serenity deck

[rfholcom]

After reading the reviews and realizing that the serenity deck is often full, I have told them it is not an option. i let them know that the adult only pool was available and since we have booked spa rooms, they have other places they can go to read and find quiet if they want to.

[eponym]

The kids are 20 just short of 21 and dont see the big deal about this at all.

 

Well, then have them drink up too.

[rtap23]

Well, then have them drink up too.

 

Well they can once they get to most ports.

[mickide]

I seriously hope that person was led off at the next port, at least stripped of ability to drink alcohol for the rest of the cruise.

 

On an all inclusive many years ago, a drunk 20 year old threw a lighted tiki torch into a gorgeous pool. The fluids leaked all into the pool, and it had to be closed for draining, cleaning and refilled. The resort had the cops charge the customer with either mayhem, or destruction of property - I can't recall the specifics. He was returned to the U.S. I don't know if the resort also charged the customer's account with fees associated with destruction/clean up, but I would have agreed.

 

No she wasn't let off nor was her card flagged for no alcohol. She was obnoxious and rude the entire cruise and always in the Serenity area with her large group.

And honestly, she didn't bat an eye about the pool being closed because of her. We weren't happy cruisers that day :(.

[eponym]

Well they can once they get to most ports.

 

What the heck let's just round that up to all ports, including U.S.

[love my grandkids]

Well, then have them drink up too.

 

Kids under 21 are generally not equipped to handle alcohol very well so my kids had to wait till they were 21 and must say they are both very responsible drinkers.

[Out to sea!]

Pretty sure 20 year olds are adults in every respect, save for the ability to drink alcohol, and are past the age of needing to be taught by their parents.

 

OP: If they can past for a whopping 12 months older than they actually are and behave respectfully I am sure they will be just fine. I would tolerate them far more than the drunk 60-somethings being loud and obnoxious at Serenity last year on Fantasy.

 

They may be past the need to learn from their parents but they are still learning nonetheless. My 20 year old son learns something new every day about being an adult versus a kid.

[Out to sea!]

Actually, it was not asked for them to hang out with me. They wanted to know as they like the idea of a quiet place to read and relax. I am sure they will participate in the waterslides, etc but they also loved the idea of a quiet place. They were planning on being respectful while they were there and allow others to also enjoy the peace and quiet. I am not encouraging them to break the law and they will not be drinking. I was checking to see if this was something that Carnival does enforce.

 

If they wish to be respectful, let them be respectful of the rules they have agreed to abide by.

[Out to sea!]

The kids are 20 just short of 21 and dont see the big deal about this at all.

 

And that's all fine and dandy in your home. This is Carnival's home and one should respect their rules while in their home just as you would expect one to respect the rules in your home.

[Out to sea!]

Carnival Policy is not a law or something that will affect the safety of others.

 

Therefore reserve the right to think for myself. Sorry if you disagree but also not a sheep either.

 

So in other words you'll break any rule that you don't like. Got it. :rolleyes:

[Retired_to_Cruise]

Actually, it was not asked for them to hang out with me. They wanted to know as they like the idea of a quiet place to read and relax. I am sure they will participate in the waterslides, etc but they also loved the idea of a quiet place. They were planning on being respectful while they were there and allow others to also enjoy the peace and quiet. I am not encouraging them to break the law and they will not be drinking. I was checking to see if this was something that Carnival does enforce.

 

There are plenty of other quiet places to sit and read on every ship. Some time ago there were questions from people who had their 20 year old son who was a Marine who was going to be on the ship with them. They wanted to know if it would be okay to take him to the Serenity Deck. There were also questions about 19 year old people attending the club that is restricted for up to 18 year olds. Once you break the barriers for any of these cases, you eliminate any idea that areas of the ship should be restricted. Would it be okay for one smoker to smoke on his/her balcony or sit in a non-smoking area? Would it be okay if a 20 year old has a drink with his mother and father in the Steakhouse or the Casino? Would it be okay for a 16 year old to attend Camp Carnival? Would it be acceptable for a 17 year old to attend an adult LGBT gathering on the ship? Would it be acceptable for a 17 year to attend a Friends of Tom meeting? Where does it stop when you let people break the rules? Would it be acceptable for one person to decide if it was all right to swim nude in the Lido pool? What if every set of parents on every single ship decided that it would be okay to take their 20 year old children to the Serenity Deck every single day?

Edited May 5, 2015 by Retired_to_Cruise

[love my grandkids]

And that's all fine and dandy in your home. This is Carnival's home and one should respect their rules while in their home just as you would expect one to respect the rules in your home.

 

Sorry not quite the same thing.

[Out to sea!]

Sorry not quite the same thing.

 

Of course not in your eyes. In reality, it's exactly the same thing. You have your set of rules and you expect people to abide by them and Carnival has it's set of rules (which you voluntarily agreed to abide by). Exactly the same thing.

[stargate fan]

Carnival Policy is not a law or something that will affect the safety of others.

