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4 minutes ago, Newleno said:
cnn lol, c-span works best bro, (i already told you what fauci said - video support), cnn fact check - now that some funny chitter
Dr. Fauci statement:
Dr. Anthony Fauci said "no one is going to deny" that lives could have been saved if the US implemented containment measures earlier on in the novel coronavirus outbreak.
Yeah real funny.
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1 hour ago, Formula280SS said:
Blue glasses "hoping Florida residents die" to blame the Governor and President. That is almost a virus in itself.
That is a DISGUSTING accusation that someone who has issues would even think or say. I feel so very sorry for you and your mindset. Absolutely disgusting remark, HOW DARE YOU......
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4 hours ago, Newleno said:
biased "articles" are worthless, got to show the whole video and context to get true meaning, c-span works best, give it a try. I could be mistaken but to the best my knowledge, mankind has never stopped a corona virus - they either fizzle out on their own, or immunity is developed, but I could be wrong. Once again what is the current solution to the problem, I dont think there is an answer, if there was it would be implemented.
The article wasn't opinion, they stated FACTS with DATES that the president told the lies. That are easily looked up, but not all in one place like the article. But here's another site, what was said and the date it was said . But I'm sure it's BIASED in your opinion also.😄 The solution to the problem, listen to the experts not the people who deny science. Then we can get back to cruising faster.
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57 minutes ago, boatseller said:
Except we've had excellent leadership from the Whitehouse*. The US is very well positioned in healthcare capacity, testing and economic recovery.
Anyone who thinks we'd be magically virus free is living in a fantasy world. I know, it's easier to just close your eyes and hope the situation will change, but adults deal with problems. We're well on our way to putting this behind us getting back to cruising ASAP.
*I'd ask for an example of a lie, but don't want to embarrass you for not being able to find one. 🙂
Actually I only see you embarrassing one person, YOURSELF.
LIES the president has told about covid-19. AKA there's a lot of them.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/05/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/
As you like to tell people on here, you can apologize to me now🙂
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On 6/17/2020 at 10:38 AM, Sweetnspicy said:
🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a very realist personality myself, the optimism in your posts always lifts my spirits. Have you considered buying your own boat? My husband is obsessed with the idea of owning a boat.
This 100% Every time I see seaman's post I get a huge smile. Keep dreaming seaman it's good for your soul.
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5 minutes ago, Newleno said:
and yet the question does not get answered, should be very simple to answer if true
We answered you, you just don't want to hear it. What was your quote. Learn baby learn, maybe take your own advice.
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Just now, Newleno said:
I wont click a vox article but if you would care to answer my question directly that would be great, I am really interested in what did the whitehouse do differently than what experts recommended. More importantly what is the solution currently to the plague
I answered your question but you don't want to read it. Fine don't learn baby don't learn. I'll give you one paragraph that says it all.
The report paints a portrait of Trump as being swayed by things like petty politics, one-upmanship, advice from his uninformed business associates, and his annoyance at inconsequential conspiracy theories, rather than the strenuous and sustained advice of experts — most of which he ignored for weeks. The delay resulted in a lack of effective quarantining measures, a dearth of testing centers and equipment, a failure to reallocate existing resources, and widespread confusion about how seriously the public should be taking the disease.
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4 minutes ago, Newleno said:
I will ask again, what was done differently by the white house then what was recommended? , what information from the experts was ignored?, what was/is the solution to this plague?
HERE read this.
https://www.vox.com/2020/4/12/21218305/trump-ignored-coronavirus-warnings
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3 hours ago, boatseller said:
You cannot make long term policy on the 50/50 chance there may be a possibly effective vaccine at some point in the undetermined future...that people may or many not get at some also undetermined time.
The only thing we need to learn from is the incompetent leadership of the northeast and some midwest States.
We can focus on protecting the 1,000,000 vulnerable people while the other 328,000,000 people get back to life, including cruising.
If we had any type of leadership from the Whitehouse instead of daily lies, and just listen to experts we would be in a whole lot of better position than we are now. 15 case that'll be zero soon has turned into over 2 million cases and 120,000 dead in just 3 months. That's the incompetence we have now.
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21 minutes ago, AdoraBelle said:
WDW is much closer to, you know, actual hospitals. WDW also isn’t moving around from country to country with thousands of parkgoers. It’s apples and oranges.Note: I also think WDW opening in less than three weeks while Orange County is running out of ICU capacity is bananas.
Now Florida only has about a quarter of ICU beds open right now, and cases are just staring to spike upwards. In Pinellas county (where I live) since June 1st the cases have more than doubled from about 1200 cases to almost 3000 cases with deaths going from 82 to 112. I'm with you I think if this trend keeps going upward WDW would be crazy to reopen.
