?

thanks in advance. 

My understanding is actively playing.

3 minutes ago, IntrepidFromDC said:

If you want to be sure one way or the other, I suggest calling Carnival and after confirming your credentials and booking number, ask them if it's drinks for one or both.  Perhaps remind them that you both got the offer...

I found this and this is what I booked - thinking it will only be one of us who gets it…sigh.

9 minutes ago, IntrepidFromDC said:

If you found a way to book an offer using two VIFP numbers, please share.  From my experience, my daughter only gets free drinks in the casino for the offers that say "Free Drinks On Us! for you and one travel companion," otherwise it's just me (the recipient of the offer) if it says "Free Drinks on Us! while playing in the casino." 

 

Well I mean I used each of our numbers on our booking attached to our names.  We both had same offer - primary booking is under my number. That’s why I’m wondering if only one of us will get the drinks on us in the casino. 
I hope it was for you and one travel companion then cause that would kind of suck. Lol

So we just booked a cruise through a Players Club offer - $900 off cabin, free drinks on us and $1000 onboard credit. Both my husband and I had the same offer. If we booked that offer with both our VFIP numbers we should both get the drinks on us right? I know we’ll get the $1000 just for the cabin not individually but I’m hoping we’ll both get the drinks on us.