Someone Please Explain How a Ship is a certain Class.

[eriedearie]

I'm new to cruising have only been on one cruise February 2012 on the Destiny. In June I'm cruising on the Liberty with my family, thank you.

[KenMo]

Liberty is a Conquest class ship. Which means Liberty has the same deckplans as all other Conquest class ships. The difference is the decor.

 

Legend is a Spirit class ship. So it has the same deckplans as all other Spirit class ships. The difference is the decor.

 

I don't think there's any particular reason for the name of the class. They can call it Hoover class if they want. Just a name.

[CapeCodCruiser]

The first ship built in a certain style & layout becomes the name for that "class". The Conquest was first built and became the class for Glory, Valor, Liberty & Freedom. The Dream, Magic and Breeze are the newest class - the Dream class.

 

The Destiny Class includes Triumph & Victory.

 

This procedure is consistent throughout shipbuilding - aircraft carriers, submarines - whatever.

[forwardcabin]

Here is an article that also explains Carnival ship classes...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080502121036AAvoJvl

[cruisinqt]

It's also about size too. The conquest class ships used to be the largest class of ship Carnival had at 110,000 tons until the Dream class came out. The Dream class at 130,000 tons is the bigger class of ship now. When a newer bigger ship comes out, the first one made is the name of that class or size of ship. The Conquest was the first 110,000 ton ship so all the ships her size and layout were called "Conquest class" ships. It's the same with the Dream. Not only are they the same layout but more importantly, they are usually larger with more room and amenities. :) hope this helps

[eriedearie]

Thanks everyone.

[emelvee]

I don't think there's any particular reason for the name of the class. They can call it Hoover class if they want. Just a name.

I hope they don't use that name. It would suck.

 

:D

[truecruiser]

each ship in a class is essentially the same exact ship. they are "sister ships" but have different decor, themes and interiors. the layouts will be the same, as will the amenities, (unless it is a new amenity being incorporated into that class and that particular ship has not yet gone into to dry dock to get its upgrades). but, basically, they're all the same in length, tonnage, capacity, etc.

 

here is Carnival's Fleet:

 

Holiday Class

 

Holiday (1985)

 

Fantasy Class

 

Carnival Fantasy (1990)

Carnival Ecstasy (1991)

Carnival Sensation (1993)

Carnival Fascination (1994)

Carnival Imagination (1995)

Carnival Inspiration (1996)

Carnival Elation (1998)

Carnival Paradise (1998)

 

Destiny Class

 

Carnival Destiny (1996)

 

Triumph Class

 

Carnival Triumph (1999)

Carnival Victory (2000)

 

Conquest Class

 

Carnival Conquest (2002)

Carnival Glory (July, 2003)

Carnival Valor (Dec, 2004)

Carnival Liberty (July, 2005)

Carnival Freedom (2007)

 

Spirit Class

 

Carnival Spirit (2001)

Carnival Pride (2002)

Carnival Legend (2002)

Carnival Miracle (Feb, 2004)

 

Splendor Class

 

Carnival Splendor (July, 2008)

 

Dream Class

 

Carnival Dream (September, 2009)

Carnival Magic (May, 2011)

Carnival Breeze(June 3, 2012)

 

Holiday class is the smallest. The ships in this class, with the exception of maybe still the holiday itself, have either been retired, taken out of service, moved and re-named to be used in a sister company, or sold.

[ItsAllAboutTheSass]

The first ship built in a certain style & layout becomes the name for that "class". The Conquest was first built and became the class for Glory, Valor, Liberty & Freedom. The Dream, Magic and Breeze are the newest class - the Dream class.

 

The Destiny Class includes Triumph & Victory.

 

This procedure is consistent throughout shipbuilding - aircraft carriers, submarines - whatever.

 

 

Per Carnival, the Destiny is it's own class, while the Triumph and Victory are in the Triumph class.

 

https://www.goccl.com/content/form-policy/documents/ShipClassGuide0312.pdf

[truecruiser]

Here's a list with more info that you might like -- not sure how accurate the tonnage and ax capacity are on this list, but it's easy to confirm if you care, by comparing to the specs on CCLs site.

 

Dream Class

 

Dream Class ships are the largest in the Carnival Cruise Line Fleet. Dream Class ships include the Carnival Dream and Carnival Magic. Ships in this class have a gross tonnage of 130,000 and a length of 1,004 feet, with a cruising speed of 20 knots. They can carry up to 3,652 guests.

 

Splendor Class

 

The Carnival Splendor is the only ship in Carnival's Splendor class. It has a gross tonnage of 113,300 and a length of 952 feet, with a cruising speed of 21 knots. The Carnival Splendor can carry up to 3,006 passengers in its 1,503 state rooms.

 

Conquest Class

 

Conquest class ships have an average gross tonnage of 110,000 and length of 952 feet, with a cruising speed of 22.5 knots. Assuming at least two passengers per cabin, they can accommodate up to 2,974 guests.

 

Triumph Class

 

Triumph class ships have a gross tonnage of 101,509 and a length of 893 feet. They cruise along at 21 knots and have accommodations for 2,758 passengers.