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4 hours ago, boatseller said:
Ah, again with the assumptions. So, for the benefit of future readers, our discussion ended with this friend not being able to backup any of their warning or claims with a reputable or verifiable source then, as you can see, well....
When it comes time to decide on cruising this year, next year or anytime, there is lots of information out there about safety, and the risks involved. I hope everyone uses this information to make their own decisions based on their own circumstances. If you have reason to take precautions, cruising's might not be for you right now. But if you're not scared of the virus, don't let anyone shame you into being scared.
See you all on the waves, Happy Cruising!
You posted links the other day trying to prove that covid-19 and the flu had the same risks and such. I read those links and they proved you wrong. I responded as such.I love people who try to tell me because I wear a mask or self isolate that I'm SCARED, NNOOOO I'm not scared for ME. I think of other people who If I don't wear a mask or take precautions can get sick from ME. Now if you don't care about getting other people sick, that's who YOU are, and you have to live with yourself. I was taught empathy for my fellow human beings, I feel sorry that you weren't.
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4 hours ago, pcakes122 said:
No matter where I contracted it I HAD it onboard the Bliss so I definitely infected others who were unsuspecting. Hopefully they are all well - I think about them often.
This is exactly why I wear a mask when I have to go anywhere. You have empathy which from reading some of the other treads on these boards is in short supply. Hats off to you.
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1 hour ago, Roger88 said:
Social distancing on a cruise ship is an impossible thing to do. Its not like they are going to force their passengers to stay in cabins or prohibit them from visiting buffet or restaurants on board. Maximum they can do is to distribute branded masks and give out antiseptics. In any case I wont book a cruise until this nonsense is over
I agree it's impossible, at least to me. What percentage of cruisers fly to the port? When you arrive at the port it's really busy. Then after you check in you have to wait in the terminal where it's also usually packed. All of this before you even get on a cruise. The space they use for 2500 people + does not allow for social distancing. I'm with you I think I'll wait until this gets under control some how. Everyone take care.
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13 minutes ago, buckeyefrank said:
he can't because it doesn't exist. He has it backwards.
Trish Reagen got fired for calling it a impeachment scam. Link
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56 minutes ago, Formula280SS said:
Got a link? 🙄
For each?
Thank you.
Gee here's a link from Forbes.
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One network called covid-19 a HOAX the other has not. I think I'll stay with the station that's not going to do me harm. Thank you
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1 hour ago, HappyInVan said:
So, Carnival intends to sail in August from Texas and Florida?
Let's do the numbers. How dangerous is the disease?
From New York state's website...
NY has done a million tests for a population of 20 million. 32% of the tests were positive. How many people have really been infected, as the number of tests have been far fewer per capita (and per positive) than in other countries?
Governor Cuomo cites an antibody test that claims 13.9% of state residents have been infected in the past.
Let's assume that this is correct and 3 million have been infected. Compared to the official fatality count of 20k, the death rate is 0.67% of the infected.
By comparison, it has been estimated that the common flu kill 0.1% (one out of a thousand) of the infected adults. For the 2018/19 season, CDC estimated 35 million symptomatic illnesses and 34k deaths.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
Therefore, covid19 has the potential to infect more of the population and kill 6.7x more of the infected. Transpose those numbers to your cruise ship.
Should the cruise ship be full of young people, then the infection rate would be high (party time) and the death rate low. The reverse for the typical cruise demographics.
The picture below has been snipped from a Korean CDC pdf. The fatality rate for those 80+ in age is 24%. For those in the 70s, death rate of 10% of the infected.
Perhaps, that's why Carnival is launching the Carnival brand first, before the brands with older demographics. So Happy Cruisers, which demographic group are you?
The results Cuomo was talking about was the Stanford study which has now been debunked by Columbia. Here's the link scroll down to the summary. Great post and scary at the same time. Thanks.
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12 hours ago, Himself said:
Thumbs Down!. Ronald Raegan once said the worse words we can hear are: "Hi, I'm from the Government I am hear to help."
And wasn't Reagan president of said government.
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10 minutes ago, cruisecriket said:
Friend, just because you yell doesn't mean you are right and anybody is wrong. Who said anything about not locking down?
Which of my facts are wrong? Which facts did you add? My post is factual. The only one here acting in a hysteric and dramatic fashion is you, asking mods to intervene because what you read does not support your virtual reality.
If you want to bunker the rest of your life, I don't think anybody is stopping you.
Go back and read my post again. Maybe this time you will comprehend.
Here's a good link with facts about the flu shot.
https://www.everydayhealth.com/cold-and-flu/myth-or-fact-can-you-get-the-flu-from-a-flu-shot.aspx
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39 minutes ago, cruisecriket said:
Then, there will never be cruising again. Waiting too long for a vaccine, which may be forever, will erase the cruising industry, which is unacceptable.
