clive and anne Posted September 16, 2013 #4951 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Can somebody ask Nick Sloane in the ROC to move back a bit please, we cant see the bow properly. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMars Posted September 16, 2013 #4952 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Can somebody ask Nick Sloane in the ROC to move back a bit please, we cant see the bow properly. lol Really, how dare he block our view. LOL Actually, you will see progress sooner by watching for the angle between the red booms in the water and the top of the starboard side of the ship to change. Pick a couple of spots to take a sight on and watch. The bow is more of fulcrum point. Hope I'm explaining that in some sort of understandable way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pspercy Posted September 16, 2013 #4953 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I'm watching this full screen: http://www.ilpost.it/2013/09/16/live-raddrizzamento-costa-concordia-streaming-diretta-video/ Might be Reuters' feed , not sure. Some sound tho' nothing useful (yet?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTH Posted September 16, 2013 #4954 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) Really, how dare he block our view. LOL Actually, you will see progress sooner by watching for the angle between the red booms in the water and the top of the starboard side of the ship to change. Pick a couple of spots to take a sight on and watch. The bow is more of fulcrum point. Hope I'm explaining that in some sort of understandable way. Morning All, Well, Reuters have spoilt us all, live video, audio, cameras panning round, we're not used to this!! Thanks to those who posted the links, & of course to Reuters! Regarding the sound/audio, I'm hearing the sea waves, sea gulls, a distant helicopter, & presumably camera crews talking in the back ground. Do we have any idea where the microphone is, & will it pickup the strand jacks, cables/wires, pumps operating, & CC's hull groaning under the strain? Anyone heard any other noises so far? I'm going to use the brown/black oily tidemark/waterline on the white paint just under the bridge window as a measure of movement, it comes into camera shot looking @ the front/bow of CC every so often. There's even a 'pause' button facility @ the bottom of the screen to look @ all the work done by Micoperi/Titan over the last year or so in much greater detail, fantastic! Edit; just read that Nick Sloane gave to go-ahead to start the Parbuckle 10 mins ago @ 9am UK time. Edited September 16, 2013 by CTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMars Posted September 16, 2013 #4955 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Morning All, Well, Reuters have spoilt us all, live video, audio, cameras panning round, we're not used to this!! Thanks to those who posted the links, & of course to Reuters! Regarding the sound/audio, I'm hearing the sea waves, sea gulls, a distant helicopter, & presumably camera crews talking in the back ground. Do we have any idea where the microphone is, & will it pickup the strand jacks, cables/wires, pumps operating, & CC's hull groaning under the strain? Anyone heard any other noises so far? I'm going to use the brown/black oily tidemark/waterline on the white paint just under the bridge window as a measure of movement, it comes into camera shot looking @ the front/bow of CC every so often. There's even a 'pause' button facility @ the bottom of the screen to look @ all the work done by Micoperi/Titan over the last year or so in much greater detail, fantastic! No hull groaning, yet. I've been using that water line, too, so I know exactly what you are talking about. I am so glad they are doing the live streams for this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive and anne Posted September 16, 2013 #4956 Share Posted September 16, 2013 I have been using the same watermark CTH. The Parbuckling Project website is down again so its hard to get an official update. They did say they were going to increase the pressure by 200lbs increments and expect it will take 5000Lbs to make the PB. They haven't said how often they will increase the pressure. Guess that will depend on the distortion the wreck is suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMars Posted September 16, 2013 #4957 Share Posted September 16, 2013 A couple of other spots to watch are the top rail on the starboard side in relation to the red booms and the sponsons on port as they sink into the water and the top deck should also show a waterline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balf Posted September 16, 2013 #4958 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Assuming the camera position does not alter the horizon is the best marker I think. In one shot the (sorry for my ignorance) the mushroom like structure on the deck started off just about lined up with the horizon ( which should be constant) It does appear to have moved up a little. There must be some awful pressure on the starboard bilge right now. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pspercy Posted September 16, 2013 #4959 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Rather surprised at all the small boat traffic nearby. Any one of those cables breaking could do real damage not to even consider anything going wrong later if the hull doesn't hold up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMars Posted September 16, 2013 #4960 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Sunset is at 7:17 PM today in Italy, so if it takes them 12 hours we won't be seeing much after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMars Posted September 16, 2013 #4961 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Check out all the vessels in the area on AIS. [URL]http://www.vesselfinder.com/[/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive and anne Posted September 16, 2013 #4962 Share Posted September 16, 2013 She appears to be moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMars Posted September 16, 2013 #4963 Share Posted September 16, 2013 [quote name='clive and anne']She appears to be moving[/quote] Definitely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCFC Posted September 16, 2013 #4964 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Using the cross in the middle of the pool at the back and the tide mark at the front by the bridge to gauge how much its moved, it looks as if the front has raised more than the rear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTH Posted September 16, 2013 #4965 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) The black oily tidemark under the bridge definitely rising, as is Balf/David's 'mushroom' antenna above the horizon. Next thing to lookout for is the bottom corner of the stern-end vertical caisson/sponson, which @ the moment is just above the water line, to start submerging down into the depths towards the underwater platforms. I'm probably being a little particular, but quite a few news channels are reporting that CC is to be 'raised' today. The viewers who don't know much about it will probably expecting her to be floating by this evening, & to be towed away shortly. They will therefore be suprised to find that if the parbuckle is successful, CC will be 'righted', but then finish up lower in the water than she is @ present. Big difference between 'righted' & 'raised'!! Unable to connect to GiglioNews or the Parbuckling project. Edited September 16, 2013 by CTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNUZULOOSE Posted September 16, 2013 #4966 Share Posted September 16, 2013 She is moving. I hope it is going the way they thought it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMars Posted September 16, 2013 #4967 Share Posted September 16, 2013 [quote name='CTH']The black oily tidemark under the bridge definitely rising, as is Balf/David's 'mushroom' antenna above the horizon. Next thing to lookout for is the bottom corner of the stern-end vertical caisson/sponson, which @ the moment is just above the water line, to start submerging down into the depths towards the underwater platforms. I'm probably being a little particular, but quite a few news channels are reporting that CC is to be 'raised' today. The viewers who don't know much about it will probably expecting her to be floating by this evening, & to be towed away shortly. They will therefore be suprised to find that if the parbuckle is successful, CC will be 'righted', but then finish up lower in the water than she is @ present. Big difference between 'righted' & 'raised'!! Unable to connect to GiglioNews or the Parbuckling project.[/quote] Yep, should be interesting when they all see the ship start sinking again as the sponsons are filled with water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganMars Posted September 16, 2013 #4968 Share Posted September 16, 2013 [quote name='USNUZULOOSE']She is moving. I hope it is going the way they thought it would.[/quote] Did you get your nap?:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNUZULOOSE Posted September 16, 2013 #4969 Share Posted September 16, 2013 [quote name='MorganMars']Did you get your nap?:)[/QUOTE] Yes I did. Thank You. I needed it.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka's Skipper Posted September 16, 2013 #4970 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Morning Everyone! I only have limited time today. of course!:rolleyes: Believe it or not a I have a sunken boat dock to go watch get pulled out of the water!:( AKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive and anne Posted September 16, 2013 #4971 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Do we think the rotation will speed up once she is clear of those rocks and the pressure increases?? I think before I quoted 200 lbs and 4000 lbs, I think that should have been tons. I bet he didn't sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNUZULOOSE Posted September 16, 2013 #4972 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) [QUOTE=Tonka's Skipper;39973053]Morning Everyone! I only have limited time today. of course!:rolleyes: Believe it or not a I have a sunken boat dock to go watch get pulled out of the water!:( AKK[/QUOTE] Good Morning.Oh my goodness, hope all goes well with that. Do you know how it sank? Edited September 16, 2013 by USNUZULOOSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balf Posted September 16, 2013 #4973 Share Posted September 16, 2013 [quote name='CTH']l, CC will be 'righted', but then finish up lower in the water than she is @ present. Big difference between 'righted' & 'raised'!! [/QUOTE] Yes, this thread has some way to yet. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clive and anne Posted September 16, 2013 #4974 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Tonka You have left it a bit late to get to Italy haven't you. BBC & Sky News are using the same feed as we are watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka's Skipper Posted September 16, 2013 #4975 Share Posted September 16, 2013 [quote name='USNUZULOOSE']Good Morning.Oh my goodness, hope all goes well with that. Do you know how it sank?[/quote] Well I told them I was not leaving here until the crane to on site. A 44' Viking throttle locked on 1 engine as they were approaching thier slip Sunday morning and tore into the dock. Luckily no one was hurt and the other boat damage was minor. The Viking we got out of the water yesterday. She will spend the winter in the repair yard though. AKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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