Oceangal711

Saw you posted the daily. Was there a paper copy in your stateroom. I thought I read that there were not going to be paper copies.

On 5/29/2020 at 1:13 PM, fastpitchdad said:

 

So if every Casino was non-smoking you would quit gambling? 

Casinos aren't the only place to gamble. Our Knights of Columbus halls have slot machines and poker nights. Of course if you went in and asked them they would deny it. I'm sure if all casinos were smoke free they would be cheering.

On 5/28/2020 at 4:37 AM, Casino Comp Chick said:

Not true. I live 15-20 minutes from a non smoking casino that I do not go to. I would rather drive 2.5 hours and go to a casino I can smoke in. 
Same thing with restaurants, if they do not have an outdoor deck I can smoke on, I do not go there either.

Don't make blanket assumptions due to your own bias as people who assume............

You must be my neighbor. Resorts world. Never stepped foot in the place. Actually never went to any NY casino because of the smoking laws.

On 5/28/2020 at 12:08 AM, fastpitchdad said:

 

But that is the point. Smokers will still gamble just like they still went to bars and drank and the net effect was an overall increase in business. If I owned a Casino and the rule was that Casino's would not allow smoking then I would be very confident my business would increase. 

Some will but some won't. I have never gambled in my home state of NY no smoking means I won't spend my money there. As far as the bars here are concerned when they implemented no smoking many went to private clubs as to skirt the rules. You pay a small membership dues for the privilege of  drinking and smoking in peace.

On 6/10/2020 at 2:38 PM, Knicks1130 said:

Gen is not returning to service until 12/12/20.... dry dock is scheduled for right before that in Boston... Looks like they are still doing it

I hope so just booked for 1/28/21

Are any ships drydocking? The Pride of America was supposed to during May, can't tell if she did or not. The Gem and the Epic were going to in late fall.

7 hours ago, coriemarie said:

Can anyone confirm that the Escape still has the pool side smoking, and H20? I am considering rebooking my Encore cruise to go on the Escape.

Was on the Escape in October. Smoking areas were spice H2O, Waves bar deck 17 and the casino. They did allow you to smoke in the cigar room.

9 hours ago, mesci14 said:

non smoking was fairly full when we went on it, but smoking area casino was not as full.

I think at this time most smokers have moved on from NCL. Having to stay in an enclosed box just doesn't give off a vacation vibe. By the time the Leonardo ships come out they won't need any smoking areas.

34 minutes ago, tallnthensome said:

167 is correct . They don’t even tell you what the offer is. You have to click on a cruise and do a mock booking To the point of room and perks selection and that is where you see the mention of the 20% off and extra point. It is not a perk that is mentioned that I see until you get to the end of a specific cruise booking. It’s buried in the transaction. 

 Thank you so much I would have never thought of that I'll take a look tonight

55 minutes ago, tallnthensome said:

...... if you look way at the bottom of the same page you don’t see the “click here to view this months insider offer”?

Yes and when I click it I get the 167 cruises showing 20% off. Thanks for your help. Don't know why I'm not seeing them.

1 hour ago, tallnthensome said:

Are you looking under the Latitudes Rewards tab in your profile after logging into your account? 

Yes I only see the 20% off

I just logged in and looked and I didn't see any cruises listed as double points. How am I missing it?

Just now, graphicguy said:

You asked the question of me.  I gave you my answer.

Long winded at best.

7 minutes ago, graphicguy said:

They're specifically talking about smoking in this thread.

 

But, to answer your question....at the end of my workday, probably 2-3 times/week, I pour myself a bourbon on the rocks.  My "go to" Bourbons are Jefferson Reserve, Basil Hayden, or Russel Reserve.  Sometimes I treat myself with a much more expensive bourbon, but these are my staples.  I probably buy 750 ml of one of these about every 5-4 weeks.  They cost right around $30/bottle.  To me, that's not expensive.

 

Gambling?  Not sure how much anybody else gambles, but I know how much I spend.  I cruise 2-3x/year.  Those are the only times I gamble.  If I am up or down $200 in any given year, I'd be shocked.

 

Overeating?  I don't eat out much.  I probably should eat more fruits and veggies, but I eat my fair share.  I like ribeyes and will probably grill one every week.  Coffee, milk, eggs, produce, proteins....all in?  I probably spend $50-$75/week.  But, I'd spend that either way.  We have to eat.

 

Smoking?  Let's say on average you buy $50/week in cigarettes.  That's every week.  That's $2,600/year.  And, that's a nice cruise in a nice cabin you could have every year if you don't smoke or quit smoking.

 

Put it another way, if you just stuck that $2,600/yr in the bank, at current interest rates, in 10 years you'd have $35,000 (probably a lot more if you diversified it a little bit).