You know that the flu vaccine you receive each year is for the last flu strain. It does not protect you for the new mutated strain that may arise. I have never taken a flu vaccine and gotten many flus, yet here I am. The CDC states that in the currently ending flu season 201-2020 between 22,000 and 62,000 people have died from the flu in the United States.
You also know that there are no vaccines for SARS (another coronavirus SARS-Cov), a very close relative of covid-19 and far more deadly. Yet, we have learned to "live" with it and survived after 17 years.
Life itself is a risk. At one point or another things have to open up with certain regulations in place perhaps, but the longer this lock down takes it may kill more people in the end than the covid-19 virus. I think that after 8 weeks of lock down by the end of April or beginning of May most infected with the covid-19 virus would have developed the symptoms and be treated.
If someone does not want to cruise that's their prerogative. But please, don't make it more difficult for us who do want to continue living. I will cruise as soon as they open. It's feeling more like July, 2020. Covid-19 will not be able to stand that heat.
The Flu shot is not quite what you think. Hope this helps.The flu vaccine contains tiny amounts of the viruses it protects against. The presence of these viruses in the vaccine triggers the body’s natural defense mechanism to produce antibodies to fight them. This means that the body quickly recognizes them when exposed to the disease in “real life.”
Different influenza viruses contained in a flu shot are:
- influenza A virus H1N1 called the Michigan strain
- Influenza A virus H3N2 called the Hong Kong strain
- one or two influenza B viruses called the Brisbane and Phuket strains
Traditional flu shots are trivalent (three-component) vaccines because they protect against three viruses: two influenza A viruses (H1N1 and H3N2), and one influenza B virus.
A person can also get a quadrivalent (four-component) vaccine, which protects against an additional B virus.
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1 hour ago, Love my butler said:
Haha, you do realize all those services you mentioned I PAID FOR right. You know, taxes. That means I take care of myself. If I get airlifted anywhere, I get to pay for that service. Nothing in life is free. Part of being an adult and paying my taxes is freedom. I get to decide where I go and what I do. The precious government you speak of, doesn't get to decide that for me. Just like YOU don't get to tell me where I go or what I do, no matter how much you wish you could.
As our great former President Reagan said, "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government, and I'm here to help." No thanks
Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem.
KAG!
WOW you still don't get it,you really don't. That's your reply I PAID FOR IT. You paid for all the bridges you used in your life. You paid for all the police, fire trucks and all the military equipment our country uses, well just wow. Being able to pay your taxes has absolutely nothing to do with being an adult at all. I don't care where you go or what you do with your life, why would you even think that. Narcissist much. Reagan was a governor and a president so he was the leader of his state then the country, so he's saying in his quote that he himself can't be trusted and he's part of your so called Government is not the solution but you reply to him as our great former president. So he was great and part of the so called not to be trusted government. See how can anyone believe what you say when you say the government can't be trusted but you call reagen great, unless you mean he was a great actor, but that's not the context your statement said. So how can you say Reagan was great when he was apart of the government that you hate. Your argument makes absolutely no sense, but by the kag at the bottom I now understand why. LOL. Have a great cruise. P.S. Even though you PAID for your cruise, the ships not yours. Just sayin.
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On 3/20/2020 at 1:32 AM, Love my butler said:
No concern at all. As an adult, I am intelligent enough to make my own life decisions. Believe it or not, I don't rely on the government to 'take care of me'. Don't buckle to the media attempting to spread panic and fear.
Really the government doesn't take care of you. So do you use the roads or bridges? You fixing the potholes? Building new bridges or fixing the old ones? If your house burns you won't need the fire department to help you? You must have big water hoses in your backyard. If you've been robbed or your car stolen you won't go to the police to get it back. Don't tell me you're part bloodhound.. Your on a cruise and need to be airlifted to a hospital you are gonna do it on your own. Right. So your saying you do all of this on your OWN. Talk about fake news. Believe it or not we meaning me, you and everyone in this country IS the government. Maybe when you learn that then you're an adult. Just saying IMHO.
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We were at HC last Wednesday and it was still tendering. We stayed onboard and so did a lot of other people.
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Just off the Dawn out of Tampa, ship was full.
You can blame the CDC, not NCL for the latest suspensions.
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First I'm not your Bro or your friend, and yes facts matter. I posted FACTS, transcripts are FACTS not just videos, ever hear of video editing? Yes we all need to work together, but working together means admitting that a lot of( I'll say mistakes) were made by the whitehouse to get us were we are now .We have to fix those (mistakes). Wear masks, wash your hands and help your neighbors and things WILL get better.