Justyman87 Posted December 28, 2013 #1 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I don’t know if this has been discussed and I apologize if it has, I did a quick search of the forums and didn’t see anything. I know Wikipedia isn’t reliable but I just saw that the Carnival Fantasy is going to be leaving the Carnival fleet and go join Ibero Cruises. Is this true? I doubt the Vista will take over out of Charleston. Is this the end of Charleston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamGoodyTwoShoes Posted December 28, 2013 #2 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Interesting rumor. I imagine Carnival will have no comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted December 28, 2013 #3 Share Posted December 28, 2013 We shall see but given that they now will have two ships the better part of a year in Australia kind of surprised at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justyman87 Posted December 28, 2013 Author #4 Share Posted December 28, 2013 We shall see but given that they now will have two ships the better part of a year in Australia kind of surprised at this. Only way I see this happening is if they move another ship back to Charleston. Possibly another Fantasy class ship and move things around. I don’t know, it’s been rumored before and she is one of Carnival’s oldest ships. Maybe we can see the Sensation leaving PC and have three big ships in PC or something like that. I honestly have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamGoodyTwoShoes Posted December 28, 2013 #5 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised to see Carnival send a ship to Asia. The market is exploding. Currently Europe is still soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topo Gigio Posted December 28, 2013 #6 Share Posted December 28, 2013 They have enough ships in Florida, so if the Charleston market is interesting enough they will put another ship there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey806 Posted December 28, 2013 #7 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Join the other east coast ports north of florida losing carnival ships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justyman87 Posted December 28, 2013 Author #8 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised to see Carnival send a ship to Asia. The market is exploding. Currently Europe is still soft. Don’t think it will happen so soon. The Carnival type I just don’t think is right for Asia. However, I can be wrong. On our Alaskan cruise there was a nice proportion of Asians on the cruise. I think for 2016 we can see the following: Ecstasy- Miami Sensation- Charleston? Canaveral? Fascination- Jacksonville Imagination- Long Beach Inspiration- Long Beach Elation- New Orleans Paradise- Tampa Sunshine- Port Canaveral Triumph- Galveston Victory- Miami Spirit- Australia Pride- Tampa Legend- Australia Miracle- Long Beach Conquest- Miami Glory- Miami Valor- San Juan Liberty- Port Canaveral Freedom- Everglades Splendor- Miami Dream- New Orleans Magic- Galveston Breeze- Miami Vista- Port Canaveral? New York? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattcj89 Posted December 28, 2013 #9 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Wikipedia also says that Splendor is going back to Costa in 2016. I take anything on Wikipedia with a grain of salt - anyone can add info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamGoodyTwoShoes Posted December 28, 2013 #10 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Don’t think it will happen so soon. The Carnival type I just don’t think is right for Asia. However, I can be wrong. On our Alaskan cruise there was a nice proportion of Asians on the cruise. Carnival Corp (Princess?) now has a homeport in Japan and a number of offices opened in China along with South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore. Think they expect biz to double next year from the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justyman87 Posted December 28, 2013 Author #11 Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) Wikipedia also says that Splendor is going back to Costa in 2016. I take anything on Wikipedia with a grain of salt - anyone can add info. Where does it say that? on the Carnival Splendor page it only says that the ship was made for Costa but transferred to Carnival. Carnival Corp (Princess?) now has a homeport in Japan and a number of offices opened in China along with South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Singapore. Think they expect biz to double next year from the region. Like I said, I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened just don’t think it will happen that soon. Carnival and Princess to me are like totally different cruise lines. Carnival is focused on low coast cruising and I don’t know if that will be big in Asia. Edited December 28, 2013 by Justyman87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaGoingDAD Posted December 28, 2013 #12 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I don’t know if this has been discussed and I apologize if it has, I did a quick search of the forums and didn’t see anything. I know Wikipedia isn’t reliable but I just saw that the Carnival Fantasy is going to be leaving the Carnival fleet and go join Ibero Cruises. Is this true? I doubt the Vista will take over out of Charleston. Is this the end of Charleston? That ship has been up for sale for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topo Gigio Posted December 28, 2013 #13 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Where does it say that? on the Carnival Splendor page it only says that the ship was made for Costa but transferred to Carnival. Like I said, I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened just don’t think it will happen that soon. Carnival and Princess to me are like totally different cruise lines. Carnival is focused on low coast cruising and I don’t know if that will be big in Asia. Could make sense to me if true. Looks like Carnival