 

Therefore reserve the right to think for myself. Sorry if you disagree but also not a sheep either.

 

Do you therefore feel it is ok to save seats for others at the shows or the Punchliner, even though this is against Carnival policy? How about placing items on deck chairs and not using them for hours?

 

Again, why should underage people use loungers in Serenity if they prevent adults over 21 from enjoying them?

[stargate fan]

And that's all fine and dandy in your home. This is Carnival's home and one should respect their rules while in their home just as you would expect one to respect the rules in your home.

 

Sorry not quite the same thing.

 

How is this not the same thing? Carnival is our "host" while we sail on one of ships. We are her "guests." We agree to abide by her policies.

[JLee1973]

I seriously hope that person was led off at the next port, at least stripped of ability to drink alcohol for the rest of the cruise.

 

On an all inclusive many years ago, a drunk 20 year old threw a lighted tiki torch into a gorgeous pool. The fluids leaked all into the pool, and it had to be closed for draining, cleaning and refilled. The resort had the cops charge the customer with either mayhem, or destruction of property - I can't recall the specifics. He was returned to the U.S. I don't know if the resort also charged the customer's account with fees associated with destruction/clean up, but I would have agreed.

Nope she was there every day being loud and proud to be from Boston. Even wore her butt floss bikini everyday. I nicknamed her "bottom biscuits" for the remainder of the cruise. She had no clue what serenity was about.

[Rottweiler Puppy]

How strict is Carnival about enforcing the 21 age limit for the Serenity Deck?

 

From what I have seen? Not very.

 

It didn't get out of hand though.

Edited May 6, 2015 by Rottweiler Puppy

[SirGoose29445]

After reading the reviews and realizing that the serenity deck is often full, I have told them it is not an option. i let them know that the adult only pool was available and since we have booked spa rooms, they have other places they can go to read and find quiet if they want to.

 

I know it is always my intention to bring a book and have a lot of R&R, but that rarely happens. I may read 100 pages. They may change their minds once on board about the R&R and decide to have a bit more fun than planned.

[RickinNYC]

So many of these posts just amuse the heck out of me.

 

To the OP, the rules are 21 and over. Pretty simple to follow, but then again, they don't enforce them much from the two Carnival cruises I'd been on. The first time, we saw an entire family with little kids in the Serenity area. They were never asked to leave. The second time, we were lounging near the entrance and saw a little boy of about 10 try to get in. He was stopped, but he simply said he had to talk to his mother. They let him in, he took a seat on his mother's lounger and never left. He was never asked to leave either.

 

I seriously doubt two 20 year olds will be asked to leave. The only issue you might experience are a few fellow cruisers (much like a few on this thread), that will get huffy and give you/them stink eye.

[Bobblefrog]

First, let me mention my response is from an enlisted Vietnam veteran. To my knowledge, there is no draft any longer and hasn't been for a while. Draft orders were terminated in 1973 - 22 years before the passenger in question was even born. The 20-year olds in question are NOT veterans and are NOT in danger of being pressed into the military. Maybe your point is appropriate for drinking age as it applies to underage active military, but it certainly doesn't apply here. As a matter of fact, it diminishes the importance of those who are serving or who have served. My military service was a choice; I never expected it to open doors to any other restrictions in life. Should a twenty-year old be granted senior discounts in stores just because he or she is old enough to have been drafted up until 42 years ago.?

 

And as a veteran of a foreign war well over the age of 21, I don't wan't any additional unauthorized use of chairs already difficult to find.

 

Ah, I didn't express myself clearly! You are correct of course the draft hasn't been exercised in 42 years.

 

However, at 18 "men" (are they men or boys or children?) are required to register for selective service (ie conscription). The draft can be reinstated and at any time. It's there for that reason.

 

I have young nieces and nephews that have served, by their choice, and I have just always found it ridiculous that they can be cannon fodder at 18 but not "responsible enough to handle their liquor" til 21. I'd rather see the selective service registration moved up to 21 and enlistment rules at the same, but I am not Queen (even for a day, darn).

 

That's my beef - that "serenity" seem to mean nothing to some adults that are there, but I don't see anyone kicking them out because they ruin the experience. So these rules? Schmules. It's just an arbitrary line that isn't doing a darn thing to keep Serenity serene.

 

Just call me Chez! :D

Edited May 6, 2015 by Bobblefrog

[sanmarcosman]

Agree. I would not allow my under 21 children in Serenity. There is simply are not adequate seating to accommodate, particularly if people started to bring in their exceptions.

 

Good point, soon Serenity will look like a past guest loyalty party before the gold members were eliminated. ;)

[Bobblefrog]

Good point, soon Serenity will look like a past guest loyalty party before the gold members were eliminated. ;)

 

Ah but now we see - that is their evil plan - because they don't enforce their own rules, and it gets too crowded and people don't respect the serenity, then they'll give it to Gold, oh but wait, then take it away again - and wait, then add it to FTTF and then raise those costs. It is BRILLIANT!! Bwahhahaha