FIRELT5 Posted May 27, 2013 #276 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I wish this picture had a bit better perspective. From what little I can see this space most likely has smoke and water damage. The windows were probably taken out to provide ventilation and to also flow water onto the fire from above and to also try and keep the outer hull steel cooled. Also some charring around the Windows. Heavly stained interior windows with Soot is also visible. Wow !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elsie Eisle Posted May 27, 2013 #277 Share Posted May 27, 2013 People it has only been 12 hours...it takes a while to access the damage...they have only been in port 4 hours. Look how long it takes on land to determine the cause and how long it will take fix it. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet524 Posted May 27, 2013 #278 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Geez, I just watched a CNN report on this incident and they report it was pandemonium onboard. They showed a video taken by a passenger and it appeared that everyone at the muster stations were calm although certainly concerned about the situation. Of course they reported there was pandemonium! It's not sensational if they report that things were calm and orderly. It's all about the shock value in reporting these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIRELT5 Posted May 27, 2013 #279 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I'd guess it's from the crew taking out the windows for ventilation. I would think many of the windows would be cracked or deformed in other spots too. That a good point, I wish we had some more PIX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfl Posted May 27, 2013 #280 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Closer up view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalC Posted May 27, 2013 #281 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I'd guess it's from the crew taking out the windows for ventilation. I would think many of the windows would be cracked or deformed in other spots too. Possible, but then why take out the lower windows too? The chair was singed as well. I would guess the fire/heat caused both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng23 Posted May 27, 2013 #282 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Also some charring around the Windows. Heavly stained interior windows with Soot is also visible. Wow !!! Certainly some smoke staining there but also keep in mind those windows already had a dark tint to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allison0523 Posted May 27, 2013 #283 Share Posted May 27, 2013 It is wonderful to see such a positive outcome. My hat is off to an outstanding Command Staff and crew. That's why I cruise with RCI. I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIRELT5 Posted May 27, 2013 #284 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Closer up view I wonder what is in the Storage rooms in deck 4 & 5 Looks Like Folks are back in the Aft cabin on Starboard Division 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng23 Posted May 27, 2013 #285 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Possible, but then why take out the lower windows too? The chair was singed as well. I would guess the fire/heat caused both. You would also take out the lower windows for water to drain out. Water will undoubtably leak from fire hose in operation and you do not want water to collect and pool up inside the ship. Without a doubt when those windows were taken out there would have been a lot of heat/smoke entering from the fire below causing heat damage to furnishings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng23 Posted May 27, 2013 #286 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I wonder what is in the Storage rooms in deck 4 & 5 Looks Like Folks are back in the Aft cabin on Division 8 As someone else stated earlier I believe the Deck 4 area is a crew recreation area. I believe Deck 5 would be storage areas and the galley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted May 27, 2013 #287 Share Posted May 27, 2013 The CG is reporting The fire started on the aft mooring deck and spread to the fourth deck at the crew lounge area before it was extinguished, Coast Guard spokeswoman Marilyn Fajardo said. Information on the fire's cause wasn't available, she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalC Posted May 27, 2013 #288 Share Posted May 27, 2013 You would also take out the lower windows for water to drain out. Water will undoubtably leak from fire hose in operation and you do not want water to collect and pool up inside the ship. Without a doubt when those windows were taken out there would have been a lot of heat/smoke entering from the fire below causing heat damage to furnishings. Wouldn't the ledge prevent the water from draining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng23 Posted May 27, 2013 #289 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Wouldn't the ledge prevent the water from draining? Not once the water goes over it. Those fire hoses flow up to 150 gallons per minute. Water would collect quickly and flow over that ledge easily. The angle of those lower windows also allowed the crew to directly flow water down towards the fire which is why they would have been taken out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzincurt Posted May 27, 2013 #290 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I bet it's a cigarette. A passenger probably threw it from an aft balcony. Maybe a crew member on a smoke break? We'll know soon enough. This will gin up the Congress for hearings rather than spend their time on their business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eng23 Posted May 27, 2013 #291 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Maybe a crew member on a smoke break? We'll know soon enough. This would be more likely than from a passenger tossing a butt off of their balcony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seannyice81 Posted May 27, 2013 #292 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Its great to read that everyone is safe and the ship is in working order. Judging from the photos, it could have been so much worse. The Carnival Ecstasy fire was reportedly caused by welding igniting a dusty laundry chute. Just like the rest of you I'm very curious as to what caused this fire. How ironic the Triumph is also in Freeport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margarita Jane Posted May 27, 2013 #293 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Thanks to Dharma for giving us live reports. Glad to see Captain and crew taking positive action during the situation. The captain was awakening 2000+ passengers! Hats off to the Captain and Crew for their handling of this emergency. ~ Jane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalC Posted May 27, 2013 #294 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Maybe a crew member on a smoke break? We'll know soon enough. Too bad the media is taking the day off! No real news on today- just a rehash of old news. The only way a cig butt could come from a balcony is the aft balconies- that would be a long shot from that distance/angle. I am sure someone from the crew knows something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvdale Posted May 27, 2013 #295 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Was the Spendor and G or the seas at Port Canaveral yesterday??? Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIRELT5 Posted May 27, 2013 #296 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Too bad the media is taking the day off! No real news on today- just a rehash of old news. The only way a cig butt could come from a balcony is the aft balconies- that would be a long shot from that distance/angle. I am sure someone from the crew knows something... Hopefully some CCTV camera's were located in the vicinity or origin area ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peeker28 Posted May 27, 2013 #297 Share Posted May 27, 2013 How do they wake all the passengers? What if you are a heavy sleeper would they just come in your room and get you up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavo68 Posted May 27, 2013 #298 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Didn't this ship just get revitalized?? We are looking at going on this next summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMagz Posted May 27, 2013 #299 Share Posted May 27, 2013 RC can do dry docks of entire ships in 7-10 days, so they should have Grandeur up and running in great condition asap. True -- but in those cases the dry dock is planned for months if not years beforehand with all vendors, parts, supplies, craftspeople, plans, etc.. all worked out before the ship even docks. No doubt RCCL is scrambling but this would not be a typical dry dock-type exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalC Posted May 27, 2013 #300 Share Posted May 27, 2013 How do they wake all the passengers? What if you are a heavy sleeper would they just come in your room and get you up? Hopefully someone in the room with you will wake you up. If you cannot hear the alarm though, then you are certainly an extremely heavy sleeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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