richleeds Posted July 21, 2014 #51 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) As far as pricing is concerned P&O would have to make no less profit than they are now. I suggest something near £30 per day would be logical. Much less than that and people are getting the drink too cheap. They could do what 'T' do and use the package as a booking incentive. Book a select fare and get it free. Or later on at a reduced price like a cruise I am considering where the package costs £70 per week which is still a bargain. I can't see all drinks being included, especially wine by the bottle and some really expensive single drinks. Costa coffee may be excluded as well where they have a franchise. Yeah you are right, it will be wine by the glass and some premium spirits will either not be available or available with a supplement and as you say Costa will be excluded Edited July 21, 2014 by richleeds typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_uk Posted July 21, 2014 #52 Share Posted July 21, 2014 There is another reason why I probably wouldn't be interested in a drinks package. On other lines that have introduced it, you have to buy it in advance for all days remaining on your cruise - i.e., either before the cruise for the whole cruise, or during the cruise for all remaining days. It doesn't allow you to buy it for just some days. That doesn't suit me. In the context of a 14-night cruise my daily alcohol consumption will vary; some days I will have a reasonable amount to drink, other days I will drink more moderately, while on some days (especially on a 14-night cruise) I might not drink at all. For example, on the night before an early start for a long excursion I might stay sober. And not all of my drinking is necessarily on the ship. If we're ashore for a morning excursion we might well finish off the morning with lunch and drinks ashore (we did this at Ajaccio last summer, for example). I think these packages originated in the context of US lines' Caribbean cruises, which are rarely more than 7 nights and often shorter - quite a few lines do 3 and 4 night cruises out of Miami and Fort Lauderdale, for example. In that context the package makes sense for all parties: the line has a guaranteed revenue amount, and the passenger can feel that they might be getting a bargain. Finally, it's also the case that, once introduced, it will become part of the 'offers' system. Celebrity have frequently included their Classic drinks package as a booking-sweetener. What's the betting that Select fares would include a drinks package, or a reduction of the cost? And how much uproar would there be if Saver Fare passengers got offers on drinks packages that Select passengers hadn't received! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richleeds Posted July 21, 2014 #53 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I agree Tom, you talk to passengers on these packages and they feel obliged to drink heavily and to milk it for all its worth - understandable. I reckon the average person on these packages would want to get the cost of the days package back in drinks daily plus around 20-30% more to make it feel like they have got their money's worth and a bargain, so you have to go with the mindset of drinking a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler5010 Posted July 21, 2014 #54 Share Posted July 21, 2014 As far as pricing is concerned P&O would have to make no less profit than they are now. I suggest something near £30 per day would be logical. Much less than that and people are getting the drink too cheap. They could do what 'T' do and use the package as a booking incentive. Book a select fare and get it free. Or later on at a reduced price like a cruise I am considering where the package costs £70 per week which is still a bargain. I can't see all drinks being included, especially wine by the bottle and some really expensive single drinks. Costa coffee may be excluded as well where they have a franchise. It wouldn't work for us. I like to drink Prosecco with friends - we take it in turns to buy a bottle & I'm sure it won't be included in a drinks package. I also like a good Cognac after dinner - again probably not included. Hubby doesn't drink alcohol but drinks copious Costa coffees which wouldn't be included in the package. If our last transatlantic cruise is anything to go by, we had 10 days of terrible weather coming home so didn't feel like drinking so that would be a waste of money if we had paid & couldn't drink what we had paid for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAB1 Posted July 21, 2014 #55 Share Posted July 21, 2014 It wouldn't work for us. I like to drink Prosecco with friends - we take it in turns to buy a bottle & I'm sure it won't be included in a drinks package. I also like a good Cognac after dinner - again probably not included. Hubby doesn't drink alcohol but drinks copious Costa coffees which wouldn't be included in the package. If our last transatlantic cruise is anything to go by, we had 10 days of terrible weather coming home so didn't feel like drinking so that would be a waste of money if we had paid & couldn't drink what we had paid for! If P&O are trying to compete with Celebrity out of the UK they may well include it. We had the standard drink package with Celebrity last year and it included Prosecco(very nice it was too) and Courvoisier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadabout60 Posted July 21, 2014 #56 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Just back from Celebrityand had the classics drinks package - it was fine for us - included prosecco, some lovely dry white wines and the odd cocktail. Also all soft drinks etc. I probably drank a tad more than usual but not substantially so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCFC Posted July 21, 2014 Author #57 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The source I quoted does say that its ANY drink, still time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macren Posted July 21, 2014 #58 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I think if it was a reasonably price and it was 100% branded drinks and proper mixers and a reasonable house wine then yes a good idea but we wouldn't have it otherwise !not everyone abuses it it's just so that you know up front what your drinks bill will be !also would it include room service drinks (would save you taking your own),so guess we will have to wait and see the plans :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee-ess Posted July 21, 2014 #59 Share Posted July 21, 2014 If P&O are trying to compete with Celebrity out of the UK they may well include it. We