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Any reports on what is open on Orient Beach?  I am looking for the best spot for a lounge chair/umbrella rental, and great drinks and food.

10 hours ago, broberts said:

 

You are making an assumption which may not be valid.

 

Everything I stated is 100% fact based on studies of actual people who have received the vaccine and backed up be the CDC - I made no assumptions at all.  I will state it again, people who are vaccinated have nothing to fear from those who are not.

27 minutes ago, broberts said:

 

You have zero idea of the risk factors affecting the poster. That too is madness.

If the OP is vaccinated then we 100% understand the risk factors.  There are multiple studies showing that vaccinated people have almost no risks associates with Covid 19.  It is highly unlikely they would get it, even if directly exposed.  If they did get it, they would almost certainly be assymptomatic, and if they did have symptoms, they would almost certainly be mild. They have a better chance of being struck by lightning than dying of Covid.

The early bird gets the worm...or in this case the chairs by the pool.

I checked in for June 12th and also applied for and received my Bahamas Health Visas ($40 each).  Visa took about 1 hour to be approved.

6 hours ago, crazyank said:

If I may ask, how many days out were you when you got your E-docs?  

17

1 minute ago, Fritz Mom said:

Has anyone with a June sailing on the Adventure received info about check-in procedures, embarkation time, etc?  It is getting close!!

Nope, we got our "e-docs" yesterday but still no check in.

They will say it is sailing right up to when it is cancelled.  I think there is still a small chance that this could go.  RC will have to do a test cruise first and that hasn't been announced yet, but may have already been applied for at the CDC.

Unless cost is the biggest factor, I would avoid the lower floor cabins.  

1 minute ago, CroozFanatic said:

Debbie Downer here.

 

NCL has pulled the Joy from their website.

 

For those that don't know, NCL was doing a similar experiment launching the Joy from Montego Bay, Jamaica for August, September, and October.

 

No official word from the company.

 

Maybe false alarm.

I think if they were going to cancel the AOS sailings out of Bahamas, they would have done it when they cancelled the Bermuda cruises.

1 minute ago, NightOne said:

 

After 17 cancelled cruises the thought of cancellation is less stressful than it once was. (but would still really suck)

 

Personally, I think this one is too far along to cancel. They could still cancel future Adventure cruises out of Nassau but not the first few. 

 

Then again you never know. I'll be livid if they do. LOL

 

We have everything planned btw. Flights, hotel, shore excursions, etc. Although I will change excursions in Cozumel if we can go on our own.

Same here - I'm not really worried about it being cancelled but I will be happy when they finally let us check in.  I also have ship excusions in Cozumel and Freeport that I will cancel once they officially  announce that we can do our own thing.  Any ideas on things to do in Freeport?  We may just go to a beach but I like to have options if we not in the mood.

Yes, they run sales every few weeks.  The sale price has been $58 per person for the past few sales.

It is always the cruise after you acheive the next level.  

There are no current plans for any ship to be amplified.  I imagine it will be several years before that starts up again.  

If you have the same waiter all week (which you can do, even in MTD) they will keep your kids eating. 

A cruise is also a low risk time for your kids to try some new things.  We talked it up with my son before his first cruise (at 11) and he tried quite a few things while still ordering from the kids menu.  There is also Windjammer and Sorrento's as options if they don't eat enough during your regular dinner.

One idea is to feed them early at one of the above and them check them into Adventure Ocean so that you can enjoy a nice relaxing meal in the MDR or one of the specialty dining restaurants.

4 minutes ago, kearney said:

I know... what is interesting are the comments late in the JH piece that notes that wearing masks in public... is not necessary, But has been required since in most cases, since you have no idea who is and who is not vaccinated....  So requiring vaccinated to wear a mask is not based on a medical reason... more of a psychological reason

I work in a retail store and I can tell you that it is still a concern to many retail workers who have not been vaccinated as well as many customers who are expecting stores to enforce a mask policy. Regardless of my or anyone's opinion on mask effectiveness, I can assure you that there are many people with deep rooted safety concerns that have issues being around mask less individuals. I have no problem wearing mine, even though I am now fully vaccinated. I see it as a matter of courtesy.

I do not wear a mask outside, and it is not the norm or required in my area.  I guess I would put one on if it was requested or necessary for me to be in an area.

I think we are approaching the end of mask wearing, it will happen as everyone has had the chance to get the vaccine.

20 hours ago, kearney said:

Interesting perspective on effectiveness of vaccines -- I hope CDC follows the science.

