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Why? Does your toilet at home look and smell bad if you don't have a maid taking care of it for you? Not all of us have personal maids and, believe it or not, our toilets aren't covered in waste or smelling up our bathrooms!

 

You're right those toilets flush powerful enough to clean anything away and even if it didn't there's a brush in the bathroom!

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You're right those toilets flush powerful enough to clean anything away and even if it didn't there's a brush in the bathroom!

 

And clean it with what:confused: Her toothpaste:confused:

 

Sad part is when they leave the stewards will have to spend catch up time on their cabin and still not get tipped......

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Not sure where the three young children came from. Mine are 14, 14, and 15. And part of packing 5 of us into one cabin is staying clean and organized so we have room to breath. Our room won't need the assistance of a steward, other than to provide us with clean towels. However, I intend to tip AT LEAST as much as Carnival feels is appropriate for a similar room with 2 people. If you feel I should pay somebody the equivalent of more than $75,000 per year to make a bed and wipe a counter, simply because I have five guests in the same size room that other people put two in, that's is your opinion. Mine differs. Discussion over (at least for me).

 

Where are you getting $75k a year? Carnival's cabins are designated by the number of people who will be sleeping in them, they won't allow you to stay in a room that would be designated for 2 people-- additional linens will be required, more trash will be generated, etc. The schedule is based on the number of people, not the rooms. You have 3 teenagers and don't feel you need to pay tips for them? **shaking head in shock**

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And clean it with what:confused: Her toothpaste:confused:

 

Sad part is when they leave the stewards will have to spend catch up time on their cabin and still not get tipped......

 

Just a brush will get anything small left behind that the forceful flush didn't get rid of.

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Our first cruise was on the Destiny and our boys stayed in a cabin across from us. We loved our cabin stewardess. They (we each had a different person) were there every morning with a smile on their face, if we needed anything all we had to do was ask. Eleana and Laura showed me how to make my own towel animals! Yes, even after 10 yrs I remember each of them by name.

Our younger son was 8 at the time and both girls would take turns pushing him up and down the halls on a cart, playing with him, etc. He was spoiled rotten by the end of the trip. They each signed our copy of the cabin book in English and Romanian so we would have a special souvenier.

The first night of our cruise my DH won big in the casino and on the last night we tipped each of the young ladies $100 over what Carnival said. They were both so very happy, cried, and hugged us like we were long most relatives. Not that we have tons of money, just that they made our first cruise very special for us and a trip to remember for both our boys. Never thought twice about it.

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On our last cruise, we tipped our team waitress an additional $15 at the end of our last dinner. She earned every bit of it. While we were waiting on the back deck on Lido during debarkation, she was working Lido and came around frequently filling our sodas and chatting with us. I know she appreciated the little extra we gave as much as we appreciated the service we had received all week..

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Not sure where the three young children came from. Mine are 14, 14, and 15. And part of packing 5 of us into one cabin is staying clean and organized so we have room to breath. Our room won't need the assistance of a steward, other than to provide us with clean towels. However, I intend to tip AT LEAST as much as Carnival feels is appropriate for a similar room with 2 people. If you feel I should pay somebody the equivalent of more than $75,000 per year to make a bed and wipe a counter, simply because I have five guests in the same size room that other people put two in, that's is your opinion. Mine differs. Discussion over (at least for me).

 

that's half my pay to sit behind a desk.

 

how much do you want to get paid to clean down a room twice a day? 17.50 would not do it for me.

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I cannot imagine not wanting your beds made every day and your room and bathroom cleaned twice a day. I am sure the room steward will guess why! I believe we all reap what we sow and I find it amazing that people justify cheating people out of their income.

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I'll tell you what. Why don't all of you people who seem to think I'm so unreasonable go find yourselves a real live room steward. Ask the steward if he/she would prefer to clean a large Grand Suite (including balcony) with 2 guests for $7.00 or if he/she would prefer to clean a small inside cabin with 5 tidy guests for $17.50.

 

The math speaks for itself.

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Yes, I'm obviously putting five into one room to save costs. Tipping was the last thing on my mind when I booked the room; however, once I'm booked to travel with five in a room, I plan to tip in an amount that I feel appropriate for a single interior room...that amount is NOT $17.50 per day. The people harassing me are probably the same ones who stay in the Grand Suites and think it's fair for them to pay the same $3.50 per guest, per day as the guests in the small, interior rooms with no balconies.

