Keeper420 Posted April 28, 2010 #1 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Okay, so I booked a balcony for Sept. 11, 2010 for my wife and my 2yo son. The room number is 10012. Having not been on the ship and not having payed attention to pictures beforehand I assumed that the balcony would have a "glass" railing (i.e. my 2yo son could walk up to the railing and see the ocean. However looking more closely at the pictures and build pictures it would seem that my room and the rooms around it are going to have just a hole as balcony and no glass. This would mean that I would at minimum have to hold my son up to see the water. Does anyone have any info regarding these forward balconies? My TA called NCL, and they said that this wasn't the case but in one of the photos I have seen I can see a worker leaning on the metal underneath the opening for the hole for the balcony. How can NCL charge the same price for these balconies as more open balconies that are more aft on the ship? Thanks in advance for anyone's help. I may need to call my travel agent back to change my room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsteinberg Posted April 28, 2010 #2 Share Posted April 28, 2010 not sure on your question, but you can usually stay in the same category and change to another available cabin... Also I am on your sailing, come say hello in the roll call http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=999857&page=12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parttime Cruiser Posted April 28, 2010 #3 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) mistaken post Edited April 28, 2010 by Parttime Cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2cruise1 Posted April 28, 2010 #4 Share Posted April 28, 2010 mistaken post I was going to say it is the 4th balcony back forward on the ship. ;) If you look at the detail on the model the first 4 or 5 balconies are wrapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper420 Posted April 28, 2010 Author #5 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I was going to say it is the 4th balcony back forward on the ship. ;) If you look at the detail on the model the first 4 or 5 balconies are wrapped. So no glass railing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddakrt Posted April 28, 2010 #6 Share Posted April 28, 2010 So no glass railing? No glass railing. Your observations were correct. Just call your TA and switch rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin'cockney Posted April 28, 2010 #7 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Disney have this arrangement and call them Navigator Balconies and they are in a lower catagory to the regular balconies. Many people prefer them as they offer more privacy and are quieter. In the winter months they are warmer. Downside is the lack of visibility from a sitting position or for small children. If you have small children I would swap/upgrade. Edited April 28, 2010 by Cruisin'cockney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNPJN Posted April 28, 2010 #8 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) duplicate post Edited April 28, 2010 by RNPJN dupl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNPJN Posted April 28, 2010 #9 Share Posted April 28, 2010 No glass railing. Your observations were correct. Just call your TA and switch rooms. Yes they also have glass railing but the balcony are cut out of the bulkhead so the opening is smaller but the glass railing is the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebJef Posted April 28, 2010 #10 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I had exactly the same query with the cabin I had booked. I chose it because on the plans, the balcony looked massive. Like you, as more photos came available I could see the problem. I had my TA call NCL who said they could not confirm, but suggested that I change balconies and so I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octagonmike Posted April 28, 2010 #11 Share Posted April 28, 2010 not sure on your question, but you can usually stay in the same category and change to another available cabin... Also I am on your sailing, come say hello in the roll call http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=999857&page=12 I am also on this sailing. It will be the 2nd week of our B2B :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octagonmike Posted April 28, 2010 #12 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Yes they also have glass railing but the balcony are cut out of the bulkhead so the opening is smaller but the glass railing is the same Errrrr am I missing somethin ? It appears to me there is no glass on those balconies. The opening is simply a hole cut in the hull of the ship and therefore no need for a "glass railing" as it is referred to here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2cruise1 Posted April 28, 2010 #13 Share Posted April 28, 2010 (edited) Errrrr am I missing somethin ? It appears to me there is no glass on those balconies. The opening is simply a hole cut in the hull of the ship and therefore no need for a "glass railing" as it is referred to here. The funny thing the glass balcony is still there on other NCL ships. You do see mostly the steel however. Edited April 28, 2010 by time2cruise1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggers06 Posted April 28, 2010 #14 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Okay, so I booked a balcony for Sept. 11, 2010 for my wife and my 2yo son. The room number is 10012. Having not been on the ship and not having payed attention to pictures beforehand I assumed that the balcony would have a "glass" railing (i.e. my 2yo son could walk up to the railing and see the ocean. However looking more closely at the pictures and build pictures it would seem that my room and the rooms around it are going to have just a hole as balcony and no glass. This would mean that I would at minimum have to hold my son up to see the water. Does anyone have any info regarding these forward balconies? My TA called NCL, and they said that this wasn't the case but in one of the photos I have seen I can see a worker leaning on the metal underneath the opening for the hole for the balcony. How can NCL charge the same price for these balconies as more open balconies that are more aft on the ship? Thanks in advance for anyone's help. I may need to call my travel agent back to change my room. I am on the same cruise as you and we are in 11000 and have friends in 11004. As far as I can tell yes the balconies are hulled-in, in the forward cabins, but until someone is actually on the ship who knows...... My guess is that you will have to hold you little one up to see the water. I don't know if I would change our room if we were bring our 2 yo DD. In my mind I think I like metal better than glass. Metal doesn't break easy, IMO. HTH Please join our roll call. Melissa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggers06 Posted April 28, 2010 #15 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I am also on this sailing. It will be the 2nd week of our B2B :D Please join our roll call, I am in charge of setting up the meet and greet. It should be fun. Melissa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buggers06 Posted April 28, 2010 #16 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I am on the same cruise as you and we are in 11000 and have friends in 11004. As far as I can tell yes the balconies are hulled-in, in the forward cabins, but until someone is actually on the ship who knows...... My guess is that you will have to hold you little one up to see the water. I don't know if I would change our room if we were bring our 2 yo DD. In my mind I think I like metal better than glass. Metal doesn't break easy, IMO. HTH Please join our roll call. Melissa Forgot to add we have a mom with twins who are 3 or 4 yo's coming with her. on the roll call. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddakrt Posted April 28, 2010 #17 Share Posted April 28, 2010 The funny thing the glass balcony is still there on other NCL ships. You do see mostly the steel however. The Epic looks a bit different that the above arrangement. From the pictures of the Epic you can see the holes only open to the level of the railings of the "open" balconies. The Jewel class ships in hull balconies' holes are quite large and is more squarish in shape whereas the Epics are more a rectangle. I wouldn't expect a glass railing in the Epic's in hull balconies because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mttwinmom Posted April 29, 2010 #18 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Forgot to add we have a mom with twins who are 3 or 4 yo's coming with her. on the roll call. M I'm so glad to see there is at least one other person bringing a kid. I'm on the same cruise with my 4yr old twins :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNPJN Posted April 29, 2010 #19 Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) I found a pic. there is no glass rail on epic bulkhead http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=172183&size=full Edited April 29, 2010 by RNPJN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
octagonmike Posted April 29, 2010 #20 Share Posted April 29, 2010 The Epic looks a bit different that the above arrangement. From the pictures of the Epic you can see the holes only open to the level of the railings of the "open" balconies. The Jewel class ships in hull balconies' holes are quite large and is more squarish in shape whereas the Epics are more a rectangle. I wouldn't expect a glass railing in the Epic's in hull balconies because of this. I totally agree. The opening comes to in between waist and chest height so there will be no glass "railing" or rather screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Rose Posted April 29, 2010 #21 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I had exactly the same problem. We were booked in 12000 and 12004 - on the plans looked fantastic - big balcony etc. When I saw the pictures of the model I realised that not only was it a 'cave-like' balcony but we were directly under the bridge so it would be dark with no sun and no view from a sitting position. I called my TA and had them change immediately to deck 11 mid way but slightly to the front with glass panels. No change in price and a new confirmation sent. They really should point this out for those forward balcony cabins. It shows nothing on the deck plans and you would presume they are they same but they just aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper420 Posted April 29, 2010 Author #22 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I had exactly the same problem. We were booked in 12000 and 12004 - on the plans looked fantastic - big balcony etc. When I saw the pictures of the model I realised that not only was it a 'cave-like' balcony but we were directly under the bridge so it would be dark with no sun and no view from a sitting position. I called my TA and had them change immediately to deck 11 mid way but slightly to the front with glass panels. No change in price and a new confirmation sent. They really should point this out for those forward balcony cabins. It shows nothing on the deck plans and you would presume they are they same but they just aren't. Yes they should give us information about this ahead of time since we have booked this ship sight-unseen. Here's a question: Should people in this room go ahead and switch. Or should we wait until we get onto the ship and they say something like, "I wanted a balcony room with a glass "screen/railing" so my kid can look at the water?" and see if they will upgrade or give ship credit for the misleading advertising of this room. My TA has called and NCL even assured us this was a normal balcony. Thanks in advance for your advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2cruise1 Posted April 29, 2010 #23 Share Posted April 29, 2010 (edited) Yes they should give us information about this ahead of time since we have booked this ship sight-unseen. Here's a question: Should people in this room go ahead and switch. Or should we wait until we get onto the ship and they say something like, "I wanted a balcony room with a glass "screen/railing" so my kid can look at the water?" and see if they will upgrade or give ship credit for the misleading advertising of this room. My TA has called and NCL even assured us this was a normal balcony. Thanks in advance for your advice. If you wait until you get onboard expect to end up in the cabin booked and don't expect compensation. You know what you have now. If it is not to your liking move while there are plenty of other cabins. The advantage of those cabins is they do have larger balconies. Do I demand an upgrade because my midship balcony with a glass rail is smaller. If you look at the new deck plans for cruises in 2011 your cabin is a B6 large balcony and cost a little more then a regular balcony Nobody has sailed on this ship. Very few NCL personnel have even been on the ship. None of the NCL reps your TA spoke with has any first hand knowledge of the differences in balcony cabins. Edited April 29, 2010 by time2cruise1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Rose Posted April 29, 2010 #24 Share Posted April 29, 2010 I would change now if I were you. I would expect nothing than be told 'this is a balcony cabin'. That way you won't be disappointed and as already been said, you will have more of a choice now. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddakrt Posted April 29, 2010 #25 Share Posted April 29, 2010 Yes they should give us information about this ahead of time since we have booked this ship sight-unseen. Here's a question: Should people in this room go ahead and switch. Or should we wait until we get onto the ship and they say something like, "I wanted a balcony room with a glass "screen/railing" so my kid can look at the water?" and see if they will upgrade or give ship credit for the misleading advertising of this room. My TA has called and NCL even assured us this was a normal balcony. Thanks in advance for your advice. I would do it now and wouldn't expect any sort of comp. if you decide to leave it until you're aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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