Casino table points

[nina_930]

Hi, I'm just curious about points when you play blackjack. From what I understand its 1 point for every $2.50 bet on the slots, so how are the points calculated at the tables? Thanks!

[hapytobehr]

Hi, I'm just curious about points when you play blackjack. From what I understand its 1 point for every $2.50 bet on the slots, so how are the points calculated at the tables? Thanks![/quote

 

They rate you based on your average bet and time played.

[easy1969]

it is based on the time you play and on how much money/chips you introduce to the tables.

when they scan your sail and sign card they enter the amount of cash or chips you use to buy in so a little trick to maximize your playerclub offers is to color up and change tables often it makes no difference if you use cash or chips yo buy in at the next table. but someone on here may disagree about the chips so you can go to the window and get them cashed in and use cash if you want but imo ita not necessary.

I play a lot of blackjack on cruises and get great offers and so far I have went on two free cruises that were casino offers by a lot of blackjack I mean I use 2-3k start money to buy in apx total of 12 k and win or lose 1-2k total playing about 3 hrs each day

[HawkIVette]

it is based on the time you play and on how much money/chips you introduce to the tables.......... but someone on here may disagree about the chips.

Ok, I will. I agree it is based on time you play, but it also is based on how much you bet. Nothing to do with how much you buy-in for.

 

Not sure of the exact formula, and although, they do record how much you buy in for, but it's more about the size of your bet as you play.

 

You make is sound like you buy-in big and then could play a couple of hands, cash out and get credit for the size of your buy-in. Not so. I often times see the dealers want to color up your chips for 2 reasons, (1) so they keep the small chips at thier table so they don't run out of chips so often, but (2) so they know how much you take away from the table, so they can track how much you actually risked, aka (Track you for your bets).

 

So, lets say you buy-in for 1,000 and play for 4 hrs, walk away with $1,000, you will still get credit for all that you risked during your play. Say you bet $25 a hand with 60 hands/ hr., so you risked $6000 ($25x 60 hands x 4 hrs) and will maybe get 1 to 4 ratio credit in points, so you got credit for 1500 points. Enough for the DOU card.

 

Other person does the same buy-in, loses his $1,000 but plays the same size bet, and same hours, he gets the same credit.

I am not sure of the formula, but that is an example of how it works.

[easy1969]

Ok, I will. I agree it is based on time you play, but it also is based on how much you bet. Nothing to do with how much you buy-in for.

 

Not sure of the exact formula, and although, they do record how much you buy in for, but it's more about the size of your bet as you play.

 

You make is sound like you buy-in big and then could play a couple of hands, cash out and get credit for the size of your buy-in. Not so. I often times see the dealers want to color up your chips for 2 reasons, (1) so they keep the small chips at thier table so they don't run out of chips so often, but (2) so they know how much you take away from the table, so they can track how much you actually risked, aka (Track you for your bets).

 

So, lets say you buy-in for 1,000 and play for 4 hrs, walk away with $1,000, you will still get credit for all that you risked during your play. Say you bet $25 a hand with 60 hands/ hr., so you risked $6000 ($25x 60 hands x 4 hrs) and will maybe get 1 to 4 ratio credit in points, so you got credit for 1500 points. Enough for the DOU card.

 

Other person does the same buy-in, loses his $1,000 but plays the same size bet, and same hours, he gets the same credit.

I am not sure of the formula, but that is an example of how it works.

 

You may be correct. But that is what I have been told by casino hosts

I know they log in your buy in and then they log it when you color up but how do they keep up with everyone's bets?

I typically buy in for $300 and rarely bet more than $10 I will play for about an hour then color up and go to another table or take a break an go back to same table where they scan sign and sail card and do the same again then repeat.

I get perks and offers as good as any I have heard of on here and spend very little money.

I hope I have not been doing all that table jumping for nothing lol.

[mamiamjo]

Out of all my cruises, I've never even used my sail n sign card when gambling. So, what do you do, just give them the card along with your buy in?

When you're done, how does it get entered onto your account?

[HawkIVette]

You may be correct. But that is what I have been told by casino hosts

I know they log in your buy in and then they log it when you color up but how do they keep up with everyone's bets?

