Cruising89143 Posted January 19, 2006 #26 Share Posted January 19, 2006 How many people report their husband, on their honeymoon, not returning to the cabin at night, before an incident like this? Not many! No wonder the family is distancing themselves from Jennifer. Her story has too many holes and makes her husband look like less than the perfect honeymooner. She isn't even emotional except where what she can get is concerned. :rolleyes: Be careful Deb. You are not supposed to give you opinion on this thread as to what happened. :rolleyes: You will get chastised!!!!!;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilionite65 Posted January 19, 2006 #27 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Based on the interview today, the cruise line did wash off the blood after being told twice by the Turkish authorities that they were cleared to. What they did not do, that was reported as having been done, was paint over the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprcorn28 Posted January 19, 2006 #28 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Reminds me too much of OJ! Complete BS!!! What was BS with OJ is that he got off.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunCruiser56 Posted January 19, 2006 #29 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Go to the RCI board look for the thread Royal Caribbean fights back, there is a statement that RCI issued last week with their side of how the events all played out and a couple of hundred posts after that with lots of speculation and comments about the other reports that have been on TV recently. All much more interesting than the Oprah interview.. Funcruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted January 19, 2006 #30 Share Posted January 19, 2006 What was BS with OJ is that he got off.... Amen!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregD Posted January 19, 2006 #31 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I just finished watching Scarborough Country. I recomend watching this show when they talk about this. He always has Michale Karye (sp?), a Lawer for RCCL. He seems to be the only one with sense in his head. The other lawyers on the show have no idea about the cruise industry. This show lets people explain both sides of the argument and Scarborough doesn't express his opinion at all unlike other host's. Just my opinion, -Greg Im off to the RCCL threads to see what there saying over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoinCruisin Posted January 19, 2006 #32 Share Posted January 19, 2006 As far as her statement that she recieved a bill from RCCL shortly after returning home goes...... She may have received the statement of her sea-pass card, but she didn't recieve a bill! RCCL, like all cruise lines, has their pax. set up either a cash account or a credit card account prior to the start of the cruise. When you leave the ship your bill has already been paid by one of those two accounts. I didn't like the fact that she led people to believe that she was being billed at that time! Yeah, that bothered me too... she likely got a copy of her statement, or her credit card statement, but not a bill. She really made herself look bad in this interview. I have sympathy, and I really don't think SHE killed her husband, I just think there is something we don't know... she seemed to really want to belittle the Pres, by trying to make him apologize, after he stated his position and the situation over and over again... i am glad he held his ground... although I don't think I could have held my compsure like he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprcorn28 Posted January 19, 2006 #33 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Based on the interview today, the cruise line did wash off the blood after being told twice by the Turkish authorities that they were cleared to. What they did not do, that was reported as having been done, was paint over the area. I think you are right, with that clarification of "being cleared by Turkish officials" etc! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoinCruisin Posted January 19, 2006 #34 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Go to the RCI board look for the thread Royal Caribbean fights back, there is a statement that RCI issued last week with their side of how the events all played out and a couple of hundred posts after that with lots of speculation and comments about the other reports that have been on TV recently. All much more interesting than the Oprah interview.. Funcruiser LOL, but we had that thread last week, that was posted here... and we all put our 2 cents in, so this is just something new to discuss :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hstrybuf Posted January 19, 2006 #35 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Be careful Deb. You are not supposed to give you opinion on this thread as to what happened. :rolleyes: You will get chastised!!!!!;) Now Gordon, you know where that will get them don't you? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted January 19, 2006 #36 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Now Gordon, you know where that will get them don't you? :D :) :D Sure do!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KruznKel Posted January 19, 2006 #37 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Now Gordon, you know where that will get them don't you? :D Why don't you tell us wise one???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcruzin Posted January 19, 2006 #38 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Awwww the Kelly sweetie works.. LOL... Nothing is to HARD for me to do thanks for inquiring..:D Gee, this is much better than the Oprah interview.......wonder if she has a list of references? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KruznKel Posted January 19, 2006 #39 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Gee, this is much better than the Oprah interview.......wonder if she has a list of references? Can't help ya there sorry.... Check with Rosie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hstrybuf Posted January 19, 2006 #40 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Why don't you tell us wise one???? Huh? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcruzin Posted January 19, 2006 #41 Share Posted January 19, 2006 [quote name='irishnewfie']Can't help ya there sorry.... Check with Rosie[/quote] Kelly (I can spell it)....your quick wit and remarkably well thought out responses are amazing. When you alude to the possibility that you are the Linda Lovelace of the cruise boards, you really should anticipate the results. Evidently some parts of your anatomy can take it more than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeptunesGoddess Posted January 19, 2006 #42 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Well, I guess I am in the minority here in thinking that the wife could be telling the truth. Other things don't add up either. To me, if you were extremely drunk to pass out at the other end of the ship (from your stateroom) and had to be taken back to your room...waking up a few hours later...well, if it was just alcohol that put you in that much of a stupor, you would have an unbelievable hangover. However, there are several drugs out there that would not give you ill-effects later on (as already stated in this thread). If you were hiding something, why would you hire one of the best forensic investigators with your own money to try and figure out what happened that