motleyfan Posted July 5, 2015 #101 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Other than the personal fact that I think it kills brain cells while watching it, it just isn't very logical for ships. There are no mascots, just a bunch of roided up wrestlers who certainly aren't going to make the rounds on cruise ships. I've heard people say the same thing about spongebob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted July 5, 2015 #102 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I certainly hope it ISN'T WWE. Violence (simulated or otherwise) + UBP + a confined area like a ship over the course of a week.....what could possibly go wrong. :p Wouldn't it be easier for NCL to create their own line of characters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyfan Posted July 5, 2015 #103 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I certainly hope it ISN'T WWE. Violence (simulated or otherwise) + UBP + a confined area like a ship over the course of a week.....what could possibly go wrong. :p Wouldn't it be easier for NCL to create their own line of characters? Possibly but they gotta find something that caters to all the age groups of kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion3 Posted July 5, 2015 #104 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Possibly but they gotta find something that caters to all the age groups of kids. Including those in their early thirties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyfan Posted July 5, 2015 #105 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Including those in their early thirties. What need was there to throw out an insult? I'm speaking on purely the kids clubs Which if I'm correct and goes up into 17 right? So they need to find something that caters to all age groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion3 Posted July 5, 2015 #106 Share Posted July 5, 2015 WWE is a stupid idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldflame Posted July 5, 2015 #107 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I've heard people say the same thing about spongebob Not judging the franchises on their merit and popularity here, at least I'm not. WWE IP makes very little sense from the theming and programming perspective. That sounds more for one of those once-a-year specialty cruises than for a year around theming. Much like it wouldn't make sense for any cruise line to have a Rock from the 60's year round or MTG or table-top games cruise theme all year even though those are wildly popular as well. For that type of static theme and entertainment, you need a family-friendly cartoon or movie-based IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinIllinois Posted July 5, 2015 #108 Share Posted July 5, 2015 not judging the franchises on their merit and popularity here, at least i'm not. Wwe ip makes very little sense from the theming and programming perspective. That sounds more for one of those once-a-year specialty cruises than for a year around theming. Much like it wouldn't make sense for any cruise line to have a rock from the 60's year round or mtg or table-top games cruise theme all year even though those are wildly popular as well. For that type of static theme and entertainment, you need a family-friendly cartoon or movie-based ip. ip = ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldflame Posted July 5, 2015 #109 Share Posted July 5, 2015 ip = ? intellectual property Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySpoilt Posted July 5, 2015 #110 Share Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) I wonder if they will even have an IP? Or if they will just "create" something of their own for their cruiseline. Yes, I agree a large percentage of people perhaps base a lot of their cruises on the various IPs out there, but a larger percentage I doubt even factor that into their decision which line to cruise. Besides the extra cost of licensing fees to use an IP, which I am sure DelRio or whatever his name is would be opposed to, remember he also wanted a more affluent customer base. I am not sure cartoon or TV characters would fall into the "more affluent" customer base he seems to be going after. Edited July 5, 2015 by LadySpoilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldflame Posted July 5, 2015 #111 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I wonder if they will even have an IP? Or if they will just "create" something of their own for their cruiseline. Yes, I agree a large percentage of people perhaps base a lot of their cruises on the various IPs out there, but a larger percentage I doubt even factor that into their decision which line to cruise. Besides the extra cost of licensing fees to use an IP, which I am sure DelRio or whatever his name is would be opposed to, remember he also wanted a more affluent customer base. I am not sure cartoon or TV characters would fall into the "more affluent" customer base he seems to be going after. A bit off topic, but yes I remember that statement from Del Rio. I find it rather odd, given NCL's success as mid-range, family-friendly cruise line. And even more odd given NCL already owns an upscale cruise line brand. He sounds like a CEO that has good intentions, but seems a bit impulsive in his decisions, statements and execution. Back on topic: creating your own IP is always an option, but it's also expensive and a lot of risk it won't be well received. It's one of those things that's "better to rent than it is to own", specially for a non-content creator like cruise lines are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cantthinkofanythingfun Posted July 5, 2015 #112 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I wonder if they will even have an IP? Or if they will just "create" something of their own for their cruiseline. Yes, I agree a large percentage of people perhaps base a lot of their cruises on the various IPs out there, but a larger percentage I doubt even factor that into their decision which line to cruise. Besides the extra cost of licensing fees to use an IP, which I am sure DelRio or whatever his name is would be opposed to, remember he also wanted a more affluent customer base. I am not sure cartoon or TV characters would fall into the "more affluent" customer base he seems to be going after. Carnival had "Funship Freddie", and that didn't go over so well with the kids. These characters do get kids excited. DCL has a ship full of them and they manage to sell out ships charging double what NCL does. NCL owns other lines that cater