I typically buy in for $300 and rarely bet more than $10 I will play for about an hour then color up and go to another table or take a break an go back to same table where they scan sign and sail card and do the same again then repeat.

I get perks and offers as good as any I have heard of on here and spend very little money.

I hope I have not been doing all that table jumping for nothing lol.

You are not jumping tables for nothing, but it would be the same if you just stayed at the same table.

The dealers are very good at watching what everyone is betting on an average. They just keep track of an average that you are betting, not every hand but an average.

 

I play craps, and the dealer at each end of the table, along with the pit boss, know on average how much you bet, your betting strategy ( whether you do progressive betting or not) and keep a close tab of how many chips you have. I have seen the pit boss make entries into the computer (which I asume is how he tracks your play). The rolls of the dice are recorded by a computer. Same with hands dealt at a BJ table. All this goes into the formula for how much you are betting over the time of your play.

 

Not saying that the table hopping is not good, but unecessary.

 

Of my 18 cruises on Carnival, 4 of them where Bounce Back offers (free cruises where you only pay taxes & port fees, must be booked with in 2 weeks and sail with in 3 months), 1 free cruise from the casino (last night drawing in the casino, lucky I guess) and 2 of them Premier Casino Cruises ( discounted price with great comps during the cruise- Free DOU card, free steakhouse dinners, cash prizes in the Casino, welcome aboard party for casino players).

I have 2 cruises booked, 1 being another Premier cruise.

Edited June 30, 2017 by HawkIVette

[HawkIVette]

Out of all my cruises, I've never even used my sail n sign card when gambling. So, what do you do, just give them the card along with your buy in?

When you're done, how does it get entered onto your account?

Usually, the dealers I see, ask for your S&S card. If they do, give it to them. They are only trying to track your play so you can get comps.

Otherwise, when I buy-in, I drop the cash along with my card and they sign me in.

[jakesnana]

The way they calculate points really is a mystery. I think some of the comps are at the discretion of the pit boss or casino manager. My DH and I went on a cruise in March of 2016 and played our usual BJ. DH's buy in was for $100 each time, sometimes purchasing more during the session. We always start with a minimum bet and play progressive. By the 5th night DH was given a DOU card and he got a BB offer on the last night. Since then we have been on 2 more cruises, both times playing BJ as much or more than the 3/16 cruise yet neither of us got a DOU card or BB offer. I'm not sure if DH got the perks because they liked him (we bet for the dealers pretty consistently) but I can't imagine we racked up enough points for either the DOU card or the BB offer.

[hapytobehr]

Ok, I will. I agree it is based on time you play, but it also is based on how much you bet. Nothing to do with how much you buy-in for.

 

Not sure of the exact formula, and although, they do record how much you buy in for, but it's more about the size of your bet as you play.

 

You make is sound like you buy-in big and then could play a couple of hands, cash out and get credit for the size of your buy-in. Not so. I often times see the dealers want to color up your chips for 2 reasons, (1) so they keep the small chips at thier table so they don't run out of chips so often, but (2) so they know how much you take away from the table, so they can track how much you actually risked, aka (Track you for your bets).

 

So, lets say you buy-in for 1,000 and play for 4 hrs, walk away with $1,000, you will still get credit for all that you risked during your play. Say you bet $25 a hand with 60 hands/ hr., so you risked $6000 ($25x 60 hands x 4 hrs) and will maybe get 1 to 4 ratio credit in points, so you got credit for 1500 points. Enough for the DOU card.

 

Other person does the same buy-in, loses his $1,000 but plays the same size bet, and same hours, he gets the same credit.

I am not sure of the formula, but that is an example of how it works.

 

Exactly.......

[katmike]

OK... from one that's not "casino" savvy.... why do they use points at all? Why not just use currency? At least I know in an instant how much I have.

[hard_eight]

You know how much money you have in chips...

 

The points are for rewards/comps.

[hapytobehr]

OK... from one that's not "casino" savvy.... why do they use points at all? Why not just use currency? At least I know in an instant how much I have.

 

You do use currency to buy in for chips at the tables or you can charge it to your S & S card for a 3% charge.

The "points" is the system they use to rate your play.