has too much ships right now in the fleet and they keep saturating the Florida market with them with (almost) identical itineraries.Looks like the Florida market is the only region that absorb those ships well. So when the Vista come online in 2016, I can see them sending the Splendor to Costa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattcj89 Posted December 28, 2013 #14 Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) Where does it say that? on the Carnival Splendor page it only says that the ship was made for Costa but transferred to Carnival. Like I said, I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened just don’t think it will happen that soon. Carnival and Princess to me are like totally different cruise lines. Carnival is focused on low coast cruising and I don’t know if that will be big in Asia. I just saw it last night and I can't find it anymore. It basically said that due to Costa losing two ships that they were going to put Splendor through a 3-4 month drydock in 2016 and rename the ship Costa Hermosa. After the refit it said that the ship would go to Asia. I'm still looking to see if I can find it. Edited December 28, 2013 by mattcj89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justyman87 Posted December 28, 2013 Author #15 Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) I just saw it last night and I can't find it anymore. It basically said that due to Costa losing two ships that they were going to put Splendor through a 3-4 month drydock in 2016 and rename the ship Costa Hermosa. After the refit it said that the ship would go to Asia. I'm still looking to see if I can find it. Makes sense… so many Carnival ships in the USA, I mean truly how many can Carnival support? Not only support but the ports also, I mean Nassau and Freeport can only hold so many ships. http://cruiseforums.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?p=38496162- Thread you where talking about? Edited December 28, 2013 by Justyman87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaGoingDAD Posted December 28, 2013 #16 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I just saw it last night and I can't find it anymore. It basically said that due to Costa losing two ships that they were going to put Splendor through a 3-4 month drydock in 2016 and rename the ship Costa Hermosa. After the refit it said that the ship would go to Asia. I'm still looking to see if I can find it. Carnival hasn't already learned about the consequences of renaming a ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted December 28, 2013 #17 Share Posted December 28, 2013 We shall see but somehow dont think that Carnival is going to want to shrink their fleet by two ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justyman87 Posted December 28, 2013 Author #18 Share Posted December 28, 2013 We shall see but somehow dont think that Carnival is going to want to shrink their fleet by two ships. Well technically one because they are getting the Vista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattcj89 Posted December 28, 2013 #19 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Makes sense… so many Carnival ships in the USA, I mean truly how many can Carnival support? Not only support but the ports also, I mean Nassau and Freeport can only hold so many ships. http://cruiseforums.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?p=38496162- Thread you where talking about? That's not what I was looking at but thanks for the link. At least I know I'm not completely crazy now. I really don't see Carnival doing away with Splendor, they just need to get away from concentrating the entire fleet on Florida ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topo Gigio Posted December 28, 2013 #20 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I just saw it last night and I can't find it anymore. It basically said that due to Costa losing two ships that they were going to put Splendor through a 3-4 month drydock in 2016 and rename the ship Costa Hermosa. After the refit it said that the ship would go to Asia. I'm still looking to see if I can find it. 3-4 month dry dock will become 3-4 weeks dry dock;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vols_159 Posted December 28, 2013 #21 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I dont see Carnival moving another ship to Charleston till all the lawsuits have been settled.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecruises Posted December 28, 2013 #22 Share Posted December 28, 2013 That's not what I was looking at but thanks for the link. At least I know I'm not completely crazy now. I really don't see Carnival doing away with Splendor, they just need to get away from concentrating the entire fleet on Florida ports. Looking at the snow covered Pride pics - brrrr - who wants to cruise in that mess? So much better to start off nice and warm and get to nice islands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poison7fl Posted December 28, 2013 #23 Share Posted December 28, 2013 (edited) I wouldn't be surprised. It's their oldest ship (1990 build), and Ibero already has the Celebration and Holiday. It's still a great ship, and makes sense to me. Edited December 28, 2013 by poison7fl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfadj Posted December 28, 2013 #24 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Looking at the snow covered Pride pics - brrrr - who wants to cruise in that mess? So much better to start off nice and warm and get to nice islands Agreed and that is why we start our winter cruises in Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The4Cruisers Posted December 29, 2013 #25 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Carnival hasn't already learned about the consequences of renaming a ship? What did they learn from renaming the Destiny? A little blip of unpopularity with some, but nothing bad that I've heard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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