to the "affluent" cruiser. If they want to do away with kids and families for a more affluent crowd, then they are going to have some huge new ships with a lot of empty cabins. The affluent people I know aren't so excited about getting on a ship with 5,000 people, but they'll grin and bear a week in the Haven if their kids get to see some of their favorite cartoon characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySpoilt Posted July 5, 2015 #113 Share Posted July 5, 2015 A bit off topic, but yes I remember that statement from Del Rio. I find it rather odd, given NCL's success as mid-range, family-friendly cruise line. And even more odd given NCL already owns an upscale cruise line brand. He sounds like a CEO that has good intentions, but seems a bit impulsive in his decisions, statements and execution. Back on topic: creating your own IP is always an option, but it's also expensive and a lot of risk it won't be well received. It's one of those things that's "better to rent than it is to own", specially for a non-content creator like cruise lines are. You are right about the IP, I meant to say new theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaveyeldarb Posted July 5, 2015 #114 Share Posted July 5, 2015 A partnership with Hasbro would be pretty cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion3 Posted July 5, 2015 #115 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Carnival's Camp Ocean and previous Camp Carnival are quite successful independent branded kids clubs. I know they have Suess at Sea tie in with Dr. Suess, but that is really not a direct part of the club and is an extra IP add on and not the total sum of the kids area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legion3 Posted July 5, 2015 #116 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Carnival has the Hasbro game show on its ship's. My DD8 won the last game and got a $150 Hasbro gift card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinIllinois Posted July 5, 2015 #117 Share Posted July 5, 2015 intellectual property Ah, gotcha. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andriamay Posted July 5, 2015 #118 Share Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) Personally being a mom if a cruise line backed WWE or anything like that, we would not cruise with them. I think the fact that NCL is trying to cater more to families that have kids having a theme is a definite selling point, I know there are plenty of cruisers that it doesn't matter to but for us cruisers with little kids what is offered for the kids matters. So I hope they come up with something good, only time will tell. Edited July 5, 2015 by andriamay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted July 5, 2015 #119 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Just wondering. With all the bells and whistles on the new ships, does a cruise line really need to have an affiliation with a company to provide fun for the children. Isn't there enough to do, especially on the newer ships for children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyfan Posted July 5, 2015 #120 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Personally being a mom if a cruise line backed WWE or anything like that, we would not cruise with them. I think the fact that NCL is trying to cater more to families that have kids having a theme is a definite selling point, I know there are plenty of cruisers that it doesn't matter to but for us cruisers with little kids what is offered for the kids matters. So I hope they come up with something good, only time will tell. I would say they cater to young adults just as much as kids, after all the sky now has permanently unlimited alcohol. One of my favorite Cruise stories is I was talking to a cabana boy on my first cruise and I said to him wow all the food one person could eat that's awesome how do you people make your money he looked at me and nodded towards the bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacationdreamer<>< Posted July 5, 2015 #121 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Just wondering. With all the bells and whistles on the new ships, does a cruise line really need to have an affiliation with a company to provide fun for the children. Isn't there enough to do, especially on the newer ships for children? This! I have six kids - 2, 5, 9, 11, 13, 15. We are NOT a Nickelodeon family. (I find much of their product <shudder> a bit creepy.) I didn't hesitate to book the cruise even though I expected them on the ship. We're there for the ocean, the ports, the dining, the slides... Not the characters. I'm hopeful they come up with something fun. But even if they don't - we're still going. [emoji173] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andriamay Posted July 5, 2015 #122 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I would say they cater to young adults just as much as kids, after all the sky now has permanently unlimited alcohol. One of my favorite Cruise stories is I was talking to a cabana boy on my first cruise and I said to him wow all the food one person could eat that's awesome how do you people make your money he looked at me and nodded towards the bar Yes the entertainment is def more for adults, which is why I'd like something fun for the little ones. This will however be their first cruise so I know they'll have a blast :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andriamay Posted July 5, 2015 #123 Share Posted July 5, 2015 [quote=Vacationdreamer I feel the same way! We're not big nick fans, the water slides and splash area look great for kids and adults! I would however book a DCL if it wasn't 3x the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacationdreamer<>< Posted July 5, 2015 #124 Share Posted July 5, 2015 [quote name=Vacationdreamer I feel the same way! We're not big nick fans' date=' the water slides and splash area look great for kids and adults! I would however book a DCL if it wasn't 3x the price.[/quote] We did DCL last year and still talk about it every day. Hope to do again in 2017. (NCL 2016). I like that NCL has a lot to DO. I feel like DCL has a lot to see. (Shows, characters, movies.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vacationdreamer<>< Posted July 5, 2015 #125 Share Posted July 5, 2015 There is a TA Webinar next week so I bet she is hoping they say something then. It was moved a week back so maybe..... When is the Webinar, Jen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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