 

The tip amounts are RECOMMENDED, not required. The only reason they automatically add them on is because they know that many people will otherwise under-tip and they also know that most people will be too embarrassed to manually adjust the tips downward.

 

Still though the total for tips is roughly 15% (or less, if you've booked a huge room), which is a customary tip. Is your issue the suggested gratuity amount OVERALL or just what the room steward gets out of that?

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Shouldn't we blame Carnival for all this?

 

They are the ones who register ships in countries with inhumane labor laws, then dock their gluttonous ships in the US while skating free on all kinds of taxes. Then they make us believe that we are on some culturally diverse vacation while making us feel guilty that Phhoung from Cambodia works 16 hours a day living off our tips. Then we go home after the cruise feeling good about ourselves that we personally contributed 11cents to Phhoung's pay.

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People choose to work for what they are paid. They have a CHOICE when they sign their contract. It is MY CHOICE if & how much I CHOOSE to tip. The same is it is YOUR choice how much you choose to spend. None of yours or anyone else's business how much I tip or if I choose to remove them completly. If you feel so High & Mighty about what you tip, let me ask you this then. Why dont you show us your Federal Tax Returns as well. Since you think you should tell us how to spend our money, lets see some about yours.

 

Tipping is a Indviduals CHOICE. Doesnt matter what anyone else thinks or does. You tip or dont tip however you feel like.

 

correct... but when you put it out there on an open forum, you're putting yourself up to scrutiny. So either let it be a private matter, or not.

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I'll tell you what. Why don't all of you people who seem to think I'm so unreasonable go find yourselves a real live room steward. Ask the steward if he/she would prefer to clean a large Grand Suite (including balcony) with 2 guests for $7.00 or if he/she would prefer to clean a small inside cabin with 5 tidy guests for $17.50.

 

The math speaks for itself.

 

Even if I accepted ALL of the included services (which I don't plan to, since I don't care if our beds are made or the room is vacuumed...all I need are clean towels each day), the steward would spend AT MOST 15 minutes in my room twice each day. That's 30 minutes per day MAXIMUM, and an experienced steward could do it in a lot less. So $17.50 times 30 minutes is an hourly rate of $35 on top of whatever base pay they are receiving (which I know isn't much, but I don't believe to be $0.15 per hour). I'm sorry, but while I appreciate the work that they do, I don't believe it warrants an annual salary in excess of $75,000 per year! Most college graduates, professionals, and skilled laborers don't make that kind of money.

 

Where are you pulling this figure out of:confused:

I have a guess....:rolleyes:

That is my biggest pet peeve when it comes to people who don't tip. I call them 'Number Crunchers'

They are the ones who find it totally appalling that a service employee may wind up making good money...so they find all these numbers to add, subtract, multuiply and divide to come up with a figure (a totally random and imagined one they pull out of their butts) and if the number is more than what they make, or what they deem too 'good' for a measly service person, they get all insulted and remove or cut the tips.

What the crew makes is NO ONE'S business.

 

 

Squeezing 5 people into a cabin and thinking the crew member isn't going to have to work harder than if there were just two in there is just totally wrong.

Just manuevering around the 'stuff' that 5 people will bring to the room in terms of luggage, clothing, toiletries etc., in itself creates a situation in a cabin that makes the steward's job that much more challenging in just cleaning around everything. Obviously you don't clean much or else you'd realize that cleaning up after more people esepcially in such a small space is far worse than if only 2 were in that cabin.

 

I stand by my statement...it's just pathetic....

 

Shouldn't we blame Carnival for all this?

no

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I'll tell you what. Why don't all of you people who seem to think I'm so unreasonable go find yourselves a real live room steward. Ask the steward if he/she would prefer to clean a large Grand Suite (including balcony) with 2 guests for $7.00 or if he/she would prefer to clean a small inside cabin with 5 tidy guests for $17.50.

 

The math speaks for itself.

 

 

Again, your math is flawed. You have already indicated that you will only be tipping based on the two people so your example above isn't correct. And your cabin will not be as small as one for two pax who have booked an interior, which is why when you choose 5 people, it only gives you certain ones to choose from.

