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4 hours ago, legaljen1969 said:

Fair enough, I see your point.  I do wonder though, is there not some other possible way this could be investigated without the grandfather being arrested?
I don't think the man has dementia. Clearly, I don't know.  I really think this is just a very poor lapse of judgment that resulted in a tragic end.  No matter what happens in this case,  this family is irreparably fractured.  Even if the world's enquiring minds get the "whole story," nothing is going to make this any better. Ever.  It's just all so very sad.
Yes, this poor baby needs to rest in peace. 

Thank you and yes I agree, nothing will make this situation better, it's totally tragic.

1 hour ago, legaljen1969 said:

I just don't know who will insist on the grandfather going to prison for such a tragic accident.   I guess if I were on the jury, there would be a hung jury because there is no way I am voting to send this grandfather to prison for something like this. Its a terrible thing, but when there are people out there selling their babies for meth and they aren't going to prison and this grandfather who had a terrible lapse of judgment is being condemned- there is something wrong with our world.

OMG,  I never said prison.  I said he should be arrested for negligence.  Whether intentional or not, it still was.  I feel like I'm playing the telephone game where i say something and it comes out different from you.  I was just trying to make a point that the parents are looking in the wrong direction for blame.  There is more to the story than is being told.  Does the man have dementia?  I don't know what, but only they know for sure.  But in any case, please stop quoting me and twisting my words.   I personally find it completely offensive that you are doing that.  I tried to say it nicely before, now I'm just going to tell you to stop.

I also said that that baby should rest in peace.  I'd like to leave it like that.  

1 minute ago, Pauser said:

True. But it clearly showed that the windows were green, and when opened, it was a clear space. To me it was obvious where the windows were opened. I understand how these parents must be feeling - my heart goes out to them. But it really just seems like the grandfather made a poor decision and there were terrible consequences which none of them can quite come to terms with. The insurance company for the cruise line will probably just settle with them as there would be much negative publicity in fighting a family that lost a young child. 

It's actually very difficult to sue a cruise line because of Maritime law.  I actually don't think that they will settle.  Only time will tell.  It will go away and nobody will ever hear about it again.

Just now, legaljen1969 said:

WHY should the grandfather have been arrested?   What he did was a terrible tragedy but I am not seeing anything that leads me to believe he once for a minute thought "You know what would be fun? You know what would make me happy? I think I am going to lift my grandchild up to an open window and watch  her plummet to her death.  It's going to be so wonderful watching her mother scream in agony and see her splat on the pavement. Yep, that's what I want to do on my cruise."  Give me a freaking break.

People are arrested all the time where I live for negligence.  I never said he threw the baby out of the window.  I said the story didn't make sense.  that there is more.  Youre just filling in my blanks with your own.  But we seem to agree.  There are blanks

On 7/9/2019 at 7:32 PM, NLH Arizona said:

What I don't understand is while they are grieving the death of their child, the first thing they do, probably before they bury her, is to call an attorney. Just shows what our society has come to:  blame someone else and try to make money.  Sad.

 

May the little girl RIP.

 

 

Exactly!!!!  That poor child isn't even cold and they called and attorney.  They should have called the police and arrested that poor grandfather who will NEVER be able to at look himself in the mirror again.  It's probably easier to blame the cruise line then to blame your father or father in law for being the stupidest human on the planet.   I know that sounds harsh, but come on.  The windows are clearly tinted green.  And isn't there a breeze or some sort of sound from an open window?  And wasn't he holding her?  Too many unanswered questions.  I just have to think that nobody is really that stupid.  With all the entertainment around, why do that with the baby?  Was the baby crying?  There has to be more to the story.

Whatever happened on that ship we will probably never know.  I hope they get nothing from RC.  More importantly, I hope that baby rest in sweet heavenly peace. ❤️

On 6/26/2019 at 7:54 PM, CruisinMaterial said:

I was on Rome to Rome and got off before you arrived in Cannes, France for your experience but the prior week's Cannes stop which I got to experience... tendering was a diabolical mess. Everyone got off the ship early and then tried to return in the afternoon at the same time. It took over 2 hours to get everyone back on the ship and we left late. Hopefully your sailing had more on time and arrivals than my sailing did (which overlapped yours by Barcelona and Naples which both were on time departures).

 

Hopefully your Glow Party was at Spice H2O, during the first leg of our sailing nothing was held up at Spice H2O. It was a really off cruise, especially after having sailed the Epic before.

Why wasn't your Glow party at Spice H2O?  Where was it held?

This was an absolute blast to read and to look through your pictures.  Thanks so much for taking the time to take them and post them.  The food looks so yummy and the ship looks amazing.  We booked a tour in Cannes and they warned us about getting off early or they would not wait for us and it would be non refundable.  Now I see that there is really a problem in this area.   Can you request an early tender?  If you have a mini suite or if you are a past cruiser does that give you any priority?

On 6/25/2019 at 10:57 AM, Sunkissed Mommy said:

 

We've had balcony seats both times.  I wanted to try floor seats this second time (two weeks ago) but by the time they got to us in line they were full on the floor. People lined up an hour before the show. If you're short and in balcony seats you may need to stand to see.  I leaned all the way forward across the table top to watch.  Otherwise the view was fine!

thanks so much for this good information.  This definitely persuaded us towards the floor seats for sure, excepts my husband and I are not willing to wait an hour in line for anything.   We will go and get what we get, but your comment was so helpful!!!  😀

This has been amazing.  Thank you so much for this review and the information.  Our trip isn't until October, but you are making me so excited.  Just curious, with the Cirque show, do you think that with the premium seating, it's better to have an upfront stage seat, or a balcony seat?

That was a terrific post/review. I enjoyed every minute of it. thanks! I am sailing on this ship at the end of September, 2011....just one question.....Is the door to the balcony a slider????