 

Destiny Class

 

Carnival Cruise Lines has just one ship in the Destiny class, the Carnival Destiny. This ship is just slightly smaller than the Triumph class. The Carnival Destiny weighs 101,353 gross tons, is 892 feet long, cruises along at 21 knots per hour and can accommodate 2,642 passengers.

 

Spirit Class

 

Spirit class ships are lower and sleeker than most others in the Carnival fleet. They have a gross tonnage of just 88,500, but are 960 to 963 feet long. They hold 2,124 passengers (assuming double occupancy).

 

Fantasy Class

 

Carnival's smallest ships are in its Fantasy Class. Ships in this class have a gross tonnage of 70,367 and length of 855 feet. They cruise at 21 knots and can accommodate 2,052 guests.

[rprice11]

I hope they don't use that name. It would suck.

 

:D

 

LOL. Nice one.

[Spaniel Lover]

One other thing to mention is that the shipyards keep their costs down... and therefore the cruise lines save money when they have a ship built... by making multiple copies of a ship rather than having to make a brand new design from scratch every time. So, that's why you have a whole bunch of ships in a fleet that all have the same basic design.

 

For example, there's no sense in coming up with a whole new design for each individual system in a ship every time you make a new ship. You just use the same propulsion system, the same waste system, the same fire suppression system, etc... and that saves money.

 

Now eventually, over time, the folks that design cruise ships come up with new and improved systems and those are incorporated in to the next class of ship.

 

Another interesting thing about ship classes is that sometimes you see classes that stretch over multiple cruise lines. For example, the Carnival Splendor is in the same class as the Costa Concordia. They have the same basic design... the same systems and specifications. Of course, each individual ship in a class will have different architecture and interior style... but the basic layout and systems will be the same.

[truecruiser]

...The Destiny Class includes Triumph & Victory...

 

sorta correct, but no.

 

the Destiny (a very pretty ship), is almost a sister ship to Triumph and Victory. The layouts are the same, and its tonnage, feet and capacity are nearly the same, but it's not exactly the same, so it is not in the same class.

 

Per Carnival, the Destiny is it's own class, while the Triumph and Victory are in the Triumph class.

 

Correct. Because the Destiny, while nearly identical to Victory and Triumph has one less deck, so it's not the same, and therefore is not a sister ship in the same class.

[CapeCodCruiser]

That's what I get for quick read in Wiki - the Destiny was the first in a new class - then changes to it for Triumph thusly created the new Triumph class.

 

You can always count on lots of CC folks to quickly point out a mistake.

[ItsAllAboutTheSass]

That's what I get for quick read in Wiki - the Destiny was the first in a new class - then changes to it for Triumph thusly created the new Triumph class.

 

You can always count on lots of CC folks to quickly point out a mistake.

 

Just wanted to clear up mis-information ;)

[eriedearie]

Thanks again everyone for all the great info. I appreciate it.

[gusandgidgetsmom]

But thankfully not the same captain!!

Another interesting thing about ship classes is that sometimes you see classes that stretch over multiple cruise lines. For example, the Carnival Splendor is in the same class as the Costa Concordia. They have the same basic design... the same systems and specifications. Of course, each individual ship in a class will have different architecture and interior style... but the basic layout and systems will be the same.

[MrPete]

Per Carnival, the Destiny is it's own class, while the Triumph and Victory are in the Triumph class.

 

https://www.goccl.com/content/form-policy/documents/ShipClassGuide0312.pdf

 

Not always. All three used to be known as the Destiny class. I still have the brochures that state this. Somewhere along the line, the latter two for some reason were spun off to their own class.

 

The Holiday class used to also include the Jubilee and Celebration, although the latter 2 were a little different with a different tonnage.

[ItsAllAboutTheSass]

Not always. All three used to be known as the Destiny class. I still have the brochures that state this. Somewhere along the line, the latter two for some reason were spun off to their own class.

 

The Holiday class used to also include the Jubilee and Celebration, although the latter 2 were a little different with a different tonnage.

 

The Triumph and Victory petitioned Carnival to not be associated with the Destiny.

[truecruiser]

The Triumph and Victory petitioned Carnival to not be associated with the Destiny.

 

This I never heard:confused: Who petitioned? The captain's who were assigned to them at the time? The CDs who were assigned to them at the time? The guests? lol

 

Pete's right. when the later ships (triumph and vicotry) first came into service they were being lumped into the destiny class. i remember this distinctly from the first time i sailed victory because I asked a crew member on board about it because I liked the ship a lot at the time (not so much now because of the dead ends). I had not sailed the destiny yet -- i sailed victory before destiny, so I wasn't onboard knowing "gee this looks like a destiny class ship."

 

It was initially lumped this way because the ships ARE almost identical in many major ways, and it has always been my understanding that eventually they were broken out because they weren't "completely" identical: destiny having one less deck, not because there was a petition or request.

[truecruiser]

Oh, unless CCL had to request corporate (carnival corporation) to make the spilt official. Is that what happened?