[nina_930]

Wow, this is a lot of great information. Thanks to everyone! I will definitely take all advise given and use it.

[HawkIVette]

OK... from one that's not "casino" savvy.... why do they use points at all? Why not just use currency? At least I know in an instant how much I have.

Yeah, so I don't confuse you any more. You play with chips that are bought with cash or charged to myour S&S card. That is your money.

 

The points we are talking about is completely different from your chips (money).

As you play, the dealers will track, or keep track of, your play with a system of points, depending on how much you bet and how long you play.

 

Those points add up over the cruise, and when you get so many (1500) you will be given a Drinks On Us (DOU) card. They attach it by a chain to your S&S card and as long as you are playing in the Casino, the drinks are on the house.

 

More points (7500) and the Casino Host has the opportunity to offer you a Bounce Back Offer (BB Offer, or Free Cruise). I say He/she has the opportunity because they are limited to only so many free offers per cruise and maybe a bigger play, nicer play, one who tips better, may get the offers instead of you. Not a guarentee, but a good chance.

 

Don't know for sure about how many points you need or just a nice Casino Host (I think this can be at their discretion, but the Host can also offer you free Steakhouse or Italian Reservations, free bottles of champange, wine, cookies, choc. covered strawberries and other goodies sent to your cabin or dinner table. So always give your S&S card to the dealers to get "tracked". It never hurts you, but can only get you an extra reward.

 

And one last thing. Points are NOT earned by how much you spend, but by how much you wager. In other words, Losing has nothing to do with it. I have lost for the week and also won for the week and still come out with a free cruise.

[oxymoron11]

I got this from a post in the casino forum of CC. I can't vouch for it but from my experience it is close to the formula for comps. The casino hosts have discretion to add to your benefits.

I also cannot verify this but it appears that some table games with higher odds may get you more points.

 

How points are calculated

 

Slots

Every $2.50 ran through machine = 1 point

Video Poker

Every $5 ran through machine = 1 point

Electronic Texas Holdem Tables

No points are earned

Table points are calculated as follows

Amount of bet x hours played

For example, to earn the 1500 required points for the DOU card it would take:

$15 per hand x 16 hours

$25 per hand x 8 hours

$50 per hand x 4 hours

$100 per hand x 2 hours

[oxymoron11]

I got this from a post in the casino forum of CC. I can't vouch for it but from my experience it is close to the formula for comps. The casino hosts have discretion to add to your benefits. I also cannot verify this but it appears that some table games with higher odds may get you more points.

 

 

How points are calculated

 

 

Slots Every $2.50 ran through machine = 1 point

 

Video Poker Every $5 ran through machine = 1 point

 

Electronic Texas Holdem Tables No points are earned

 

Table points are calculated as follows Amount of bet x hours played For example, to earn the 1500 required points for the DOU card it would take:

 

$15 per hand x 16 hours

 

$25 per hand x 8 hours

 

$50 per hand x 4 hours

 

$100 per hand x 2 hours

[Lisakel]

What kind of comps can you earn?

 

 

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[oxymoron11]

What kind of comps can you earn?

 

Here are some perks:

 

Free cocktails and drinks while playing in the casino

Free meals in specialty restaurants

Spa credits

Free and discounted cruises

Invites to Premier cruises

[HawkIVette]

What kind of comps can you earn?

 

 

Should have read my post above. Here is the shortened version.

 

 

Those points add up over the cruise, and when you get so many (1500) you will be given a Drinks On Us (DOU) card. They attach it by a chain to your S&S card and as long as you are playing in the Casino, the drinks are on the house.

 

More points (7500) and the Casino Host has the opportunity to offer you a Bounce Back Offer (BB Offer, or Free Cruise). I say He/she has the opportunity because they are limited to only so many free offers per cruise and maybe a bigger player, nicer player, one who tips better, may get the offers instead of you. Not a guarentee, but a good chance.

 

Don't know for sure about how many points you need or just a nice Casino Host (I think this can be at their discretion, but the Host can also offer you free Steakhouse or Italian Reservations, free bottles of champange, wine, cookies, choc. covered strawberries and other goodies sent to your cabin or dinner table.