night? Seems to me, you would "pull an OJ" and not do anything if you were guilty of hiding something...or maybe just hire a "joe schmoe" type of investigator. Thirdly, I know it seems hard to believe that honeymooners would let each other out of their sight on their honeymoon, but this couple was very comfortable with each other and, although technically honeymooners, they had been living together for over a year (and had dated for 3 years). She said that she woke up and realized she had a spa appointment...they BOTH did. I don't find it too hard to swallow that, since george wasn't in the room, she might have assumed he ran and got some coffee and went to the appointment. She probably figured that would be where she would find him, so she went. When he wasn't there, she continued with the treatment thinking he would show up? I mean, honestly, I don't see holes in that. I just tried to put myself in her position and if I woke up and hubby was gone, I would assume he was off getting breakfast, having a run..or doing a myriad of other things available to do on a cruise...and then meet me at the appointment we both had in the spa. I know I will probably get "jumped" on, but that is just my opinion. On the flip side, I also dont' think RCCL is covering anything up. Perhaps things weren't preserved up to U.S. standards for the F.B.I., but they weren't in the U.S. nor is the ship flagged in the U.S. They were told they could clean the blood once, and they didn't do it..it was only after the second time they were told, they did clean it. So, they preserved it even after they were told the first time to clean it off. It is unfortunate that some questions could probably be answered if if still existed, but I don't think it is RCCL's fault that happened. The whole incident is very sad and no one will probably ever know what really happened. I hear the stateroom is still "sealed". I can only imagine what will happen when they open it back up to be occupied by guests again. I predict stories of hauntings and a whole new hype that will take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halos Posted January 19, 2006 #43 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Neptune, you're right...it all could be true. But i just don't f e e l it, you know what I mean??? She just comes off like she's lying. Maybe she isn't, but I tell you that she is damaging herself quite a bit by popping up all over the TV because she is NOT believable...... I still would have liked to hear from the other witnesses who saw them acting quite differently that the witness couple on Oprah stated. In my eyes, that interview was one sided as well as horribly done. And also, if you have NEVER been so drunk (or drugged) that you 'lose time'...and then one morning, wake up not recalling the night before, wouldn't you be a little freaked out?? She's either lying about having no memory OR she was such a party animal that this happened often enough that loss of memory didn't bother her. Waking up calmly with NO husband and NO memory is just too hard to swallow for me. There was no theft reported and she doesn't seem to have been harmed..so what was the motive for murder????? I just see too many holes. Someone must know something. If I were to speculate, I'd say they were both totally wasted, got into a fight (a big one)...she went off with another guy (as has been reported) and he, being totally inebriated, made a bad decision and either jumped or fell. no foul play, just bad judgment all around. And her 'lack of memory' comes from total embarrassment AND guilt feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macwoman Posted January 19, 2006 #44 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I didn't watch it.......wish I had. But I have a hard time with the wife. If I just lost my hubby I would still be hysterical.........not on TV talk shows. I think there is something missing here we don't know about. No one is going to side with the cruise lines, because of their financial position. We all know people can drink WAY TOO much sometimes.......and who knows what part that did or did not play into this. Macwoman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catnip Posted January 19, 2006 #45 Share Posted January 19, 2006 [quote name='DqALEX']Something just doesn't seem right about her story. Just married, waking up no husband all night then going to the spa? I went on a cruise for my honey moon to. Let me tell you my wife diden't let me out of her sight all week. I told her I was going to the room she was up on deck I went to the casino for 25cent roulette, I turned around and she was standing there. She said this looks like a nice room . Im sorry I don;t buy any of this. I know the ship is big but come on. Have any of you lost you wife or husband all night and than went to the spa???????[/quote] [SIZE=4][B]I agree!!!!!! [/B] Sounds very fishy.........[/SIZE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catnip Posted January 19, 2006 #46 Share Posted January 19, 2006 [quote name='caprcorn28']What was BS with OJ is that he got off....[/quote] How right you are!!!!!!!!! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdoxies Posted January 19, 2006 #47 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Watched Oprah and have been following this story on the RCI board. Grieving widow? I dont think so- her responses seemed coached to me. I dont think she was drugged either--how could she have gone from being passed out at 430 am to bright eyed and bushy tailed at 8 or 830 am at the spa. If they were drinking absinthe, that is a very strong liquor, not even sold in the US--I'm not sure she could have even awakened so early if she had been drinking that. I dont think however she is responsible for her husband's death. I thik they were a couple of swingers and it came back to bite them you know where. I also think Mr Goldstein from RCI seemed very sincere and empathetic. Jennifer kept wanting him to say sorry-Sorry for what? RCI cant control the stupidity of their guests. That said--no balconies for me on our Apr cruise after a night of drinking--I'm clumsy enough sober. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdoxies Posted January 19, 2006 #48 Share Posted January 19, 2006 ALso thought that Gay;e on Oprah did a terrible job--no hard questions were aked, and mea culpa at the end? Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umbarger Posted January 19, 2006 #49 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I have never seen such a selfish, self-centered woman in my life. She made herself look so bad. It was a 'poor little me' interview. She just talked about how terrible she was treated by RCI. Like she was the victim. Someone should tell her.......her husband George was the victim. She kept saying she wanted RCI be take responsibility. Excuse me but she needs to take responsibility for her own actions. Someone should tell her that RCI doesn't baby sit adults. She is just trying to blame everyone and anyone except herself. But again she is a very self-centered woman and thinks the world revolves around her. No wonder the in-laws and her are estranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynrph Posted January 19, 2006 #50 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Another side of the story, [URL="http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=274905"]http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=274905[/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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