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those cruises are not allowed by NVMC/US Coast Guard and the CBP.

Silas maybe?

Yeah for the looks of it, USVI, BVI and Puerto Rico are off limits for cruise ships at the moment...

Encore docked in Puerto Plata (Taino Bay) last Friday DEC 24.

23 minutes ago, MrMarc said:

I predict that, even though a bunch of people are happy right now, that giving this power to the Courts is going to end up being a bad thing for everyone.  Even now, the Judge is basically telling the CDC how to make rules, and he is going to decide if they are correct or not.

And a judge is not an epidemiologist. Very bad form and precedent in my opinion.

Very surprised with this ruling.

Have to say though, Judge Merryday has just given the cruise industry enough rope to do you know what. The CDC will now wash their hands and finger point back to the magistrate in case something goes south (And not a question or if but when).

One major covid outbreak on a ship out of Florida and the industry is finished.

Interesting times ahead. How will this temporary 30 day injunction affect the Alaska season? Are cruises out of Seattle in danger as we speak?

Not suprising. Expect RCL and NCL to foloow suit.

2 minutes ago, pc_load_letter said:

 

Exactly. Here in San Diego, gyms are open, lots of people in restatarunts and Costco was PACKED....There was NO social distacing there for sure.

 

As others have said, I would feel increadibly more safe on a ship that is cleaned by the minute versus any of my above examples.

The problem with COVID is that it is an AIRBORNE virus and can remain in that state for up to 3 hours. No amount of surface cleaning and disinfecting will ever get rid of it 100%.

10 minutes ago, regoodwinjr said:

Pretty much incorporates a lot of what CLIA and the cruise lines have proposed so they will be sailing soon not November but probably before the end of the year. The no sail order would still be in place if they're not going to be ready till the spring.

Did you read the framework for "Conditional Sailing" starting around page 19?

Cruise operators must conduct simulation voyages with "volunteer" subjects (18 years and older) and after demonstrating that they are capable to meet these new orders and have effective COVID mitigation plans in place, then they will be able to obtain a CDC issued COVID Conditional Sailing certificate to operate vessels in the jurisdiction of US waters and ports.

That doesn't sound to me that is something they can get done in 60 days, much less 30 days as you alluded to.

14 minutes ago, kdr69 said:

A step forward i believe finally 

Perhaps, but also one littered with new obstacles and challenges. And if you read the 40-Page order, the CDC is leaving the door open to additional mandates and regulations.

I see a very difficult start ahead and any meaningful resumption of service will not happen until Spring in earnest.

This is essentially and amended NOS now turn into permanent regulation

This is a very serious development.

Interesting. Getaway was just on a major dry dock last year.

4 minutes ago, BoundForSea said:

Has anyone found any info that got leaked from that call?  Seems they kept it pretty quiet. 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/readout-vice-presidents-call-u-s-cruise-industry/

Round of cancellations just announced this morning:

-  Voluntary suspension of all voyages through November 2020

- Cruises on Norwegian Star, Spirit and Dawn suspended through March 2021

- Guests who had an active reservation on a suspended cruises in November 2020 through March 2021 will automatically receive a refund of their cruise fare in the original form of a payment for the amount paid within 25 days. Additionally, a 10% off coupon will be automatically added to the guest's account which is valid for one year from date of issue, and can be used for any Norwegian Cruise Line voyage embarking through 2022 and is combinable with any FCCs and all future promotions at time of booking.

source: www.ncl.com

Both ships will likely return to Marseille early this week.