had the standard drink package with Celebrity last year and it included Prosecco(very nice it was too) and Courvoisier. Yes Guys the Celebrity one includes Prosecco, Champagne, Port and Brandies, We have had the basic package twice and upgraded it to Premium which is far better we think. With the Premium one if your drink is over the limit price you only pay the difference, not the full price. Also on the Premium is all soft drinks, water (not cheap to buy) and premium coffees. Although we do drink quite a lot of alcohol, a big portion also goes on soft drinks and coffee, as well fresh orange at breakfast. I think if P&O do it they will have to include these things to make it attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinyork Posted July 21, 2014 #60 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I think that rather than try and compare with Celebrity's drinls packages it might be more relevant to compare with Princess since they are under the same umbrella. Princess' packages are detailed here: http://www.princess.com/cruise_vacation_planning/groups/Group_Bar_&_Beverage_Packages.pdf and have monetary limits to the various drink types. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinyork Posted July 21, 2014 #61 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The source I quoted does say that its ANY drink, still time will tell. Could it be they mean ANY drink within that package is included? I cannot imagine a package that allows access to absolutely any drink onboard. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bee-ess Posted July 21, 2014 #62 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Could it be they mean ANY drink within that package is included? I cannot imagine a package that allows access to absolutely any drink onboard. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Would have to have a price limit per drink, surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinyork Posted July 21, 2014 #63 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Would have to have a price limit per drink, surely Yes its the way all the others do it. Apart from say Regent who throw everything into their 6 star cruises. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallwe Posted July 22, 2014 #64 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I'm very much in favour of an All Inclusive package and would love it to be in place before my October cruise. But what would I spend all my OBS on, I've already booked my excursions? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikki21 Posted July 22, 2014 #65 Share Posted July 22, 2014 This is very interesting as my husband and I were just talking about an all inclusive drinks package and whether it was available on P&O and I said no there are wine packages but nothing all inclusive for drinks and lo and behold we have this thread and looks hopeful that it might happen. We had included inclusive drinks to a certain level plus wine on our recent Azamara cruise and it was great to just scan the list, have what you wanted on that list and not have to sign a bill! That makes life easy for us and of course if you wanted something extra then you paid for it but was great to get a Zero bill at the end of the cruise and we are not massive drinkers but will drink a bit more on our holidays! Let's hope this happens and soon! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_uk Posted July 22, 2014 #66 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) I did a blog post about these packages about 18 months ago. I came down fairly hard against them. On reflection perhaps I overstated the case, but only by a bit. Here's a link. I think the key thing to remember is that the lines aren't doing customers a favour - it must be to their benefit. That's worth thinking about. (Costs and limit amounts correct as of 18 months ago.) Edited July 22, 2014 by tom_uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsomer Madness Posted July 22, 2014 #67 Share Posted July 22, 2014 I'm very much in favour of an All Inclusive package and would love it to be in place before my October cruise. But what would I spend all my OBS on, I've already booked my excursions? ;-) Yes we have £1000 OBC for our Azura cruise in March. We would have the same dilemma, but I'm sure I'd manage ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickpo Posted July 22, 2014 #68 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Maybe if you buy the package on board then you could use your OBC to pay for it. Just a thought. Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallwe Posted July 23, 2014 #69 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Maybe if you buy the package on board then you could use your OBC to pay for it.Just a thought. Rick. Now there's a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombatar Posted July 24, 2014 #70 Share Posted July 24, 2014 We would certainly welcome this. Our fortnightly drinks bill is usually in the region of £1000 - £1200 so we would save money. Booked for Adonia Caribbean in February 2016 so lets hope it's in by then!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kikki21 Posted July 24, 2014 #71 Share Posted July 24, 2014 The TA I booked our Britannia cruise with the other day wasn't aware of anything happening with a drinks package but she did say that as per other cruise lines, you can add it on before the cruise or when you board so we would have to see if it would be worth it per drinks pricing and how much we drink per day :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Rob Posted August 1, 2014 #72 Share Posted August 1, 2014 With RCI going all inclusive P&O will have to respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top golfer Posted August 1, 2014 #73 Share Posted August 1, 2014 anyone get the feeling when this all inclusive starts there will be a lot less waiters running around the theatre :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishyWashyWindjammer Posted September 13, 2014 #74 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) David Owl "I'm on Britannia in July 15 so hope it's on there." Just about to book Britannia July 15 - if you find out can you post? WishyWashy Edited September 13, 2014 by WishyWashyWindjammer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WishyWashyWindjammer Posted September 13, 2014 #75 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Hi - sorry to bombard you but we've not booked with P&O before only RC and Carnival and Thomson. What's the secret to getting £1000 OBC? WishyWashy :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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