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  1. 30 minutes ago, xpcdoojk said:

    Have been to the UK many times, barely in Wales though, but most everywhere else.  Folks from the UK seem to identify by their traditional nationality, IE Welsh, Scot, Irish, etc.  When someone identifies themselves are British they are telling me, I am NOT ENGLISH.  

     

    By the way, I own a 2 year old Welsh Terrier (3rd one of those and this one is going to break me of that trend!).  

     

    JC

     

    Yes of course. Fiercely independent. You probably know we have our own sports teams, national anthems, own language (not everyone speaks it in wales - about 40%), definitely own culture.

     

    We're all governed centeally from London and we are all BRITISH according to passports. Wales, Scotland, N Ireland do have some devolved powers (not convinced it works).

     

    Saying that I've worked in England, studied in England etc etc (its about 30 mins drive to the border for me). When I worked there used to tell everyone I was an international commuter.

     

     

  2. 20 hours ago, Billy Baltic said:

    Op, we’ve only cruised in Europe and have only had a similar experience sailing out of Southampton. We were on a sailing to the med from Southampton where a lot of people had drinks packages included in the fare and it was chaos. On one of the sea days the pub on the royal promenade was overflowing at noon. Another day, we took our kids out of the lift, to make way for a woman being carried by her partner. That was around 2 - 3pm. Over the course of that Summer there were a number of fights where people were thrown out at the next port. 
    We’ve sailed western and eastern Mediterranean since and it’s a lot more family friendly. The odd idiot adult and loud child but that can happen anywhere. 

     

    Never done a Europe cruise but I can imagine.......

     

    Holiday flights from the UK to certain european destinations can be a bit like that. Couple of times seen group of lads early morning flight, totally smashed, misbehaving on plane, arriving then getting sent straight home.

  3. 5 hours ago, xpcdoojk said:

    Yeah, just you!🤣

     

    I think we have got it.  You are British, you are sailing with kids in a small room, and since you have responsibilities you don’t appreciate people going full party mode.

     

    I am not British, and I don’t go full party mode, and I don’t appreciate those things as well.  Obnoxious people exist from everywhere.  Some of them are on cruises, some on airplanes, some at hotels, some at bars, some post on the internet, and some at theme parks.   Painting by nation with broad brushes is silly…. JMHO and YMMV

     

    jc

     

    Oh don't get me wrong I'm in no way trying to paint the nation with a broad brush. 26 vacations to the US in 27 years will tell you that I'm a pretty big fan of the US!

     

    If anything, I avoid areas in Florida (International Drive in Orlando for instance) that Brits tend to populate. Don't get me going how some Brits refuse to tip the correct amount because "we don't do that much in the UK". In my mind, your country, your customs I'm just a visitor.

     

    BTW - impressed to be called British not English. (British but NOT English - I'm from Wales - something that confuses a lot of people in the US)

  4. 13 hours ago, allyfree said:

    We hate Quantum class with a passion ... as the OP is UK-based, he'll understand why when I say my hubby calls it Butlins Afloat ! We've been on it several times in the last few years as the only RCI option out of Southampton but, as others have said, we mostly stick to the solarium and Vintages - they don't even have a decent library !!!

     

    Oh yes it is like floating Butlins....

  5. 30 minutes ago, toxicfairy said:

    Sadly a LOT of people go on vacation with the "I'm on vacation someone else can handle my kids" mentality.  We've seen it more than we care to. We've actually heard people say " I don't care, I'm on vacation " when someone said something about the misbehaving child. 

    Also that " I paid for it" , Yes well so has everyone else on the ship and they aren't your babysitters.

    And yes that thought that they need to get their monies worth from the drink package.

    Nothing will change until rules are enforced .

    I love royal caribbean but I hate how they've become so " family oriented " that it's just a giant day care , for both children and drunks.

     

    With you on that - got friends like that to be honest. I just don't get it. 

    Friends attitude is "its my holiday too" as in I'll get drunk in front of my kids and I dont care.

     

    Did see a few instances on last cruise with parents with toddlers screaming and they're oblivious with a drink in their hand.

     

  6. 15 hours ago, sunlover12 said:

    It's a personal choice.  For me, the specialty restaurants are worth the extra money.  The food and service are so much better. I was on Wonder for the first time earlier this year and was very displeased with the main dining room. 

    Thanks for your review. 

     

    I guess part of it is, like I said, we're from the UK. When we come on vacation its usually for 2-3 weeks so part of the time is in Florida.

     

    I guess you'll probably find it hard to believe but restaurants like Outback, Longhorn, etc are something that we don't get in the UK (in terms of quality and quantity of food) so we're more than happy to go to these places when we're off the boat. I guess with you guys based in the US you don't want to go to chain restaurant that you can go to every day of the week anyway.

