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4 minutes ago, ronbe65 said:

I do agree, however it was said in the beginning of April.

 

Happy cruising!

Some paid deposits well before April.

20 minutes ago, topaz123 said:

Beginning to think Booking a Cruise now, is the same as a loan to Carnival.

I cannot think of any other business where one would pay a deposit to then be told the service for which the deposit was paid cannot happen due to no fault of their own and in order to keep your deposit, pay us more and we’ll provide that service sometime in the future or we’ll just keep your deposit.
 

4 minutes ago, conwakr said:

Because it is deceitful and dishonest if they have no intent to deliver what they are anticipating that people will pay for in the next couple weeks?   If they announce those cancellations next week that would be honorable. 

My point exactly!

2 hours ago, Cruiseboy06 said:

if they are planning to cancel October cruises and beyond, likely they will JMO, they could do it by mid July to beginning of August..

After final payments, for October cruises have been made or deposits ‘forfeited’ for not making final payment.  Why cancel now, they can get more money if they wait to cancel?

Given the uncertainty...

Why is Carnival not automatically delaying when final payments are due?

Why is Carnival not allowing deposit to deposit transfers for future cruises?

Because it is not financially advantageous for them to do either of those.

Deposits paid on cruises that Carnival cannot commit to honoring... why should anyone have to lose their deposit if Carnival cannot provide the cruise in which the deposit was paid?  Why is it considered an automatic cancellation if those who have paid the deposit do not want to contribute more funds to Carnival for a cruise that very likely will not happen?

10 hours ago, drsel said:

If they collect only a $50 deposit for a cruise which is later cancelled, I don't think it is deceitful.

we are all hoping that cruises will restart soon and we don't expect them to default on $50

Some have paid more than a $50 deposit.  At what amount would you consider it deceitful?

25 minutes ago, JB Books said:

Noticed that on my HAL California coast cruise, available new bookings have the final payment due in only a few days. However, I booked a few weeks ago and my final payment isn't due until mid-August. What significance do you think that has?

A push to get more money prior to announcing cancellations.

4 minutes ago, K&RCurt said:

 

I agree that is likely what their strategy is.  I am happy to lose my $100 deposit to not give Carnival $2k to play with until who knows when.  If they have not issued any concrete reason for why all of the 6+ day cruises are not showing for October or explain their plan regarding how they figure our Oct 25th cruise will actually sail then I will cancel and they can have the $100.

Our deposit is $200 and not happy to lose it considering we shouldn’t have to. A simple deposit transfer is all that is needed, but then any additional funds required would be delayed. That would not work in their favor, so why do it?

Interesting that they require final payment on a cruise that they cannot commit to fulfilling.

Wonder how much interest they are making on all of the funds that they have received, are holding, either for not refunding for 90+ days or for those holding onto the hope that one day they will cruise.

On 6/22/2020 at 1:24 PM, Cruisesfun65 said:

We all know now that the official cruise pause is until Sept 30th.

But why are all the 6+ sailings suddenly unavailable for October???

Only 3, 4 and 5 day cruises open for booking.

Please don't say it's a reduced capacity issue, as that is a myth. No cruise line introduced reduced capacity sailing yet and every time a sailing has disappeared online it's been canceled shortly after. 

Having 2 short October cruises booked, I'm confused as to why these are still available. 

Well, think about it this way...

October cruises not canceled as final payment is due soon.  Carnival is expecting folks to pay that final payment.  If cruise canceled, no final payment made, Carnival does not receive those funds.  So, why would they cancel?

Talked to the PVP, per that conversation:

Those booked for October and November cruises cannot make changes without incurring a penalty.

Does not matter the date of the booked cruise, if booked for October or November.

If the penalty is removed, allowing those booked for a cruise in either of those months, then any funds paid would be a future cruise credit and cannot be used as a deposit for a future cruise.

So, it appears that if you want to keep your deposit, one must make the final payment regardless of whether the cruise will happen or not.

If the penalty is removed, one is allowed to reschedule, an additional deposit would be required.

There are no deposit to deposit transfers allowed.

Regardless, Carnival is requiring additional funds, by either making final payment or requiring additional deposit in order to retain the deposit already paid.

Therefore, one has to make the decision as to whether they are willing to lose the deposit already paid or investing more funds in a cruise that probably won’t happen.

Considering the current state of affairs, a deposit to deposit transfer should be allowed.

The DOU can be quite expensive waiting for the staff to bring drinks, if you continue to play while waiting for your drink.  For us, DOU is not really considered a perk considering the true cost of what it takes to get ‘free’ drinks.

Yes.  At least it did October 2018.

Per Carnival website:  Due to Texas state laws, DOU is not available on embarkation day for sailings departing from Galveston, TX.