 

It appears that once vaccinated you have a very very small chance of getting it again... at least for some period of time... and importantly it is unlikely that you will spread it either... while more data needs to be collected. I feel comfortable going on a cruise and I hope that by August fully vaccinated can sit and talk without masking or distancing. But so far the data looks extremely good. Check out this link from Johns Hopkins School of Public Health Expert insights... so this isn't just some random group.

 

COVID 19.Johns Hopkins School of Public Health Expert Insights

 

Of the 75 million who have been vaccinated 5,800 got covid... and while this percentage (0.0077%) is likely to grow as people interact more with others.... this is damn good. For comparison, the chance of getting hit by lightening in your life time is around 0.0065%.. and apparently the risks of dying in a car crash are one in 107 or 0.93%...but we still drive. So even if the odds of getting covid after vaccination were triple the current figures.. it still is low at 0.23%

 

The Hopkins article also suggests extremely small chance of spreading it. The paper suggest that vaccine people can't spread the virus.

Basically the same info, but FROM the CDC itself.

COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC

22 hours ago, utopiahereicome said:

Booked for 7/24 and sailing solo.  I usually take along a grandkid or two, but that seemed too complicated at the moment, so I’m looking forward to a relaxing vacation!  I too have no plans to get off the ship at Cozumel or Grand Bahama - perfectly content to hang out on my balcony with a good book and an adult beverage!  

I'm on the 6/12 "guinea pig" cruise. I booked some RC excursions for Cozumel and Grand Bahama but would much rather just do our own thing.  We'll see whether that is an option.  

1 minute ago, BirdTravels said:

Because 100% of the vaccinated people on board can catch COVID and potentially spread COVID. The vaccine does not prevent you from catching COVID. It only reduces the chance of you having moderate or serious symptoms when you catch COVID, thus reducing the time when you potentially spread the disease. So, in your US domestic airports and on your domestic connecting flights (packed like sardines in a tin can) you can catch COVID if you are careless and bring it onboard with you. That COVID would not be detected until a few days into the cruise. 

Actually, that is not true.  Moderna and Pfizer are aver 90% effective and JJ is above 70% in preventing the virus AND are very close to 100% effective in preventing serious cases of Covid.

So you are correct that there is a small chance of the virus being spread amongst a group of people who have close to zero percent chance of getting a serious case.

24 minutes ago, Iamcruzin said:

I think people just want to sail on a ship that's  booked  at only 50%, especially if it's going to Coco Cay. 

I get it because it is pretty rare. My first cruise was in October 2001, just after 9/11 and it was around 50% because of cancellation - We were definitely spoiled by having no waiting throughout the ship.

I will say that if they intend to socially distance, then I would hope that they would limit capacity.  

If everyone is vaccinated, I don't really see why we would care.  

On 4/19/2021 at 6:37 AM, John&LaLa said:

 

Maybe Chinese passengers don't surf.

19 minutes ago, ace2542 said:

What if they don't?

Then it will be a while

9 hours ago, Ourusualbeach said:

CDC Statement on Cruise Meeting
The CDC issued the following statement to Cruise Week this morning:
"Experts from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and White House staff met with cruise industry leaders and executives to discuss the Framework for Conditional Sailing Order (CSO) on Monday, April 12, 2021.
Cruise industry leaders were able to provide input into the phases of the
CSO, expressed frustration with the requirements, discussed the incorporation of vaccination requirements into restarting passenger voyages, and expressed the need to establish a working group with industry and CDC to work forward to resume cruising as soon as possible.
Cruising will always pose some risk of COVID-19 transmission, and COVID-19 vaccines will play a critical role in the safe resumption of passenger operations.
Cruise travelers represent a global population, and as more people are fully vaccinated worldwide, the phased approach of the CSO also allows CDC to incorporate these advancements into planning for the safe resumption of cruise ship travel.
CDC is committed to working with the cruise industry and seaport partners to resume cruising following a phased approach required by the CSO. CDC and
 
DHS senior leadership will begin meetings with cruise industry leaders starting this week.
The objective of the meetings are to mutually review the top priority issues of the cruise industry to work out implementation details of the CSO, including the impact of vaccines and other scientific developments since the CSO was issued in October 2020.
This goal aligns with the desire for the resumption of passenger operations in the United States by mid-summer, expressed by many major cruise ship operators and travelers."

The good news here is that the White House is involved.  The CDC are a bunch of bureaucrats who will never do anything worthwhile in their lives.  If the Biden Administration wants cruises to happen, they will.  Hopefully they are seeing the political value of restarting the cruise industry.

10 minutes ago, Biker19 said:

Based on the precedent on Quantum, Ps may get 6 drinks per day at anytime.  Not sure what being  a stock holder has to do with getting a drink benefit. 

$100 on board credit per week.