triple3 Posted April 11, 2014 #1 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Heard that there is a new no smoking rule on balcony..any truth? Last cruise was ruined by smokers on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine1925 Posted April 11, 2014 #2 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Apparently so - see below When will the smoking policy change take place? The change will start from 26th March 2014 on P&O Ventura and 28th April 2014 on Queen Victoria, with the remaining ships to follow in April after the 2014 World Cruises. Queen Elizabeth will be in dry-dock at this time so the change takes place from June instead. The full list of cruises with the new smoking policy are listed below: P&O Adonia D402 29th April 2014 - 6 night Guernsey and France P&O Arcadia J402 13th April 2014 - 17 night Central Mediterranean P&O Aurora R402 24th April 2014 - 3 night Bruges Short Break P&O Azura A407 4th April 2014 - 3 night Bruges Short Break P&O Oceana E406 5th April 2014 - 14 night Western Mediterranean P&O Oriana X408 18th April 2014 - 2 night Bruges Short Break P&O Ventura N407/N407A 26th March 2014 - 7/14 night Mediterranean Fly-Cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple3 Posted April 11, 2014 Author #3 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Thanks, this will go down well with smokers who booked not knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine1925 Posted April 11, 2014 #4 Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'm not a smoker but you can still smoke on certain parts of the fleet - see below Where can I smoke on board? There are dedicated areas on each ship where you are permitted to smoke*. Smoking is not permitted in any public room, inside your cabin or on your cabin balcony. *Due to weather and/or cleaning process, these locations may change from time to time. Designated Smoking Areas Adonia: Deck 9 Starboard Side Forward (Open deck) Deck 5 - Starboard Side Arcadia: Deck 11 - Port side, outside the East bar Deck 10 - Port side, outside the Crow's Nest bar Deck 10 - Port side, aft, above Aquarius bar Deck 9 - Port side, table area of Aquarius bar Deck 3 - Starboard side of Promenade deck Aurora: Port side and aft outer deck on decks 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 & 14. Azura: Starboard side of open decks. Oceana: Deck 12 Port side forward. Deck 15 port side forward by the Pennant Bar Deck 7 Port side all along the promenade deck Oriana: Deck 12 Forward - by the Riviera pool on the port side Deck 12 Aft - by the Terrace bar - Starboard side Decks 11 down to 9 on the aft end, starboard side. Deck 7 starboard side of the Prom Deck Ventura: Deck 15 Starboard forward Deck 7 Starboard side of Prom Deck Safety Information All smoking areas will be sign posted as designated smoking areas. It is prohibited to throw cigarette ends or flick ash over the ship’s side or over your balcony handrail because they can be drawn back into the ship and cause a fire hazard. Please use the receptacles and ashtrays provided and ensure that smoking materials are fully extinguished. Electronic Cigarettes For information regarding electronic cigarettes, please see "Do you allow the use of electronic cigarettes in non smoking areas on your ships?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the english lady Posted April 11, 2014 #5 Share Posted April 11, 2014 It has been discussed for quite some time. We were also sent emails and a letter along with our confirmation letter stating about the new smoking rules. I think p and O started saying about it last year. Also if you are a smoker would you not have asked about where you could smoke at the time of booking. I think there are a couple of places on deck where smokers can still huddle. I know when this was first mentioned some people were saying they would not book balconies now, as the only reason they booked one was so they could smoke. I think we must have been lucky as we have not had any seriously heavy smokers anywhere near us. Mind you we have had some "nice smokers coughs" clearing their lungs first thing in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple3 Posted April 11, 2014 Author #6 Share Posted April 11, 2014 A friend just returned from a P&O cruise, only smoked his pipe in permitted areas.. made the big mistake of cleaning his pipe in the cabin, his steward found filters in the waste bin and reported him, thinking that he lit up in the cabin. My friends punishment..a notice was pinned on the door for all to see that smoking in cabins was forbidden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middy Posted April 11, 2014 #7 Share Posted April 11, 2014 When I booked yesterday was advised only smoking on upper deck, must be deck 12 on Oriana. Didn't mention the promenade deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvin moondust Posted April 11, 2014 #8 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Not being a vigilante but this is good news for us, On our Caribbean trip the cabin next door was occupied by three elderly women one of whom was a chain smoker with a cough that suggested she had only hours to live, It was very unpleasant for us, both smell and sound!!:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scriv Posted April 12, 2014 #9 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I have not had a balcony yet, so have not experienced being next to a smoker on a ship. However, we have just had a holiday in a terraced apartment on a complex and found we shared every cigarette and cough with next door!! They were constantly lighting up and the smell would be over our side immediately - and that without the wind of the sea. Quite frankly, it was horrible and it was then that I could fully appreciate how a next door cabin smoker could make things very unpleasant on a cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple3 Posted April 12, 2014 Author #10 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Pound to a penny some insignificant nonentity of an individual will ignore the rules & spark up with no action from the crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elviex Posted April 12, 2014 #11 Share Posted April 12, 2014 We are really glad about this ban as I suffer from bronchiectasis. Never touched a cigarette in my (fairly long!) life. If any of you happen to be in a cabin near us I apologise now for my cough,,,part of the condition I'm afraid. Always makes for a talking point!! Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennbank Posted April 12, 2014 #12 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I'm not a smoker but you can still smoke on certain parts of the fleet - see belowWhere can I smoke on board? There are dedicated areas on each ship where you are permitted to smoke*. Smoking is not permitted in any public room, inside your cabin or on your cabin balcony. *Due to weather and/or cleaning process, these locations may change from time to time. Designated Smoking Areas Adonia: Deck 9 Starboard Side Forward (Open deck) Deck 5 - Starboard Side Arcadia: Deck 11 - Port side, outside the East bar Deck 10 - Port side, outside the Crow's Nest bar Deck 10 - Port side, aft, above Aquarius bar Deck 9 - Port side, table area of Aquarius bar Deck 3 - Starboard side of Promenade deck Aurora: Port side and aft outer deck on decks 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 & 14. Azura: Starboard side of open decks. Oceana: Deck 12 Port side forward. Deck 15 port side forward by the Pennant Bar Deck 7 Port side all along the promenade deck Oriana: Deck 12 Forward - by the Riviera pool on the port side Deck 12 Aft - by the Terrace bar - Starboard side Decks 11 down to 9 on the aft end, starboard side. Deck 7 starboard side of the Prom Deck Ventura: Deck 15 Starboard forward Deck 7 Starboard side of Prom Deck Safety Information All smoking areas will be sign posted as designated smoking areas. It is prohibited to throw cigarette ends or flick ash over the ship’s side or over your balcony handrail because they can be drawn back into the ship and cause a fire hazard. Please use the receptacles and ashtrays provided and ensure that smoking materials are fully extinguished. Electronic Cigarettes For information regarding electronic cigarettes, please see "Do you allow the use of electronic cigarettes in non smoking areas on your ships?" Good on them re electronic cigarettes although I thought most of them gave off a vapour Yes, electronic cigarettes that do not emit a vapour may be used in cabins and on cabin balconies however, they are not permitted in non-smoking public areas. Although we recognise that electronic cigarettes are not covered by the UK legislation we have taken the decision to prohibit their use in public areas in the same way as real cigarettes for the benefit of all of our passengers. Electronic cigarettes that do emit a vapour should be used in designated smoking areas only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denarius Posted April 12, 2014 #13 Share Posted April 12, 2014 (edited) Good on them re electronic cigarettesalthough I thought most of them gave off a vapour Yes, electronic cigarettes that do not emit a vapour may be used in cabins and on cabin balconies however, they are not permitted in non-smoking public areas. Although we recognise that electronic cigarettes are not covered by the UK legislation we have taken the decision to prohibit their use in public areas in the same way as real cigarettes for the benefit of all of our passengers. Electronic cigarettes that do emit a vapour should be used in designated smoking areas only. I am not a smoker, never have been. I find the smell of cigarette smoke extremely unpleasant. However, I find the above absolutely crazy. What conceivable harm to anyone else can someone do by smoking an e cigarette which emits nothing? Edited April 12, 2014 by Denarius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the english lady Posted April 12, 2014 #14 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Pound to a penny some insignificant nonentity of an individual will ignore the rules & spark up with no action from the crew. If its in the cabin I think there will be action. If its on the balcony There will be action, as I am sure other balcony cabins will complain. I once read on one of the American threads that on their ships you get fined sqillons (200$?) to enable a deep clean to be done on your cabin before the next occupant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine1925 Posted April 12, 2014 #15 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I am not a smoker, never have been. I find the smell of cigarette smoke extremely unpleasant. However, I find the above absolutely crazy. What conceivable harm to anyone else can someone do by smoking an e cigarette which emits nothing? Quite a bit actually - not sure how to link this but I found this in the Telegraph 8:36PM BST 08 Apr 2014 A barmaid was left shocked after an e-cigarette exploded in a Yorkshire pub, setting her dress alight. Laura Baty, 18, was serving a customer when she heard a loud bang and saw the device shoot in her direction. The flames singed her arms and set her dress on fire as she tried to get out of the way. The e-cigarette - which had been on charge behind the bar - then landed on the floor and scorched the vinyl tiles before burning itself out. Part of it also hit at customer at the Buck Inn Hotel, in Richmond, North Yorks, and left him with a red mark on his stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParCan Posted April 12, 2014 #16 Share Posted April 12, 2014 We cancelled our balcony the date P&O Announced this. Downgraded to the Chepest inside. Told them exactly why when asked as well. It's P&O's loss in my eyes and my gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc45 Posted April 12, 2014 #17 Share Posted April 12, 2014 We cancelled our balcony the date P&O Announced this.Downgraded to the Chepest inside. Told them exactly why when asked as well. It's P&O's loss in my eyes and my gain. I was wondering if they would allow downgrades due this change to the terms and conditions. I'm sure there'll be lots of people who flout the rule though. How can people prove where the smoke is coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadabout60 Posted April 13, 2014 #18 Share Posted April 13, 2014 We cancelled our balcony the date P&O Announced this.Downgraded to the Chepest inside. Told them exactly why when asked as well. It's P&O's loss in my eyes and my gain. Can't see how P&O will lose - may be a few smokers will book an inside but more people who want to enjoy the fresh air will book a balcony Fortunately smokers are still the minority of the population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted April 13, 2014 #19 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I am not a smoker, never have been. I find the smell of cigarette smoke extremely unpleasant. However, I find the above absolutely crazy. What conceivable harm to anyone else can someone do by smoking an e cigarette which emits nothing? The main reason for banning them is confusion amongst other passengers who might think the e-cig is real and complain to the crew who will then have to sort ths confusion out. Then you have the recent reports that e-cigs might not be safe after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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