 

But, that's not the question asked here.  NCL is NOT going to charge a fee to allow anyone to smoke anywhere outside of the designated smoking areas, and those areas are shrinking.

Hey was only breaking up a slow work day. TMI 

1 hour ago, graphicguy said:

And the answer to the question, as has been stated by the vast majority here is “NO”!

 

Maybe a small minority would (smokers obviously).

 

You can spin it any way you want.  

 

The answer is still NO!

 

Let me ask you a question.  From what I understand, a pack of cigarettes costs $5, if I’ve been reading correctly.  I don’t know how much someone smokes on a given day.....a ½ pack?  A whole pack?  2 Packs?  I dunno.  Obviously an expensive habit.

 

So, if you would add the cost of purchasing cigarettes to your cruise, and another $500 for the privilege of smoking in a designated smoking area, would you?

 

What would the cost have to be before you say “that’s too much....I won’t pay that”?

 

Understand that any cruise line will have a hard time getting full fares for a cabin that’s been smoked in (same with most hotels, today).  That’s a financial burden for cleaning (which you never really clean the smell) as well as getting full fare for the cruise line.  They might even charge more than $500.

 Aren't all vices expensive. Whether it be smoking, drinking, gambling, overeating.

5 minutes ago, Two Wheels Only said:

 

Making a generalization about millions of people is.....(right or wrong)?

Yep you got me! Guess you can call me an arrogant American. We earned our title. 

1 minute ago, Two Wheels Only said:

 

Does anyone else see it? Grouping a whole continent is one thing but grouping "the rest of the world"....?

This made me chuckle. That's what you took away from it. Wow just wow. 

2 hours ago, Birdie And Sue said:

 

 

Ah I misunderstood your original response.  I thought you were talking about European sailings on NCL for example.  Yeah I agree the Europeans are either much more ignorant of the dangers of smoking or a just plain stupid enough to not care.

Wow that’s a very harsh comment to group a whole continent as stupid. No wonder the rest of the world thinks Americans are arrogant. What they are smart enough to avoid is heart disease and stroke, high blood pressure and diabetes plus all other ailments associated with obesity. But hey who’s judging!

1 hour ago, Birdie And Sue said:

You mus be well into your 70s (or older) to make such a statement.  It really does not matter what attitude Europeans have.  It is the cruise line owners who matter.

Yes and the owners of the European lines have much loser rules than the American market they cater to their clientele. The cruise lines here are not the only lines in the world there any many others. We have a TUI booked and one on Mein Schiff out of Jamaica this winter. It's a great big world.

1 hour ago, Birdie And Sue said:

 

It may take them longer but they will be there too eventually.

 

Not in our lifetime. The Europeans have very different attitude when it comes to smoking. Just home from a 3 week vacation in Italy and Greece and smoking, drinking and the least  amount of swimwear you can wear are still common place.

3 minutes ago, sanger727 said:

 

Disagree. Think celebrity is the most restrictive American line. I know that casinos are completely smoke free. I think they have absolutely no indoor smoking areas.

You are right. They are I have never been on celebrity. Guess the were always off my radar.

3 hours ago, graphicguy said:

NCL is getting pretty restrictive on their newer ships with regards to smoking areas (or lack thereof).  I suspect as their other ships come in for a refurb/dry dock, that trend will continue with what they’ve done on the Bliss, Joy, Encore, etc.

 

I’m a non-smoker, and have no dog in this hunt.  I’m not a non-smoking zealot, either.  Just someone observing what’s happening, and smoking is being phased out on NCL’s ships, sooner rather than later.

Agreed Ncl is the most restrictive American line. I think most smokers have found other lines to cruise with at this point. So they might as well outright ban it.

5 hours ago, pinkie60 said:

I am assuming that most people that are replying to this subject are from North America (USA, Canada and Mexico). However, I’ve got a question. The cruises that are in Europe and Asia do they restrict smoking on their ships in Europe and Asia.  The Europeans and Asian people are notorious smokers. As for me, never smoked a day in my life but the cruise ships keep enough smoke away from me that I have no problem at all on ships.  I did notice that the Carnival ships smell more Smokey than the Norwegian ships.  Can anyone answer my question. TYIA

No they don't. We have switched to the European lines and they are very smoker friendly.

14 hours ago, Birdie And Sue said:

You al do realize that at some point sooner or later all cruise on all cruise lines will be 100% smoke free, right?  I'm not saying it is gong to eb any time soon, but it absolutely will happen at some point.  What was tried in the past is of no concern or relevance at all.  The fact is society in general is slowly but surely moving towards being smoke free.  Cruiss ships will be at that point sometime down the road.

 The American lines probably but not the European or Asian lines

To answer your question yes I would pay extra for a place like the Vibe that you could smoke in. We loved the waterfront on the Breakaway when you could smoke out there. It was a great place to hang out and have a drink and my husband could smoke his cigar and relax.