FuturzMinion Posted April 7, 2015 #276 Share Posted April 7, 2015 We have had enough of throwback Thursday's what we need now is one quick turn-ahead Thursday! I agree Captain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuturzMinion Posted April 7, 2015 #277 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Let me tell you a little secret. I have always wanted the Carnival Fantasy to come to Tampa. I've been secretly hoping and hoping the Paradise and Fantasy would trade. Love the Fantasy's interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Carnival Posted April 7, 2015 #278 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Let me tell you a little secret. I have always wanted the Carnival Fantasy to come to Tampa. I've been secretly hoping and hoping the Paradise and Fantasy would trade. Love the Fantasy's interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisexlife Posted April 8, 2015 Author #279 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I'm watching you! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattcj89 Posted April 8, 2015 #280 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I don't think anything from the east coast will be going west. Maybe an Aussie ship might go to Cali. Don't expect a reposition around South America though. Why does this keep coming up?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexv500 Posted April 8, 2015 #281 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I don't think anything from the east coast will be going west. Maybe an Aussie ship might go to Cali. Don't expect a reposition around South America though. Why does this keep coming up?! Because it could happen. You never know with Carnival. The west coast departures have been quite popular now, especially the 7 day Mexican riviera. A spirit class ship is highly needed in Tampa, so most likely Miracle might be heading to Tampa for 7 day western caribbean sailings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattcj89 Posted April 8, 2015 #282 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Because it could happen. You never know with Carnival. The west coast departures have been quite popular now, especially the 7 day Mexican riviera. A spirit class ship is highly needed in Tampa, so most likely Miracle might be heading to Tampa for 7 day western caribbean sailings. I get that, but I think a Spirit class from Aussie replacing a Spirit class in Cali is more likely than letting another Spirit class be replaced by something larger from the east coast to allow Tampa to have another ship. If Miracle is replaced, it won't be replaced by a larger ship. I might be wrong, but I highly doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexv500 Posted April 8, 2015 #283 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I get that, but I think a Spirit class from Aussie replacing a Spirit class in Cali is more likely than letting another Spirit class be replaced by something larger from the east coast to allow Tampa to have another ship. If Miracle is replaced, it won't be replaced by a larger ship. I might be wrong, but I highly doubt it. We'll see what happens. Fingers crossed something interesting happens. Still wouldn't mind an Aussie spirit class ship, at least those have Waterworks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmgonnagetcha Posted April 8, 2015 #284 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Because it could happen. You never know with Carnival. The west coast departures have been quite popular now, especially the 7 day Mexican riviera. A spirit class ship is highly needed in Tampa, so most likely Miracle might be heading to Tampa for 7 day western caribbean sailings. Let's take a moment to analyze this. For each segment of the 49 day transit from California to New York, fares reached $749, $949 and $899. For somebody staying onboard for the full transit, the cruise fare could have been as low as $2,597, or $371 per week averaged. As we know longer cruises typically attract passengers who are more traveled and considerably older than your typical Carnival guest, we know this will skew the onboard spend. We know that the cruise fare is used as an attempt to cover the overhead and onboard spend contributes to the profit. On a two week or longer transocean voyage, the ship is comprised by at least 75% Platinum and Diamond passengers who have already purchased the worthless merchandise from the Fun Shops. These passengers typically know how to get the best rate by manipulating fare codes. These passengers withdraw their onboard credit on a $1:$1 basis from the casino instead of spending $100obc costing Carnival $15. These passengers are older. The average age on a transocean voyage can be in the 70s on Carnival; albeit transatlantic voyages are starting to garner more attention and the duration has been shortened to 13 days from 15-18. Passengers who are between the ages of 70 and 95 will not be purchasing Cheers, nor will they be drinking heavily. The most revenue Carnival can receive from onboard spend from these passengers will come from the slot machines, which in turn would earn them free drinks after a set number of points for the remainder of the voyage. Ask yourself. Is Carnival really earning a profit on these cruises or are they simply sailing at the break-even point, if not at a loss? While some did the full transit around the horn, the revenue and occupancy levels are nowhere near what could have been earned from seven consecutive one week cruises. Then we have the fact that cruises from the west coast are being given away for free and nearly free, so how is it not too costly for them to bring a bigger ship to the west coast before the expansion in the Panama Canal is completed? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuturzMinion Posted April 8, 2015 #285 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I would definitely take one of those longer voyages in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjiRodney Posted April 8, 2015 #286 Share Posted April 8, 2015 San Juan only has a ship through Oct 2016. It needs something other than a Fantasy Class ship. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexv500 Posted April 8, 2015 #287 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Let's take a moment to analyze this. For each segment of the 49 day transit from California to New York, fares reached $749, $949 and $899. For somebody staying onboard for the full transit, the cruise fare could have been as low as $2,597, or $371 per week averaged.[/color As we know longer cruises typically attract passengers who are more traveled and considerably older than your typical Carnival guest, we know this will skew the onboard spend. We know that the cruise fare is used as an attempt to cover the overhead and onboard spend contributes to the profit. On a two week or longer transocean voyage, the ship is comprised by at least 75% Platinum and Diamond passengers who have already purchased the worthless merchandise from the Fun Shops. These passengers typically know how to get the best rate by manipulating fare codes. These passengers withdraw their onboard credit on a $1:$1 basis from the casino instead of spending $100obc costing Carnival $15. These passengers are older. The average age on a transocean voyage can be in the 70s on Carnival; albeit transatlantic voyages are starting to garner more attention and the duration has been shortened to 13 days from 15-18. Passengers who are between the ages of 70 and 95 will not be purchasing Cheers, nor will they be drinking heavily. The most revenue Carnival can receive from onboard spend from these passengers will come from the slot machines, which in turn would earn them free drinks after a set number of points for the remainder of the voyage. Ask yourself. Is Carnival really earning a profit on these cruises or are they simply sailing at the break-even point, if not at a loss? While some did the full transit around the horn, the revenue and occupancy levels are nowhere near what could have been earned from seven consecutive one week cruises. Then we have the fact that cruises from the west coast are being given away for free and nearly free, so how is it not too costly for them to bring a bigger ship to the west coast before the expansion in the Panama Canal is completed? Thank you. Thank you for your logistical and revenue breakdown of a South American Voyage. Edited April 8, 2015 by Alexv500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasong38501 Posted April 8, 2015 #288 Share Posted April 8, 2015 But I thought I read the Panama Canal expansion would be done in 2016 though. Making all the discussions about a trip around South America a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Carnival Posted April 8, 2015 #289 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I heard something today that might narrow down the list of possible Spirit Class ships coming to Tampa that being either Miracle or Legend -plus- an exchange of another Fantasy clsss ship. Nothing "confirmed" mind you but very plausible. I guess we'll all see sometime tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandatsea Posted April 8, 2015 #290 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I heard something today that might narrow down the list of possible Spirit Class ships coming to Tampa that being either Miracle or Legend -plus- an exchange of another Fantasy clsss ship. Nothing "confirmed" mind you but very plausible. I guess we'll all see sometime tomorrow! Sounds good..............the story continues tomorrow ;) !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pirate4me2 Posted April 8, 2015 #291 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Bring the Legend back! I want to sail on her, just not in Oz. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Carnival Posted April 8, 2015 #292 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Wake Up John it's 12:28 AM - THURSDAY in London!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccruisequeen Posted April 8, 2015 #293 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Wake Up John it's 12:28 AM - THURSDAY in London!! :D Unfortunately it's only 7:47 pm in Florida, so the offices will probably be closing for the next 12 hours or so. Sent from my KFSOWI using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Carnival Posted April 9, 2015 #294 Share Posted April 9, 2015 ...Unfortunately it's only 7:47 pm in Florida, so the offices will probably be closing for the next 12 hours or so... Curses - foiled again! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaceySteveDMB Posted April 9, 2015 #295 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I would love to get the Legend back and then a fantasy class with balconies and waterworks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Carnival Posted April 9, 2015 #296 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I would love to get the Legend back and then a fantasy class with balconies and waterworks! Wait For It!!! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuturzMinion Posted April 9, 2015 #297 Share Posted April 9, 2015 Wait For It!!! ;) So Captain, you already have a good idea what new, or TWO new ships will be home porting at Tampa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Carnival Posted April 9, 2015 #298 Share Posted April 9, 2015 So Captain, you already have a good idea what new, or TWO new ships will be home porting at Tampa? A very basic idea but I have been assured that we will be very happy tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETinCA Posted April 9, 2015 #299 Share Posted April 9, 2015 the Inspiration leaving Long Beach? That would be bad unless we are getting a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kybluecruiser Posted April 9, 2015 #300 Share Posted April 9, 2015 I would be shocked if they don't send another ship to charleston even if another fantasy class ship. The fantasy has been home ported there for 5 years now. If i am not mistaken that is the longest in the current fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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