     

    Never used to have subway in the uk (theres tons of them now) we ALWAYS went to subway in FL. Of course, now we don't. We've had McD, Burger King, KFC for years in the UK so we don't go there - but we do go Wendys, SteaknShake etc.

     

    Now you're going to think I'm really sad. We have ONE Dennys in Wales - its about an hours drive away from us. Yeh we go there sometimes.

  7. Just now, OCSC Mike said:

     

    Oh I get it. You don't have much of a choice and I wasn't suggesting you avoid the main pool just b/c we do. We don't have kids although we mainly prefer the Solarium to get away from the crowds and the sun, not the kids.

     

    I was mostly thinking out loud why I don't encounter what others do.

     

    No prob Mike - if I didn't have kids I'd do the same. Chill in the Solarium and avoid the main pool.

    Yeh did try to avoid it but 10 year olds have to go in the pool lol. 

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  8. 3 minutes ago, OCSC Mike said:

    Maybe it's because we avoid the main pool area like the plague and don't hang out in the bars but I somehow never experience anything like this, including on Wonder in June.

     

    I fully believe you guys so I can only assume it's b/c we're boring, lol. We spend our time in the Solarium, go to trivia, see shows, go to game shows... and of course I spend plenty of time eating.

     

    We did see one extremely drunk girl in the Music Hall one night... and my young nieces were quite amused by her attempt at "dancing."

     

    Yeh the main pool area is the worse. BUT when you've got a 10 year old who wants to go in the pool, wants to go get an ice cream you have no choice. And of course there are bars near the pool.

     

    Solarium is good (when said 10 yr old is in kids club) and yes we did do most of the things you did.

     

    We did, however, see a few people in the lift being really drunk. Its just not cool....

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  9. 1 minute ago, DamonG said:

     

    I get your overall point, but if you are wanting a quiet vacation away from others, sailing on the largest cruise ship in the world will not be the best fit your wants.

     

    Maybe. Not so much away from others I'd say maybe away from others who want to be loud and boisterous.....

    Not sure if there were only 500 people on a smaller boat you'd be able to avoid though.....

    Seriously thinking next year, Disney Cruise. Yes its more expensive but, surely, no-one goes on there with the intent of having a 7 days drinking party? Or do they lol? 

  10. 1 minute ago, Engineroom Snipe said:

     

    This is not something that is happening only on RCI. I call this a possible downside of the Unlimited Drink Package meets "Oh, there are lifeguards on duty" combined with "I want to get my money's worth out of the drink package (which normally means at least 6 drinks in general per person or more)."

     

    You were onboard a ship that can easily handle 6,000 passengers and it has been sailing with more for almost all of this year.

     

    Even if a small percentage, say 5% or 300 tend to drink more than they can handle, those 300 can seem like 3,000. I have seen this happen on many vacations to include non-cruise vacations.

     

    I wish I knew the answer.

     

    Different ships have different vibes at different times of the year. Maybe talk to your travel agent about a "quieter" ship at a different time period.

     

    I guess. Drinks package aint cheap. For two I think for the 7 days it would work out something like $1300-$1400 per couple. Each to his own I suppose but I've got better things to spend my money on.....

     

    But I can see if you've spent this much, hey might as well drink to oblivion. Not for me....

     

    It did seem though that me not drinking was not the norm though I must admit. I'm sure it wasn't like you say. 

     

    Perhaps its because I'm British but I find that someone standing one end of the pool screaming "Whooooaaa lets go - Vacation 2023!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" to someone at the other end certainly lacks a bit of decorum (for want of another word). I want to go on holidays and do what I want to do without interacting with others. If you've had a drink or having fun then the 400 people all around do not need to know this!

     

    Perhaps it is me lol.

     

    Don't get me wrong, theres a massive binge drinking culture with youngsters here in the UK (of course 18 is the age too) but thats restricted to city centres at the weekends (so you avoid this!). OK yes kids going to europe on holidays is also a problem for the same reason - again avoid certain European beach resorts.......

     

    Its just all a bit alien to me being in a family environment seeing "older" (ok 30s, 40s) drinking to excess like this.... And to be honest getting overexcited.

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  11. Nice ship.... Food was great. Really just don't get the idea of paying a lot of $s extra to use the premium restaurants though.....

     

    Balcony room was nice. Would I do again with a 10 year old and a 19 year old. No.... Not that big.

     

    One thing that really put us off though. Don't get me wrong I'm not teetotal but when I go on holidays with my kids I tend not to want to get hammered. Ship seemed half full of people - a lot with little kids in tow - intent on getting hammered 24 hours a day. I don't get it.

     

    Appreciate that in the US, a lot of people don't get a lot of vacation time each year but there really does seem to be a MASSIVE culture of "lets party and get drunk for a week". Maybe its me? Are all cruises like this?

     

    I mean I don't mind people drinking at all but it got a bit tiring watching hammered 30/40 something in the pool with their kids screaming, shouting and whooping at 2pm in the afternoon.

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