 

Your logic is the same as a group of five at a table in a restaurant and comparing it to a two-top... hey they both are only one table right?

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I have a guess....:rolleyes:

That is my biggest pet peeve when it comes to people who don't tip. I call them 'Number Crunchers'

They are the ones who find it totally appalling that a service employee may wind up making good money...so they find all these numbers to add, subtract, multuiply and divide to come up with a figure (a totally random and imagined one they pull out of their butts) and if the number is more than what they make, or what they deem too 'good' for a measly service person, they get all insulted and remove or cut the tips.

What the crew makes is NO ONE'S business.

 

 

Squeezing 5 people into a cabin and thinking the crew member isn't going to have to work harder than if there were just two in there is just totally wrong.

Just manuevering around the 'stuff' that 5 people will bring to the room in terms of luggage, clothing, toiletries etc., in itself creates a situation in a cabin that makes the steward's job that much more challenging in just cleaning around everything.

 

I stand by my statement...it's just pathetic....

 

Agreed. Maybe we should all just tip on one meal when we go out, because the waiter/waitress carries them all out at the same time. Same number of trips as the person at the next table dining solo.

 

I feel that the way carnival is doing it is the fairest way to all passengers and the crew. Everyone pays the same for the same amount of service.

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and on a related note, How do I go about PRE-paying my tips? I'd like to have it done and gone, if possible, so my S&S is clean and clear with CASHOLA. It's been a long time since I've cruised...so long that there was no such thing as online booking or auto tips. :o

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Still though the total for tips is roughly 15% (or less, if you've booked a huge room), which is a customary tip. Is your issue the suggested gratuity amount OVERALL or just what the room steward gets out of that?

 

Just the room steward portion, and only because we are 5 in a tiny inside room which takes no more time to clean for a tidy family of five than it would take to clean up after a messy couple. And I'm sure it takes LESS time to clean than any larger room with balcony, regardless of the number of occupants.

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Just the room steward portion, and only because we are 5 in a tiny inside room which takes no more time to clean for a tidy family of five than it would take to clean up after a messy couple. And I'm sure it takes LESS time to clean than any larger room with balcony, regardless of the number of occupants.

 

If you only want to tip for two people than leave three at home. We have sailed on rccl with four people in a suite and the suggested tip was 5.50 a person and although I thought $22.00 a day was alot I still paid it.

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Just the room steward portion, and only because we are 5 in a tiny inside room which takes no more time to clean for a tidy family of five than it would take to clean up after a messy couple. And I'm sure it takes LESS time to clean than any larger room with balcony, regardless of the number of occupants.

 

Ok, let me ask you this. Your argument goes from not using the steward's services at all and getting your own towels, to he/she doesn't work that hard anyway, to tipping $7 per day for your cabin. Would you still tip the $7 per day if you were getting your own towels???

 

I may be wrong, but it looks like your looking for a way to lower your tips and to justify doing so.

 

Are you really nit picking over $52??? (if you tip on 2 ppl in the room it's $49.. it's only $52 more to tip the "requested" amount). In the grand scheme of the cost of your cruise, is $52 worth the agony you're putting yourself through here? LOL

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and on a related note, How do I go about PRE-paying my tips? I'd like to have it done and gone, if possible, so my S&S is clean and clear with CASHOLA. It's been a long time since I've cruised...so long that there was no such thing as online booking or auto tips. :o

 

Contact your PVP and let them know you want to prepay-- it's painless. :)

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Ok, let me ask you this. Your argument goes from not using the steward's services at all and getting your own towels, to he/she doesn't work that hard anyway, to tipping $7 per day for your cabin. Would you still tip the $7 per day if you were getting your own towels???

 

I may be wrong, but it looks like your looking for a way to lower your tips and to justify doing so.

 

Are you really nit picking over $52??? (if you tip on 2 ppl in the room it's $49.. it's only $52 more to tip the "requested" amount). In the grand scheme of the cost of your cruise, is $52 worth the agony you're putting yourself through here? LOL

 

 

The OP said on another post that they will take their own soda into the dining room, so yeah... they've moved beyond frugal and cheap and taken residence in the tasteless and classless category.

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